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Title: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on March 28, 2011, 01:43:39 AM: http://knoxville.craigslist.org/msg/2289240199.html

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Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 04:21:18 AM: I e mailed the seller lets see what happens. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on March 28, 2011, 05:34:47 AM: wow cheap even with the repair
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 06:01:05 AM: A couple of unbroken original finish NR Thunderbird IIs went for around 2k on ebay over the winter. I don't think this is that great a price, but it's a starting point.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 12:56:58 PM: Still waiting for a reply might not want to be bothered by a yankee.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on March 28, 2011, 01:30:07 PM: Quote from: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 12:56:58 PM
Still waiting for a reply might not want to be bothered by a yankee.

Well, you know what they are like. ;)

I guess the price of NR's is a perspective thing. You "yankees" would see a lot of local ads whereas here we really only see big guitar resellers and ebay.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 02:08:10 PM: Quote from: Psycho Bass Guy on March 28, 2011, 01:43:39 AM
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/msg/2289240199.html

no affiliation; just passing it along.
PBG would you be willing to help me out with this? Is he anywhere near you? Either its sold or he is not interested in a out of state buyer. If you have any ideas that would be great. Thanks, Scott
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on March 28, 2011, 05:55:34 PM: I'll shoot him an email.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 28, 2011, 07:11:23 PM: Thanks, I got a email with pictures and a phone call. Need to sleep on it I am going to talk more with him tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Bionic-Joe on March 29, 2011, 02:22:21 AM: Damn!!!! I'm out!!!! I just bought a black 1991 Gibson SG Standard and an early 1970's Gallien Krueger GMT 600B bass amp!!!! Plus I am Moving tomorrow. That seems like a Cool Bass!!!!!!! And I was born in Jacksonville, Fla!!!!!! Raised a Yankee!!!!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 29, 2011, 05:24:33 AM: Yeah I'm going for it just have to hammer out the details.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Tyrellp34 on March 29, 2011, 06:16:56 AM: Congrats. Nice bass!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on March 29, 2011, 07:29:30 AM: Good luck Scott
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 29, 2011, 10:34:16 AM: Quote from: Tyrellp34 on March 29, 2011, 06:16:56 AM
Congrats. Nice bass!
I don't have it yet and believe me the devil is in the "details"!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Bionic-Joe on March 29, 2011, 05:36:16 PM: CONGRATS!!!!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 30, 2011, 04:43:00 AM: I might have blown it, I made a offer and he says he has others interested, he will let me know on Thurs. Aside from the refin and headstock repair there are trim washers under the pots a sure sign of repair work to the top of the control cavity. Oh well I'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on March 30, 2011, 03:06:29 PM: My initial email to him simply expressed interest. I got another last night with all the pics, so I replied and told him that my interest was solely on your behalf Scott. I'm guessing that I'm 'the other interested party' or it would have already been gone.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: mc2NY on March 31, 2011, 04:32:56 PM: Nah....I was the "Number 2 guy" since the first day. Wanted it for parts. Seller just emailed me again wanting to know if I want it because he has an offer he will consider if I don't.

So....have at it. I'm going to email him back and pass on it.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on March 31, 2011, 04:41:52 PM: Well we will see he is supposed to call me tonight, in the wake of this I have changed my plans some what. I am selling off some basses to raise big bucks for a nice NR and maybe a beater also. Not so sure about this bass without having it in my hands. Aside from all the other stuff there are trim washers under the pots pretty sure the top of the control cavity is compromised.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 01, 2011, 12:37:39 PM: Inching ever closer to a deal.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 01, 2011, 01:06:39 PM: Looks like shes mine :)
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: drbassman on April 01, 2011, 01:16:58 PM: Quote from: godofthunder on April 01, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Looks like shes mine :)

I'm so envious!

