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Title: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Dave W on February 18, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Bolivian Couple Explain Decision To Name Son IRON MAIDEN (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bolivian-couple-explain-decision-to-name-son-iron-maiden/)

The kid's father: "I want my son to have that strength, that energy. I want him to fight for what he wants, to have the attitude and, above all, to be mentally strong."

Where have we heard that before?

The father in A Boy Named Sue: "So I give ya that name and I said goodbye/I knew you'd have to get tough or die/And it's the name that helped to make you strong"
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Highlander on February 18, 2017, 01:16:34 PM
... Anything but Sue...! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 18, 2017, 02:41:39 PM
They could have compromised and just called him Trooper. Still sounds tough, still an Iron Maiden song yet much more practical.
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Highlander on February 18, 2017, 07:52:44 PM
He'd get nicknamed Super or Starship... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2017, 05:44:47 AM
Iron sounds suitably male, Maiden not so much, but then in Spanish middle names of the opposite sex aren't rare. Even in Germany with its restrictive name rules your first and middle name can be "Klaus Maria" as a male. Only the first name has to unequivocally determine the sex, that is why, say, "Kim" isn't allowed in Germany as a sole first name for either boys or girls, but you're allowed to name your kid "Kim-Eva" or "Kim-Adam". ("-Eva" and "-Adam" are then part of your first name, not middle names.) I would imagine that the transgender issue will probably change that naming law in the not too distant future where people will not want to have their gender recognized by their first name.

Female names as second names is pretty much unheard of in Anglo-American naming practice, right?

Alice Cooper excepted, of course. Ole Vince even has that in his passport now.

I always loved the lyric to "A Boy named Sue", but then I'm a Shel Silverstein diehard, the man never wrote a bad lyric in his life, he's a John Steinbeck of lyric writing to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0HEQ8WSuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0KsK-Ftzpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Z50V7tadg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHteLeXuE48

Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: gweimer on February 20, 2017, 08:50:41 AM
I've been told that Robert Steven Belew took his more well known name, Adrian, from his first girlfriend in high school.
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
I never thought of Adrian as a female name!

But now that you mention it, wasn't Rocky Balboa's wife an Adrian (or Adriane) too?

Belew probably took that name to defy expectations - that kind of sums him up.  :mrgreen: (With all due respect to the early 80ies King Crimsonites here!)

Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Dave W on February 20, 2017, 09:26:52 AM
Shel had a golden voice too. I remember seeing him sing this on Carson back in the 60s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTGdke4Amo

Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 20, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
David Lee Roth has the same middle name as Lee Remick's first name. There are lots of men with Female fist names. Lindsey Buckingham, Leslie Nielson, Stacy Keach, Carol Reed, Dana Carvey, Jamie Oliver...
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2017, 11:58:33 AM
Shel had a golden voice too. I remember seeing him sing this on Carson back in the 60s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksTGdke4Amo

With all due respect to his lyrical and songwriting skills (and I know that early Dr. Hook was nothing without his songs), that voice is not quite  :mrgreen: in the same league as Dennis Loccoriere's or Ray Sawyer's. Bit shrill. I now know what the producer of Dr. Hook meant when he said "I've got this songwriter who writes great songs but he can't really sing" when Dr. Hook (& the Medicine Show as they were then still called) recorded their first album, not having enough songs of their own.

Not that there is anything wrong with shrieking in the right places!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xFkjmYaAfQ
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: uwe on February 20, 2017, 02:10:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmt7wo0Tnr8

I now believe Dave was being ironic when he wrote Shel had a "golden voice". He should have used italics, that always helps.
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Highlander on February 20, 2017, 03:40:16 PM
There was that actor called Marion Michael Morrison... did he ever get a break...? ;)

Some variations feminine/masculine... Adrienne/Adrian, Alexandra/Alexander, Andrea/Andrew, Christine/Chris, Davina/David, Jessie/Jesse, Michelle/Michael, Lesley/Leslie, Stacy/Stacey, Nickie/Nicky, Harriet/Harry... there's dozens...
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: westen44 on February 20, 2017, 11:31:34 PM
I never thought of Adrian as a female name!

But now that you mention it, wasn't Rocky Balboa's wife an Adrian (or Adriane) too?

Belew probably took that name to defy expectations - that kind of sums him up.  :mrgreen: (With all due respect to the early 80ies King Crimsonites here!)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VyzII09Hos
Title: Re: "My name is Sue..."
Post by: Dave W on February 21, 2017, 11:42:32 AM
Two more songs written by Shel.

https://youtu.be/sbhzLEzsD6k


Written for Tompall Glaser, but I enjoy this version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJNSWkgPr9g