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A Tbird with a stoptail and three point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpMw5Vf1EAw&t=487s
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He missed the 4 knobs.
The guy has embarrassingly little knowledge outside of his Norlin-era Gibson comfort zone.
Look at what he has to say about a 1960 Ric 375F ("Huh! apparently it's valuable!" and the unbelievable "and as far as the rest of it goes - regular Rickenbacker stuff") (07:13)
https://youtu.be/TXsVUsI2yVk?t=433
And a '96 360 TUR - apparently he hasn't seen a single Ric in the 35 years between 1973 to 2008 (09:35)
https://youtu.be/TXsVUsI2yVk?t=575
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^^^
LMAO!!
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Trogly :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Well, if "it makes the strings feel slinkier" it must be a good thing. The dreaded non-slinky feel of the strings has really held me back from playing TBirds all these years.
Apart from being unnecessary, the holy immaculate three-point/stop-tail combo is butt-ugly.
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It's not about him or his descriptions. I don't even listened. It's about the basses,
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Chris wants to enlist Trogly's sparse yet succinct, charismatic depth of perception & analysis for Warwick. He's no less than stalking him, you just wait ...
PS: Just noticed your new avatar personal text, Herr Decker, have I christened you? :mrgreen:
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It's not about him or his descriptions. I don't even listened. It's about the basses,
You must be unflappable. Five seconds of his voice is enough to make me shudder.
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Chris wants to enlist Trogly's sparse yet succinct, charismatic depth of perception & analysis for Warwick. He's no less than stalking him, you just wait ...
PS: Just noticed your new avatar personal text, Herr Decker, have I christened you? :mrgreen:
I have this name here for many, many years, thanks to you! At least five years, maybe more.
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I need to get out more.
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Someone over at Talkbass bought the NR Tbird with the Tune-o Matic tailstop.
Looks like a very amateuristic job on that tailstop...
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/20220628_150436-jpg.4734214/)
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It's as crucial a modification as a pair of pontoons on an F-16 jet fighter. Form follows function - not.
I find silly fake stuff like this laughable, sorry.
But of course the strings will feel slinkier that way.
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They haven’t used that stop tail since the ES Les Paul Bass. Maybe they should sell them with a Slinky…….
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Yeah it's silly. And yeah it's a mismatch.
But what really bothers me is the sloppy craftsmanship.
It is not parallel to the bridge and not aligned properly.
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I like the way they’re just goofing around and putting out some silly stuff .
Just about everything else coming down the pike is mindless assembly line work .
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WHY the Les Paul style? They could have at least used a T-bird tailpiece. The mind boggles...
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No new basses this week.
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WHY the Les Paul style? They could have at least used a T-bird tailpiece. The mind boggles...
The janitor who did this modification probably couldn't find it in the parts drawer, because he didn't know he should look in the Epi drawer.
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SG with a Thunderbird pickup at the bridge.
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO1I4385/SG-Standard-Bass/Ebony
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Yeah it's silly. And yeah it's a mismatch.
But what really bothers me is the sloppy craftsmanship.
It is not parallel to the bridge and not aligned properly.
I'm with you my duitse bloedbroeder. It is - in a word - unordentlich (and you know how as a German I already feel nauseous just typing this).
Sehr unordentlich.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DimpledWellwornHapuka-size_restricted.gif)
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SG with a Thunderbird pickup at the bridge.
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO1I4385/SG-Standard-Bass/Ebony
It's there since June 8.
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It's there since June 8.
Well it's still nice. :)
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Oh no doubt. Still no one is really sure what "open-coil bridge pickup" means.
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I figure it has a coil splitter?
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Like the Junior bass?
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It sounds better with the full signal on the Jr , I try it for a minute or two about every three or four months or so , and then go right back to the full pickup .
Gotta say that Jr is one of my favourite things to play .
(but I’m kinda a Danelectro guy so you have to take that into consideration)
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But Daniplicktros are captivating basses that always draw my attention! I'm not a man who is easily distracted and loses sight of what's vital.
(https://images.oe24.at/Maneskin1.jpg/1600x900Crop/491.478.041)
(https://dilei.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2022/04/IPA-1.jpg)
In comparison, any 7ender stifles excitement, wouldn't you agree?
