Author Topic: Epiphone JCS-P  (Read 2732 times)

Chris P.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5247
  • Warwickhoer
    • View Profile
    • The La La Lies
Epiphone JCS-P
« on: July 10, 2009, 09:17:26 AM »
http://www.epiphone.com/news.asp?NewsID=1578

I love the fact that this guy batters his Epi by installing some P electronics and Epi still features him in an interview!

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6882
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 11:54:42 AM »
As if the JCS doesn't sound Precision like enough by itself...
Oh well okay it doens't have that much "bite" maybe.

Highlander

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12542
  • There Ken be only one...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 02:21:32 PM »
Seems to live by my "school of modding" after reading that article... not always the wisest of things...  ;D
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

Dave W

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 22246
  • Got time to breathe, got time for music
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 09:20:16 PM »
As if the JCS doesn't sound Precision like enough by itself...
Oh well okay it doens't have that much "bite" maybe.

It doesn't strike me as sounding like a Precision at all. OTOH I've never owned one, my experience is limited to regularly hearing one guy who would switch between his G&L SB-1 (using the P pickup) and the JCS.

It is funny that Epi would feature someone who yanked the original electronics.

Chris P.

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5247
  • Warwickhoer
    • View Profile
    • The La La Lies
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 01:23:46 AM »
I think the original LP Sig is more P-ish.

Yep, Dave, the last thing you wrote: Love that!

@ Kenny: I think he's a lurker here and he did imitate your style:)

uwe

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 21448
  • Enabler ...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 06:44:07 AM »
The LP Sig was actually conceived by Les Paul to sound like a P Bass (hence the long scale which he preferred on a bass) because he liked how P Basses sounded, he just wanted a bass that could do a few more sounds in addition. If you put an LP Sig varitone in the position that is the least loud (excepting that control board tone you get from the bottom jacket), then it has that sparkle of a good P Bass. Using the other positions "gibsonizes" the sound more and more.

Now, for whatever reason, they did not replicate that with the Epi JC, that Electra pup is thuddy no matter what position you use, in that sense the JS is more faithful to what you would expect from a Gibson bass, but not faithful to the original intents of the LP Sig. I don't think it's an issue with the construction of the bass, it's the pup and electronics. I'm sure Rob's JC sounds a lot more P-ish now with the Triumph pup.

My Fender playing buddy here exclaimed first time he played the LP Sig: This sounds like a good P Bass! He's never said that about any other of my Gibson basses.

Uwe
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Highlander

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12542
  • There Ken be only one...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2009, 11:13:35 AM »
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Chris...  ;)
The random mind of a Silver Surfer...
If research was easy, it wouldn't need doing...
Staring at that event horizon is a dirty job, but someone has to do it; something's going to come back out of it one day...

barend

  • Guest
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 02:28:58 AM »
if you do anything to make it sound like a P bass, why not play on a real P bass?

« Last Edit: July 14, 2009, 05:06:26 AM by barend »

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6882
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009, 02:43:43 AM »
Because you don't want a Precision maybe.
Or the neck doesn't feel comfortable.
Or you don't like bolt on necks.
Or you don't like 4 in line machine heads. etc
I can think of enough reasons...

uwe

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 21448
  • Enabler ...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009, 03:49:14 AM »
if you do anything to make it sound like a P bass, why not play on an real P bass?



Because, with all due respect to its iconic and groundbreaking status in rock, which is truly deserved, it is one ugly utalitarian plank of wood. Nothing sensual about it, a workhorse.

Jazz Basses are sexy though.

We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

barend

  • Guest
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009, 05:04:47 AM »
 :mrgreen:

I think a Precision is sexy too. I stayed away from a P bass for a while because everyone has one. But now I have one again and I like it. And if I have to be honest to myself; it is one of the best sounding basses I ever had. The neck feels great too and although it has only one pickup is quite versatile.

Do I get banned from the forum now?  :)

uwe

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 21448
  • Enabler ...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009, 05:07:15 AM »
No, I'm an avid believer in the Amendment of freedom of bad taste. It's ok to like P Basses.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Basvarken

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 6882
  • hobby luthier. gibson bass nerd
    • View Profile
    • www.enkoo.nl
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2009, 05:15:27 AM »
Do I get banned from the forum now?  :)

No, we'll just burn you at the stake

SKATE RAT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1267
  • too much chicken will make you blind.
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2009, 05:16:35 AM »
i love P's but not so much the Jazz.
'72 GIBSON SB-450, '74 UNIVOX HIGHFLYER, '75 FENDER P-BASS, '76 ARIA 4001, '76 GIBSON RIPPER, '77 GIBSON G-3, '78 GUILD B-301, '79 VANTAGE FLYING V BASS, '80's HONDO PROFESSIONAL II, '80's IBANEZ ROADSTAR II, '92 GIBSON LPB-1, 'XX WAR BASS, LTD VIPER 104, '01 GIBSON SG SPECIAL, RAT FUZZ AND TUBES

uwe

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 21448
  • Enabler ...
    • View Profile
Re: Epiphone JCS-P
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2009, 05:21:53 AM »
No, we'll just burn you at the stake

Good idea. That doesn't - technically - impede freedom of bad taste.

I always like it when you go back to your Catholic roots, Rob. You can say what you like about the Holy Inquisition, but it set about with a certain painstaking diligence and determination.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...