Well, at fifteen hundo I am not too hot to trot for one. I will wait till they show up used, damaged or blown out. I mentioned the Chinese Hofners, as they really aren't that far off the real German ones but they sell for peanuts. I have played a few of the oldies, and they are well made, but have that Hofner/Klira vibe - tubey neck. Everything is expensive these days, so I will watch out for them.