(https://www.imago-images.de/bild/st/0091978312/w.jpg)
I do take personal satisfaction from verifying things. The LBO is the tabernacle of scientific, unadulterated proof.
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Those are some good knobs.
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No counter-clockwise twistin' though, lefty boy!
Natural inclination is always worrisome with you guys ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gyM3aieQSo
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They weigh about five pounds , and with older strings you get a nice old school thump that slides right under the mix without taking up too much room . And they’re fun to play . But they were originally designed to be cheap into instruments , and they are what they are .
I was an older Pbass guy that had taken a liking for Rics . At first I didn’t like the short scale Longhorn , now I prefer to play short scales . Mostly gig with the Danos , and tend to play Gibsons at home . After falling hard for the Jr I picked up an SG , but find I still much prefer the Jr .
Still have the usual collection of classics people tend to acquire . I’ve been playing bars since the mid 70’s and still gig every week . But just a blue collar musician playing local mid sized bars .
I’m ok with that . Retired . And can put in personal time .
Bit of an amp nerd , but not crazy about lugging around big tube stacks . I drive and haul what I need to use . So I like modern cab design , and have found some Class D heads I love .
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They weigh about five pounds , and with older strings you get a nice old school thump
I had a 1960 shorthorn that lacked bottom end. With flats it sounded almost like a baritone.
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My Longhorn is a first gen Korean reissue from the Shinko Factory , it’s deep with ancient strings . Recently picked up a shortscale DC and it is much thinner , but I find it’s fattening up as the strings are getting older . So my hopes are high . I have a Dolphin nose , might be Chinese , I’m not sure , it has the LaBella Dano flats on it , and they are quite light , it’s thinner than the Longhorn . So the three I have all sound different .
When I first got the Longhorn it was twangy , and especially with a pick and soloed bridge pickup sounded like a baritone . Now the strings are about twenty four years old and all it does is thump . But it’s a nice deep woody old school one . I get that Joey Spampinato thing , I often use my thumb to get an upright sound .
I’d love to find a Jerry Jones Longhorn , but they’re pretty rare up here . A surprising number of roots and blues players around here have picked up Longhorns .
I’m partially to blame .
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There are still some Greco birds floating around this forum, right? I still have mine, though I don't play it very much anymore.
For whatever bizarre reason, it has the 3-point bridge with the 2-point tailpiece, not entirely unlike the NR at the start of this thread.
Does it make sense? No. Does it work fine? Sure. Why did they do it? I have no idea.
(https://slinkp.com/pages/bass/gear/lpb_greco_danodc.jpg)
At the end of the day, my favorite bridge out of the few Gibson (and clone) basses I've owned is still the one on my LPB-1, which I believe is a Schaller roller bridge. It's much easier to adjust than the 3-point, and works fine. I like easy-to-use functional bridges, and I think the purported differences in tone are exaggerated.
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The tailstop on a bass with a three point bridge does serve a purpose. It helps to keep the double windings off the bridge saddles.
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The tailstop on a bass with a three point bridge does serve a purpose. It helps to keep the double windings off the bridge saddles.
That does make sense, but do you think that's why Greco did it? I wonder why they wouldn't just do a two-piece like the '60s ones and Epiphone VP.
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I like that sparkle DC ! There’s something about that popsicle stick bridge I love .
(they sound better)
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The tailstop on a bass with a three point bridge does serve a purpose. It helps to keep the double windings off the bridge saddles.
A perfect, if aesthetically questionable solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first place which equates to "ugly without even a purpose". I've never ever had that winding issue with the three-point on a TBird and I use any brand of bass string I can get my hands on. Not on a properly intonated bass where it is unfathomable that all saddles would be snug towards the rear of the bridge.
Or do you all use only Rotosound Tru Bass sets on your Birds? :mrgreen:
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Back to the Mod Shop: I haven't paid that much attention to it, but aren't these basses really seconds that Gibson has rescued by putting something different on them? Some of the mods make no sense unless they're covering up a mistake.
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That does make sense, but do you think that's why Greco did it? I wonder why they wouldn't just do a two-piece like the '60s ones and Epiphone VP.
I can't think of any other reason why Greco would have done that.
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Back to the Mod Shop: I haven't paid that much attention to it, but aren't these basses really seconds that Gibson has rescued by putting something different on them? Some of the mods make no sense unless they're covering up a mistake.
