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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 26, 2009, 01:40:58 PM »
Here's one from a quaint little toilet in my hometown, back in '92-ish. Oh, how the mighty have fallen...

Wow. that's depressing.  I was big into Foghat...I still think Tony Stevens was a great bassist.
I may be alone in that thought, but what else is new.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 26, 2009, 01:01:38 PM »

And I look forward to seeing Uriah Heep who once sold out 3.000-5.000 seaters in Germany no sweat (circa mid-seventies) in an intimate 300 people capacity club in December.


Just to be clear...you're seeing Mick Box from Uriah Heep.  If the original members of Heep were still with us, 300 seaters wouldn't be happening.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 26, 2009, 04:44:55 AM »
I feel ashamed and responsible for starting a thread about such an awful topic.
I should be banned, but I ask for forgiveness.
It's dawned on me that I'm still going to have to learn/play some of their basslines for my son.
Certainly, the punishment does not fit the crime.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 25, 2009, 03:06:52 PM »
Hugh has been recording with them since the beginning. As previously mentioned, when Alec's stage performance became a liability, he was unceremoniously dumped and replaced with - guess who? So you asks yourself, why wasn't Mr McDonald in the band to begin with? NJ scuttlebutt has it that while JBJ was thrilled with his playing, his image wasn't right (hair not pouffy enough). What I find odd is that Alec's image was acceptable. I used to see him playing in the clubs back in the late 70s early 80s, with a band called Phantom's Opera and never thought of him as anything special. You probably won't either...

I made it to :35 - what do I win?

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 25, 2009, 03:03:07 PM »
Thanks for the replies - and now that it's been mentioned here, I remember all of the available band members kind of drone on and on about how this band was a corporation...

Yeah, this is a fairly unappealing band.  As I said earlier in the thread, I like these documentaries - they kind solidify some of the reasons I dislike of lot of bands.  Thanks for clearing up the mystery - I hate the fact that I was even thinking about Bon Jovi's musicians.

OK, not to start a war, but you can't compare JBJ to Bruce Springsteen.  Even as reprehensible as Springsteen's music has become, the only thing in common is NJ.  Bruce's stuff prior to Born in the USA was deep-rooted and honest, and the E-St. Band was never a hair band.  Garry Tallent is also a bassist that I like listening to.

Thanks again.
Steve

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The Outpost Cafe / Bon Jovi's bassist
« on: October 25, 2009, 12:20:20 PM »
I have a confession: I'm 48 years old, originally from Jersey, and I've never owned a Bon Jovi song until this past Friday. 
They're not bad, just not my cup.

My 11 year old son (a drummer) and some friends have started a band, and they've chosen a few Bon Jovi songs to learn together...just to see what they've got.  Ironically enough, there was a documentary on those guys on last night. I think I missed the first 10-15 minutes, but I swear I watched over an hour or so (at least it seemed like over an hour)...no mention of a bass player.  Even the live shots, you got the drummer, keys, guitarist, vocalist...no bassist in any shots. I read on Wiki that the original bassist Alec John Such left the band in 1994 and he was replaced by Hugh McDonald.

I was interested in checking out the bassist because I'm going to have to learn some of their tunes to help my son practice at home.  I mean, the songs seem simple enough, but I just found it weird that in an entire documentary about a band (I almost wrote Hair Band, but didn't) there is no mention of a bassist.

I like these documentaries - even about bands I don't like much; Metallica, Motley Crue, etc...I find them real interesting and the ones that are done well give you a little more insight into the personalities within the bands.  The Metallica documentaries are insane.

Anyway, just curious about the absence of any mention, if anyone has a clue.

Thanks,
Steve


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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Manly men play manly music
« on: October 25, 2009, 06:52:26 AM »
Been a huge Clutch fan for years...their sound has changed a bit over the years (which is great), and they've always delivered. If you have a chance to see them live, do it - intense show. Their drummer, JP Gaster, is amazing and has a groove that won't quit. Dan Maines (bassist) has the best job in music.

Their past two albums (Beale Street and Strange Cousins) are mainly blues-based rock, and their earlier stuff (Transnational, Clutch, Elephant Riders, Pitchfork) was really intense.  The stuff in-between (Slow Hole to China, Robot Hive, Pure Rock Fury, Blast Tyrant, Jam Room,  etc.) is just some of the greatest music you've never heard.  Get the lyrics sheet, and an encyclopedia - Neil Fallon writes some killer stuff.

Good clean fun.  enjoy.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: How to Kiss a Woman
« on: September 29, 2009, 07:49:41 AM »
It would have been great if she had reached around and unsnapped that bra he's wearing...

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Great Drummers!!
« on: August 03, 2009, 10:08:52 AM »
Two of my favorites: 
1. Jean-Paul Gaster of Clutch - It's difficult to go see Clutch without being mesmerized by JP's playing.  His timing is impeccable and he adds tons of color to some pretty raucous music.

2. Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree - the man has some mean feet and can play cymbals as well as anyone I've ever heard.  He's a real genius with his kit.

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Over The Rainbow - The Stone Pony
« on: July 13, 2009, 11:11:24 AM »
very cool.  used to be a big fan of Blackmore's Rainbow.
I also used to be a big fan of The Stone Pony...have some great memories of that joint.

Thanks for the pics and the update. 
Good to know that JLT and Bobby are out there kickin' ass and not sucking the life out of some great Rock 'n Roll tunes (like some of these bands that "reunite" and tour).

Hope I get a chance to see them.

Steve

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Fav Lyrics
« on: July 07, 2009, 07:46:16 AM »
My favorite song of all time (lyrically).  Nothing else comes close.

Telegraph Road by Mark Knopfler

A long time ago came a man on a track
Walking thirty miles with a pack on his back
And he put down his load where he thought it was the best
Made a home in the wilderness
He built a cabin and a winter store
And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore
And the other travellers came riding down the track
And they never went further, no, they never went back

Then came the churches then came the schools
Then came the lawyers then came the rules
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
And the dirty old track was the telegraph road

Then came the mines - then came the ore
Then there was the hard times then there was a war
Telegraph sang a song about the world outside
Telegraph road got so deep and so wide
Like a rolling river. . .

And my radio says tonight its gonna freeze
People driving home from the factories
There's six lanes of traffic
Three lanes moving slow. . .

I used to like to go to work but they shut it down
I got a right to go to work but there's no work here to be found
Yes and they say were gonna have to pay whats owed
Were gonna have to reap from some seed that's been sowed
And the birds up on the wires and the telegraph poles
They can always fly away from this rain and this cold
You can hear them singing out their telegraph code
All the way down the telegraph road

You know I'd sooner forget but I remember those nights
When life was just a bet on a race between the lights
You had your head on my shoulder you had your hand in my hair
Now you act a little colder like you don't seem to care
But believe in me baby and Ill take you away
From out of this darkness and into the day
From these rivers of headlights, these rivers of rain
From the anger that lives on the streets with these names
cos I've run every red light on memory lane
I've seen desperation explode into flames
And I don't want to see it again. . .

from all of these signs saying "Sorry, But We're Closed"
All the way down the telegraph road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj0cvL8KsHI&feature=related


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That's my point, too.
Make-up and flashbombs were the high points.  The records were the initial disappointments.

OK, I admit it...I like Detroit Rock City.
There, I said it.

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I said it before though, make up and flashbombs can't be put on records.

That's my point, too.
Make-up and flashbombs were the high points.  The records were the initial disappointments.

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May I ask you what your opinion is of the Who?


Are they also "Overrated Theater" or are they a band legendary because of their music and because of being the first that had a lead playing Bassplayer? And when you put on "Tommy" or "Who's next" and listen to those songs, do you go "Meh overrated crap and meaningless destruction of their gear." or do you go "Now that's a damn fine album, why don't they have bands like this anymore?"


The simple matter is that you can't see flashpots or makeup or a guitar being smashed when you put a Kiss album on, it's the music what made them big.
 
Same with Nirvana, put on their albums "Nevermind" and "In utero" and the fact that they wore shabby clothes and destroyed instruments on stage is irrelivant.

Wow. I'm a huge Who fan. Always have been.  I based my admiration on their music first, and the fact that as a kid, I thought John Entwistle was the greatest bass player ever.  I loved the Who's rawness, power and electricity.
The Who were great because of their music. They certainly earned the right to carry on however they wanted.  They were special.  Kiss was an act.  I've tried to listen.  Some of my best friends were Kiss fans in the '70's.  I thought they were posers back then, and nothing has changed. The fact that they had to saw through the neck so that Star-man could actually break it in two is hilarious...yet sad.

Nirvana is a huge mystery, not because of smashing anything (personally, it doesn't alter the fact that I think they sucked, that's just my opinion).  I happen to like several Seattle-based bands. It's Nirvana. I'm no prude. I grew up on the Sex Pistols, The Clash, X, The Ramones.  Smashing stuff and saying stupid things doesn't alter what you put down on vinyl.

I didn't post anything that was meant to offend anyone.  Everyone has their own taste in music.  Many people would cringe at some of my favorite bands.


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The Bass Zone / Re: Bassplayer Singers
« on: June 14, 2009, 02:07:54 PM »
You're in Chapel Hill? I'm in Raleigh!
Have you heard the new album collaboration by John Doe and The Sadies? It's awesome!


I'm actually in F-V, a bit south of Raleigh.
I've heard a bit of their first album - kind of amp'd up Knitters. Very cool stuff.

Did you get a chance to see X last week?  His vocals are still strong and he had that 'ol P-Bass thumpin' the house.
I've been waiting since '81 to see these guys and was kinda prepared to be let down.. They rocked.

Steve

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