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Title: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 09, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
I am sorry but I just do not get the whole "Buy a new guitar that is not only already scratched and dented but also the scratches and dents are identical to your favourite players guitar." Not to mention the insane price this added damage will cost you.  I just dont understand the logic at all  ???

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/c63d7603-a7a2-48c8-b383-e576de3c6351.jpg)

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-Custom/Billy-Gibbons-Pearly-Gates-Les-Paul-Standard.aspx
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Dave W on April 09, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
It's perfect for guys who copy their favorite players' licks note for note. Might as well copy the guitar dent for dent.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: exiledarchangel on April 10, 2010, 12:25:23 AM
For $499,99 plus postage/customs fees I can relic your guitar. So the only thing you must do is go buy an ordinary cheap guitar and send it to me. I will teach her a lesson.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Basvarken on April 10, 2010, 03:27:54 AM
Wonder if you get one of these along with that 25.000 dollar guitar...

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/11/3/1257258367197/fake-beard-001.jpg)

Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: gearHed289 on April 10, 2010, 08:30:06 PM
I am sorry but I just do not get the whole "Buy a new guitar that is not only already scratched and dented but also the scratches and dents are identical to your favourite players guitar." Not to mention the insane price this added damage will cost you.  I just dont understand the logic at all  ???

I hear ya! Crazy...
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Basshappi on April 10, 2010, 10:04:58 PM
Agreed, I'll do my own relicing the old-school way, thank you very much!
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Lightyear on April 11, 2010, 08:55:33 AM
Ah, but to be paid to beat the crap out of new guitars!  Now that's a fulfilling carrer! :P
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Hornisse on April 11, 2010, 09:53:57 AM
I remember a time in the late 1970's when you could buy a real late 50's sunburst Les Paul for around 3 grand.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Lightyear on April 11, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
When I was in highschool, say mid seventies, you could walk into Rockin Robin in Houston and take your pick of 60's SGs, Melody Makers, etc for about $250.00 - I can remember walking in and seeing dozens of the things hanging 10' off of the floor just gathering dust :sad:
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Dave W on April 11, 2010, 05:40:38 PM
When I was in highschool, say mid seventies, you could walk into Rockin Robin in Houston and take your pick of 60's SGs, Melody Makers, etc for about $250.00 - I can remember walking in and seeing dozens of the things hanging 10' off of the floor just gathering dust :sad:


Boomer nostalgia took care of that.

Of course if we had all worn President Ford's WIN buttons in the mid seventies, prices would still be that low.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on April 12, 2010, 01:58:25 AM
For "posers" only... don't approve of this sort of thing... yes, all of my instruments have been "modified" in some way, but there is just no way I would want to buy an instrument that's been deliberately "distressed" as it is "professionally" termed...

Hmm... mind you, Exiled and Buzz have got the idea... I could probably "time-warp" a few... ;D
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 12, 2010, 02:56:35 AM
I dont know about you guys but as crazy as this sounds I actually go out of my way to make sure my instruments dont get knocks and dents  :rolleyes:  Obviously I have got this all wrong and should be paying someone 5 times the normal price to knock my instruments around each time before I buy them.  I guess by doing this I do get the opportunity to hold up my new instrument in front of my musician mates and say "check it out! it has all the same dents and scratches as Billy Gibbons guitar!"  Cant wait to see their reaction.  ;D
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on April 12, 2010, 03:07:11 AM
Send over to me, Bret, and I'll offer you an LBO discount...

(25% extra "distressing" at no extra charge... :vader:)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: exiledarchangel on April 12, 2010, 03:41:55 AM
Send over to me, Bret, and I'll offer you an LBO discount...

(25% extra "distressing" at no extra charge... :vader:)

That's a good offer Kenny, but people of the LBO hear mine:

I won't relic your instruments myself.
Instead, I'll let this job to half naked koritsia with fruits.
Heck, I'll even send you pictures of the process at NO CHARGE!!!
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Basshappi on April 12, 2010, 11:49:32 AM
(http://browncardigan.com/imagesfarm/0iyK0KE3iADFsrJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on April 12, 2010, 02:18:16 PM
I won't relic your instruments myself.
Instead, I'll let this job to half naked koritsia with fruits.
Heck, I'll even send you pictures of the process at NO CHARGE!!!