Hey, check your PM when you have a chance.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 01, 2011, 01:22:29 PM: Bill, Save your envy till I get a good look at it ! I hope I haven't bought a basket case. :o What the hey in for a penny in for a pound.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: TBird1958 on April 01, 2011, 01:43:59 PM: Congratulations Scott, enjoy her in good health :toast:
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 01, 2011, 01:47:06 PM: Thanks Mark! Already thinking of what color.................. the usual suspects, Ivernesse green, Pelham blue, Cardinal red, or Polaris white.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 01, 2011, 04:29:01 PM: congrats Scott
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Dave W on April 01, 2011, 09:09:38 PM: Congrats, hope there are no major problems.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Stjofön Big on April 02, 2011, 12:42:53 AM: Congratulations, as Sir Cliff Richard once put it so smoothly!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 02, 2011, 05:42:22 AM: Quote from: Dave W on April 01, 2011, 09:09:38 PM
Congrats, hope there are no major problems.
Well it is a bit of a pig in a poke but I am confident that if there are problems I can handle them. The last '67 I bought had a failed headstock repair, it was a pretty easy fix.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 02, 2011, 08:27:18 AM: A few pictures! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/050.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/051.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/070.jpg)
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Dave W on April 02, 2011, 12:54:20 PM: Looks promising.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: birdie on April 02, 2011, 07:49:05 PM: i like it!!
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Barklessdog on April 03, 2011, 08:07:20 AM: Great price. Funny looking purple??
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 03, 2011, 10:55:40 AM: Yeah it's a black /purple
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 03, 2011, 08:44:32 PM: I have no idea if this is current but here is another. Bit far away from you Scot and insanely expensive at Aus$8,000 but interesting to look at nonetheless.

http://www.vintageandrare.com/product/Gibson-Thunderbird-5-1965-Sunburst-4773# (http://www.vintageandrare.com/product/Gibson-Thunderbird-5-1965-Sunburst-4773#)

(http://www.vintageandrare.com/uploads/products/4773/47616/original.jpg)

1965 Gibson "Thunderbird 5" Ex. Sammi Yaffa (Hanoi Rocks), Bjärne Fräberg(The Nomads) Super cool bass, No breaks!!!! W/Flightcase...
65.000sek / €5.820,-
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: godofthunder on April 04, 2011, 04:29:32 AM: Thanks for posting that thankfully it is a IV I am in the market for a II.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Dave W on April 04, 2011, 10:18:38 AM: Quote from: Freuds_Cat on April 03, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
I have no idea if this is current but here is another. Bit far away from you Scot and insanely expensive at Aus$8,000 but interesting to look at nonetheless.

http://www.vintageandrare.com/product/Gibson-Thunderbird-5-1965-Sunburst-4773# (http://www.vintageandrare.com/product/Gibson-Thunderbird-5-1965-Sunburst-4773#)

...

Am I missing something? Why is this a "Thunderbird 5"?

Looks beat-to-shit. Why the ridiculous price? Nice that there are no breaks, but that doesn't justify the price. Is Sammi Yaffa a celebrity? He has never been well known even to other bassists and Hanoi Rocks never had commercial success.
Title: Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks!!!
Post by: uwe on April 04, 2011, 12:30:46 PM: Dave: Saying the Hanoi Rocks "had no commercial success" beckons the question whether you know a Finnish band with more success. Abba and Roxette were Swedish and Aha Norwegian. It's a bit like saying that The Velvet Underground were less important to rock music than the Beach Boys because they had less success. People who want to own a bass by Sam Yaffa don't care about his record sales, they want to own a piece of history. Which with Yaffa also includes the New York Dolls (last two studio albums) and his own brave project Mad Juana which defies the description stadium rock. Yaffa is the guy playing the acoustic guitars in those vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRufcWfuTBw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plNThxe2wnY

To people who like music in that netherworld of punk, rock'n'roll and glam, the Hanoi Rocks were nothing short of iconic and a blueprint to a lot of later bands (none of them with the depth and inherent cool of the Rocks). The Rocks were carying the banner: At a time when it was unfashionable to like Mott the Hoople, they wanted Overend Watts as their producer. When everyone looked New Wave, they grew their hair long and wore leopard skin spandexes without ever being mistaken for Iron Maiden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyH_E4N3j0s (featuring a raucous TBird sound btw)

