first bass, a Vox violin V250, that particular bass was a piece of crap, never again. second bass a converted to EB3 spec EBO i don't know what year it was but it had a 5 digit serial number (best i remember) and the cheap Jap tuners. i refinned it to black, about 30 coats of hand rubbed Black Krylon and had it refretted. sorry i ever sold it.