For sure, but they have some very cool stuff from time to time, especially the guitars. And it's a chance to own a one-off or a color you really like, and not buy the zillionth burst LP off the rack.
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And that mustard TBird in Ilan's pic gives ample evidence how ugly a chrome bridge can look in the wrong setting.
That said, I kinda like the idea that they are throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. And it gives us something to discuss to lighten up our usual topics.
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Imagine how captivating Victoria DeAngelis could be if she played a Gibson. Well only as captivating as A cups can be I suppose. Now if Carol Kaye or Suzi Quatro went on stage today with nothing but electrical tape on their nips, that would really be something. :o
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I don’t think you really would want to be forced to look at that…😂
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You guys are despicable, since when did I stop being an ameliorating influence on and role model to you? I'm your Administrator!
For the record: I don't know about Carol, but Fräulein Quatro wore nothing but a cotton underwear slip (70ies!) underneath her (allegedly kangaroo) leather jumpsuits. No bra.
(https://cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/images/713586f7-ad21-4b95-9eb9-70e2c25188de_w1600_r0.9997500624843789_fpx45_fpy44.99.jpg)
I read that in a teen mag almost half a century ago, some things just stick. No make-up either, just an eyebrow pencil, it said.
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Uwe is a great mod who inspires us too see no shame in the natural beauty of the human body and cheers to that. :toast:
That Toyah Willcox isn't half bad for a woman in her 60s. Perhaps an inspiration to Victoria?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6U4ScxB5Xo
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I think the two are a really cute, vibrant couple. And she gets Robert to play INXS songs, no mean feat!
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You guys are despicable, since when did I stop being an ameliorating influence on and role model to you? I'm your Administrator Enabler!
Fixed your typo there....
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The first video of Toyah showing her new tits was kinda funny. But now she does it every week it gets really very tiresome and rather pathetic me thinks.
A cry for attention of a woman with a very limited musical talent.
@uwe: Suzi Q is an elderly lady now. I don't need to see her showing off her (sagging) boobs, thank you.
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She never aged in my right hand. I had her poster right at my bed. I'm the faithful type.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luvotortfO1qkofwio1_500.gifv)
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Fixed your typo there....
Well thanks for the inspiration! 8)
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Check the Soap Girls and their Explorer bass :mrgreen:
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Your wish is my command, voilà:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5mLXpFDVeQ
Very minimalist. Sometimes less is indeed more. It's art, but not as we know it.
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Wendy O Williams already explored that fashion territory some 40 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknNk_Esdl4
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I like the auto graveyard stage set. Frau Williams was one of a kind
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Oh no doubt. Still no one is really sure what "open-coil bridge pickup" means.
I think they mean non wax potted coils, like a PAF.
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NR Sparkling Burgundy, red pickup covers and a clear pickguard. $1,999
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOLQ549/Non-Reverse-Thunderbird/Sparkling-Burgundy
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOLQ549/Sparkling%20Burgundy/RAM018658-1.png)
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Lovely! Switch the controls and you're good.
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Lovely! Switch the controls and you're good.
I was thinking the same thing!
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Needs black hardware. :popcorn:
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NR Sparkling Burgundy, red pickup covers and a clear pickguard. $1,999
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOLQ549/Non-Reverse-Thunderbird/Sparkling-Burgundy
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOLQ549/Sparkling%20Burgundy/RAM018658-1.png)
I dig it!
Some knob fiddling is needed though....... :-*
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I dig it!
Some knob fiddling is needed though....... :-*
And maybe a tweak of the rod?
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Have we now added masturbation phantasies to our usual subjects?
(https://i.imgur.com/joVA2qb.gif)
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Needs black hardware. :popcorn:
Believe it or not, I agree with you.
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You must be unflappable. Five seconds of his voice is enough to make me shudder.
Yeah, this guy is a real nozzle.
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Believe it or not, I agree with you.
Well, I never saw you as a cross-burning member of the "no-black-hardware"-battle cry KKK (Kommitted Khrome Klan) here, but as a man of measured judgement, eschewing all '...isms', chromism being one of the worst human sins of all! :-* Hopefully, most people not heavily sight-impaired would agree with us. Red & Black is like vinegar & oil, a classic combo.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LeanSaltyHoneybadger.webp)
It's alright!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kefOWquqNrA
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/694668ddf30b6302d4a6673a94f1828f/tumblr_nqthksr04G1sqf5tdo2_500.gifv)
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Have we now added masturbation phantasies to our usual subjects?