The tragic death of their - Brit - drummer at the hands of drunken Vince Neil curtailed their career. At that point they were actually going somewhere, Bob Ezrin having given them a lavish production on Two Steps from the Move. Bands like Guns & Roses and Mötley all admit that they were an influence, visually and musically. And Michael Monroe's new album - with Sam Yaffa on bass - gets great reviews currently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t174bXsekJM

And besides Monroe has covered a song from another great band which never went anywhere either. So there! :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NJAbJdknM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_YoeCpF74

Hanoi Rant over. You can have meant (and mean) something in rock'n'roll and still not have been a commercial success. Especially if your drummer dies on your first large scale American tour. Where is George Carlston to come to the rescue when you need him?
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Dave W on April 04, 2011, 01:33:32 PM: Geez, six videos in one post? ??? What's next? Starting posts with "As we all know,..."? :mrgreen:

They may be iconic somewhere. In the US? I don't think so. I know very little about glam rock, so I could be wrong, but I never even heard of them back in the day.

Now to my simple mind, Motorhead and the Ramones are examples of iconic bands that never had much commercial success. Not Hanoi Rocks. And if you ask 100 random bassists to identify the names Lemmy, Dee Dee and Sammi, you know who would finish last.

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You can have meant (and mean) something in rock'n'roll and still not have been a commercial success.

Of course. I just don't think that applies to the value of this bass.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Nocturnal on April 04, 2011, 02:56:00 PM: Quote from: Dave W on April 04, 2011, 01:33:32 PM
What's next? Starting posts with "As we all know,..."? :mrgreen:

;D ;D ;D

Of course. I just don't think that applies to the value of this bass.

I was/am a huge fan of Hanoi Rocks, but the price for the bass is waaaay out of line IMO.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: OldManC on April 04, 2011, 04:02:46 PM: Quote from: uwe on April 04, 2011, 12:30:46 PM
Where is George Carlston to come to the rescue when you need him?

Quote from: Nokturnal on April 04, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
I was/am a huge fan of Hanoi Rocks, but the price for the bass is waaaay out of line IMO.

When I saw Dave's post earlier today I thought about it for a second and realized that, for the purposes of this thread, he was right. I love Hanoi and most of the offshoots that have kept rolling all these years. I even spent half an hour shooting the breeze with Sam around 1988 in Salt Lake City when his band (Jetboy) opened for Cheap Trick. He seemed genuinely touched that someone not only remembered him from Hanoi but professed to be such a fan. I still have his old phone number around here on a ticket stub...

Sam Yaffa is kind of a big deal to me but I know I'm one of very few in the larger scheme of things. That being said, I wouldn't buy that bass just because he owned it. Now if it had belonged to Arthur Kane... ;D
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: uwe on April 04, 2011, 04:53:13 PM: If anything, the New York Dolls were less successful and popular than the Hanoi Rocks! In the midseventies, the Dolls were laughing stock in the serious rock press - I know because I was one of the few who had both their albums (cut off sleeves as they sold so poorly) and liked them. Only the (overplayed) McLaren connection and Johnny Thunders' UK career made it cool to like the Dolls in hindsight. I remember inerviews by Stephen Tyler and Morgan Fisher (Mott the Hoople) were both made excuses for liking them due to the Doll#s lomited musical capabilities. Pre-punk that was a big issue. Make no mistake: I love the Dolls. Back then and today.

The Hanoi Rocks were a cult band, but a popular one in the circles of their and affiliated music. If you love Sam Yaffa and what he stood for, you might want that bass. It is most likely the only reason for buying it as there are better condition TBs for the same or less money around. I'm no celebrity instrument collector at all, but if you are than a bass of Sam Yaffa isn't the worst place to start. And it certainly looks like it has been honestly gigged all those wasted years.
Title: Re: Non-Rev in my neck of the woods
Post by: Freuds_Cat on April 04, 2011, 04:58:18 PM: Quote from: Nokturnal on April 04, 2011, 02:56:00 PM
;D ;D ;D

Of course. I just don't think that applies to the value of this bass.

I was/am a huge fan of Hanoi Rocks, but the price for the bass is waaaay out of line IMO.

+1

but then, I dont and will never get the whole "this bass was played/owned by (insert prefered iconic bassist)