Damn... trumped by a bunch of bananas...  ;)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Denis on April 13, 2010, 11:23:40 AM
I wonder why Gibson hasn't made a Neil Young Les Paul Goldtop, "Old Black". I bet they'd charge $10,000 for it with all the work that would mean... Of course, the custom shop doesn't like Firebirds or Thunderbirds because they are a lot of work...  :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Black
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Dave W on April 13, 2010, 09:34:26 PM
I wonder why Gibson hasn't made a Neil Young Les Paul Goldtop, "Old Black". I bet they'd charge $10 for it with all the work that would mean... Of course, the custom shop doesn't like Firebirds or Thunderbirds because they are a lot of work...  :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Black


They should. I mean, they just don't have enough Les Pauls in their lineup, they need more.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Denis on April 14, 2010, 05:17:47 AM
Oops, I meant to write "$10,000" not "$10".

At least Young's LP is a lot cooler than that Tiger Fart thing.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 14, 2010, 06:22:27 AM
Oops, I meant to write "$10,000" not "$10".

At least Young's LP is a lot cooler than that Tiger Fart thing.

LOL  :D
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Hornisse on April 14, 2010, 08:29:02 PM
(http://i43.tinypic.com/ne6k8y.jpg)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: exiledarchangel on April 15, 2010, 12:23:01 AM
Why does Neil Young's guitar has still its pickguard?

A) To protect from scratches
B) To protect from lots of scratches
C) To protect from a shitload of scratches

The winner gets a free relicjob.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on April 15, 2010, 03:08:15 AM
... and don't forget, you'll also have a guaranteed microphonic P90...

(at least I think it's the P90 - there is a common perception within NY's cronies that this is part of the "unique" sound he get's from "Ol' Black" - he is reputedly fanatical about nothing being done to her...!)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Chris P. on April 21, 2010, 11:05:27 PM
Neil Young makes his sound with the P90, the Firebird pick up, but also with his souped up Fender amp, which he modded himself. It gets so hot it always has a fan standing at the back:) Of course Young's an electronic expert, designing light and sound features for model trains.


We had a lot of discussions about reliced, aged, stressed, ... guitars and basses. My head says it's strange, stupid, not done, bad, ... but my heart loves them! Especially the heavy aged Sandberg basses. If I walk into a shop and I see a brand new 50s P in Fiesta Red and there's also a reliced Pino Palladino reissue, I drool over the last one.. Can't do a thing about it!!


My girlfriend bought a great sounding P90 LP Junior in white without grain filling and clear lacquer. Just the faded version. At the back it already have some dents and some visible wood, but that's nice!!
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: uwe on May 31, 2010, 05:57:55 AM
I played a Johnny Winter signature relic'ed Firebird once. Admittedly, it felt nice.  :-[
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Basvarken on May 31, 2010, 06:39:51 AM
Like a boney morony? Or a stick of macaroni?  ;D
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Pilgrim on May 31, 2010, 08:54:24 PM
I've never understood relics. Let's set aside for a moment that they're fakes - they pretend to be something they're not, which to me is dishonest.

In a larger sense, to me, the mark of respect for a tool or instrument is to keep it in the best possible condition.  Treating an instrument with care and being careful not to cause unnecessary damage, nicks or scrapes is (to me) not only an expectation but an obligation.

You just don't beat the crap out of valuable things.  You take care of them.  Of course some wear will occur over time, but it's always easy to see the difference between a well-cared-for instrument and one that has been tossed around and treated roughly.

I know that others don't feel the same way.  They're entitled to their opinion, even when it's wrong. ;)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 01, 2010, 12:55:00 AM
Well said Al.    My Jazz is due to go back into the shop soonish for here 25 year re-fin. I cant see the point in wearing holes in the wood just to (apparently) look cooly authentic. She is my tool after all.
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on June 01, 2010, 10:22:14 AM
Send the body up here, Bret... I feel a Tequila coming on...  ;D
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Dave W on June 01, 2010, 02:49:17 PM
Artificially relic'ed = poseured


Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 01, 2010, 09:25:42 PM
Send the body up here, Bret... I feel a Tequila coming on...  ;D

Not likely me ol' china.  I love what you've done to the CookBird  but I'm secretly enamoured by natural woodgrain. Especially on this old girl. She was originally Olympic white I'm told but I've never seen her any other way than Natural.

Thanks for the offer though  ;)
Title: Re: Relic's Gibsons
Post by: Highlander on June 02, 2010, 10:33:19 AM
If the wood is good... oil and hard work...