(https://i.imgur.com/joVA2qb.gif)
It's supposed to be good for your Prostate, just do it - you know you want to!
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My prostate has had enough training for seven lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Q74swejZQ
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My prostate has had enough training for seven lives.
You have a cat's prostate?
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Sizewise you mean? More like a sabretooth's ...
(https://c.tenor.com/gh_Fh0YauxQAAAAC/prehistoric-animal-saber-toothed-cat.gif)
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No basses this week.
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What's the world coming to?
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I have one of these here things inbound.........
https://reverb.com/item/52136913-electra-mpc-outlaw-x610-bass-1970s
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Those are wild , do you know which modules are included?
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The guy who does the soldering and wiring on my builds has one of these. Excellent build quality!
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This 2015 LP is better than anything in the Mod Shop. And the description says it's good as new!
Gibson Les Paul customized G-force autotuner Fishman Fluence (https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/muziek-en-instrumenten/snaarinstrumenten-gitaren-elektrisch/m1876647347-gibson-les-paul-customized-g-force-autotuner-fishman-fluence)
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I have one of these here things inbound.........
https://reverb.com/item/52136913-electra-mpc-outlaw-x610-bass-1970s
Wow! A friend of mine in Florida modifies these to match Chris Squire's.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100046893407775 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100046893407775)
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I have one of these here things inbound.........
https://reverb.com/item/52136913-electra-mpc-outlaw-x610-bass-1970s
So cool! That's the bass I think of first folks compare my Chromasonic to other models like the EBMM Albert Lee. There is nothing new under the sun. :)
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https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/muziek-en-instrumenten/snaarinstrumenten-gitaren-elektrisch/m1876647347-gibson-les-paul-customized-g-force-autotuner-fishman-fluence
Has Steve Wishnevsky gone to art school now?
You laugh now, but it will end up in a Scandinavian Design museum and naked people will dance around it on a full moon night before setting it - mercifully - on fire.
What evil these Dutchmen do - vreselijk …
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I have one of these here things inbound.........
https://reverb.com/item/52136913-electra-mpc-outlaw-x610-bass-1970s
Mark, no worries, your stunning looks will compensate sufficiently for that butt-ugly abomination. Opposites attract.
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Sehr gute belüftung!
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Gibson's patented Swiss Cheese treatment of too heavy wood.
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I'm disturbed by the neck heel area. Somebody didn't know when to stop!
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And just because you like him so much
https://youtu.be/2dovNU1KKkw
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C'mon man, weight relief! :mrgreen:
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Why can't they paint an SG bass like this? Not everyone wants boring black. Let's see some bling, radiator pickup covers, racing stripes.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/70wpv2Iib3WyKMPdN9StxJ/660cb3d32e585aacde4435603a4658eb/RAM018490-1.jpg?h=300)
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And just because you like him so much
https://youtu.be/2dovNU1KKkw
I never know what to think about guitars until he's discussed them slowly enough to get the video over the ten minute mark.
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Mark, no worries, your stunning looks will compensate sufficiently for that butt-ugly abomination. Opposites attract.
It's a pretty cool bass,
i'll have more to say about it soon,
(https://i.imgur.com/CkGllEk.jpg)
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It's a pretty cool bass,
i'll have more to say about it soon,
Wow, that really suits you! Looking forward to the report.
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And just because you like him so much
https://youtu.be/2dovNU1KKkw
I'd rather watch paint dry.
I never know what to think about guitars until he's discussed them slowly enough to get the video over the ten minute mark.
And given you maybe15 seconds of useful information in that ten minutes.
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I’m curious how well the modules work.
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I’m curious how well the modules work.
That's what she said!
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I’m curious how well the modules work.
How easy are spare modules to find in the wild? Seems like quite a risk running old proprietary effects modules with zero OEM support. A fascinating idea in principle, almost ahead of its time, but hopefully the bass works 'neutered' without anything plugged into those ports if the modules are kaput?
