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Title: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2014, 09:50:12 AM
I'm mortified how no one from you guys has started this thread yet, you should all be ashamed of yourselves, his political views might not be shared by everyone, but without him the concept of a singer/songwriter would not be the same today. And Dylan and Springsteen might have never picked up a guitar.

(http://www.hrcr.org/ccr/seeger.jpg)

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/28/showbiz/pete-seeger-death/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE4H0k8TDgw

He can duet with Marlene now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLAxbQxyJSQ
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: the mojo hobo on January 29, 2014, 11:26:55 AM
I'm mortified how no one from you guys has started this thread yet, you should all be ashamed of yourselves,

It is because we are all in mourning :sad:
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2014, 11:47:17 AM
Sigh, folk prophets in their own land and all that ... It's big news here in Germany. I was genuinely surprised nothing was up here already.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2014, 12:22:09 PM
I'm sure many of us saw it on the news. But I'm not surprised at the lack of a mention here before now. People start memorial threads about artists who were important to them. We're a small forum and Pete Seeger has been out of the spotlight for a couple of generations.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Basvarken on January 29, 2014, 12:33:30 PM
Agreed Dave.

It was on the news over here too.
No CD's of Pete Seeger in my collection though (nor Dylan, nor Springsteen)...  :-[
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: westen44 on January 29, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
Agreed Dave.

It was on the news over here too.
No CD's of Pete Seeger in my collection though (nor Dylan, nor Springsteen)...  :-[

I've never been able to understand how Bruce Springsteen even got famous in the first place.  So boring.  :bored:

I was never a Pete Seeger fan, either, but he was far more relevant than Springsteen. 
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2014, 12:45:09 PM
I don't have a CD of him either, but enough of other artists who have played his songs!

Byrds, Dylan, Springsteen, Neil Young, Joan Baez, Marlene Dietrich, Peter, Paul & Mary, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - I'm a closet folkie!

So he's not even remembered for this here?  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEZkZamGCmE
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: westen44 on January 29, 2014, 03:08:52 PM
I don't have a CD of him either, but enough of other artists who have played his songs!

Byrds, Dylan, Springsteen, Neil Young, Joan Baez, Marlene Dietrich, Peter, Paul & Mary, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - I'm a closet folkie!

So he's not even remembered for this here?  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEZkZamGCmE

The song's importance is mentioned several times in this article/interview.  Like how it became the anthem for the civil rights movement and later Bruce Springsteen used it to relate to a new generation. 


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/remember/jan-june14/seeger_01-28.html
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: gweimer on January 29, 2014, 03:56:10 PM
I was never a big folk fan, but I do recognize his contributions.  I always knew this song was his before The Byrds made it famous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7P4n2uT0w
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Highlander on January 29, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
rip...

We all know the name, but how many of us now could name anything he was responsible for without looking him up...?

Even Obama had a few words for him... (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25923852)
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 29, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
I was born 1960 and would have credited at least This Land is your Land to him. And Where have all the Flowers gone. I didn't know about We Shall Overcome (thought it was an age-old spiritual) and to my eternal shame would have credited Turn, Turn, Turn to Robert Zimmermann. Or Bob Dylan.

I just had him and Woody Guthrie jotted down in my memory banks as the godfathers of American folk music that is not just C&W (nothing wrong with the latter). And if it wasn't for them and the people who followed them like Bob Dylan, Elliott Murphy and James Taylor, all  rock music lyrics would still deal with boy meets girl and tutti frutti, so, yes, I think Pete Seeger is a little relevant for what this forum is about too.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Dave W on January 29, 2014, 06:17:17 PM
This Land Is Your Land was a Woody Guthrie song. Nothing to do with Seeger.

He certainly didn't write We Shall Overcome, though he did have something to do with making it popular.

I always liked Turn Turn Turn but whoever wrote the lyrics, it wasn't Pete!



Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: gweimer on January 29, 2014, 06:21:27 PM
I always liked Turn Turn Turn but whoever wrote the lyrics, it wasn't Pete!

Good one!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Denis on January 29, 2014, 07:17:03 PM
I posted something on my FB page and a link to an article about him the day he died.
A couple of days later a friend posted on his that he was surprised to see so many RIPs offered in honor of Seeger and wondered why there were so many more for Pete than for Lou Reed.

At first I thought "yeah, typical punk doesn't like hippie folk music" but then I thought it could be simply that many people simply fail to see the influence of something they don't care much about.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: OldManC on January 29, 2014, 09:43:21 PM
According to the other thread Uwe, you're expecting me to chime in. So think of whatever cartoony, over the top comment you'd expect me to say, double it, and you'll know what went through my mind when I heard the news.  :mrgreen: As with almost anyone else though, RIP.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: drummer5359 on January 29, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
As a boy in the 1960's I had a teacher who was a bit of a folkie. She spent a lot of time teaching us songs by Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Joan Baez, etc... While she was teaching the songs she would talk about the messages in the songs, just to plant a seed.

I do own some Pete Seeger music, but have just about everybody's music...


RIP Pete.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: nofi on January 30, 2014, 07:45:09 AM
maybe if pete had been in whitesnake more notice would have been taken. for me he was a touchstone to a time when people gave a damn about the environmental condition of this country and its people, all the people. :sad:

ah, someone i can finally blame for springsteen. ;D
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: gweimer on January 30, 2014, 08:28:53 AM
Even Judas Priest covered a Joan Baez song.   8)
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Pilgrim on January 30, 2014, 08:39:36 AM
When I think Pete Seeger, I always think "Wast Deep In The Big Muddy".  A scorching condemnation of the idiocy of the Vietnam War...and as a boomer, I'm a Vietnam era kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXnJVkEX8O4
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: westen44 on January 30, 2014, 10:12:54 AM
Not that long ago, I saw a documentary on Pete Seeger which was very good.  It must have been one of the American Masters programs on PBS.  I tend to be critical of documentaries, but thought this was really a good one.  Maybe they'll show it again soon. 
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
"maybe if pete had been in whitesnake more notice would have been taken"

Ouch!!!  :mrgreen: Nofi, the stinger ...
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2014, 03:08:08 PM
According to the other thread Uwe, you're expecting me to chime in. So think of whatever cartoony, over the top comment you'd expect me to say, double it, and you'll know what went through my mind when I heard the news.  :mrgreen: As with almost anyone else though, RIP.

Ah, Herr Carlston! There is either no heaven for both Objectivists and Communists (and anyone else) or they both (we all) will have to learn to get along there. And both Ayn and Pete despised racism, so there!

Agnosticism is a handy ideology, you keep all your options open.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: Pilgrim on January 30, 2014, 03:46:36 PM
Although I'm not always given to grand generalizations.....Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Peter Paul and Mary and many others were among the voices of conscience in the 60's.  They were disliked by many who disagreed with their messages, and I'm sure they were proud to occupy that position. What they expressed was part of the considerable social change that took place in the 60's, and pointed the direction that society was moving.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: the mojo hobo on January 30, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
I saw a TV program about Pete Seeger a year or so ago that told his life story. What I remember is he lived a simple life in the woods but remained an activist and is responsible for leading the effort to clean our rivers. He was a remarkable man.
Title: Re: Pete Seeger
Post by: nofi on January 31, 2014, 08:28:37 AM
he lived in the hudson river valley where i grew up. a beautiful place, indeed.