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It's a pretty cool bass,
i'll have more to say about it soon,
(https://i.imgur.com/CkGllEk.jpg)
Reminds me somehow of a Burns Flyte in its design speak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZOhR0-zTI
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Flyte is that last thing it could do.......Heavy little &^%$#(
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I’m curious how well the modules work.
Flanger module sounds good. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzxZzIiO84Y
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Since when are nodules a good thing?
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No basses this week.
This beauty lasted about 30 seconds before it disappeared. At $2,299 I think it was an absolute steal.
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https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Electric-Guitar/MOD-RAM018549/Copper-Rose-Sparkle
$3.5K and not even a volume knob or a kill switch? And the rear rout is for what, your weed?
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That's weird. The pickguard shape looks like the route for the Tribute series Junior/Special. Even with no controls, you still would need access to the pickup to jack wiring. Maybe the top is solid under that pickguard with access at the rear rout. Vastly overpriced too.
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I don't think you need access. They could rout for the pickup and drill from the jack directly to the rout.
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Flanger module sounds good. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzxZzIiO84Y
This is the best Yes song I've never heard until it was posted here. Nice job by Owen Wilson on the keys ;D
By the way, not sure if anyone made changes to the forum but videos are coming through on my new Samsung phone. Perhaps it was just an issue with Apple?
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Still an Apple issue , at least on my iPad.
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Well, you know once someone took a bite of the fruit it is bound to go bad really fast. ;)
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I don't think you need access. They could rout for the pickup and drill from the jack directly to the rout.
True, but I doubt they would do that. Easier with a rout.
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Still no basses, but check out this Trini Lopez. Right-click, open image in new tab, and then enlarge.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/5cMW4LN2omnTkZO4Z0ozit/7306d464f3ac3f9895f302229f2ad756/RAM019176-1.jpg)
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Not another one of George's unwholesome reflections, is it? :-X
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Not another one of George's unwholesome reflections, is it? :-X
Oh my! :-* :gay:
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Man, I love that look!!
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Of George photographing his basses in the nude?
What a belated coming out.
Re the guitar: My first thought was whether someone was going for an "Elvis & his black guitars" look.
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I was primarily a product photographer , it was never a good idea to include a little self portrait on a reflective surface.
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Words of wisdom to reflect on.
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I was primarily a product photographer , it was never a good idea to include a little self portrait on a reflective surface.
Less so if the self portrait is a certain appendage!
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Less so if the self portrait is a certain appendage!
That's considered a bad thing?
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One of the guys in the shop was always trying to get little portraits in. We had a contract doing weekly flyers for a big grocery outfit. Sometimes we had to shoot kitchenware , which tended to be reflective. Everything was shot with large format view cameras so it was an easy fix. We generally had three sets on the go in the shop.
Before photoshop changed everything.
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That Trini is a beauty, too bad there won't be an EB-650 version.
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Less so if the self portrait is a certain appendage!
This - we were assured at the time - innocent mishap of many years ago somehow keeps dangling on here.
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Every time I'm feeling down I remind myself that there are at least a few people out there in the world that think of my dangling bits at least three or four times a year...
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That Trini is a beauty, too bad there won't be an EB-650 version.
Just like there never was a TBird equivalent to the FBird VII. They perceive bass players as boring.
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Every time I'm feeling down I remind myself that there are at least a few people out there in the world that think of my dangling bits at least three or four times a year...
We really pulled you out by it this time, Carlston, didn't we? :mrgreen:
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Every time I'm feeling down I remind myself that there are at least a few people out there in the world that think of my dangling bits at least three or four times a year...
Dangling Bits. The name of your new band! :-*
You'll thank me at some point!
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That Trini is a beauty, too bad there won't be an EB-650 version.
Much as I rate the EB-650 as the best hollow-body bass ever made (by any company), I was never madly in love with those Trini Lopez 'mirrored triangle'-look holes. But it doesn't do the sound any harm and is at least different.
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Much as I rate the EB-650 as the best hollow-body bass ever made (by any company), I was never madly in love with those Trini Lopez 'mirrored triangle'-look holes. But it doesn't do the sound any harm and is at least different.
At least they made it look distinct from other semihollow and hollow bodies.
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No basses this week. Just more LPs, SGs and 335s in questionable refins.
This one, I don't know what to think. 3TS over gold top and dark back... this is wrong on so many levels.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/1YC35nVinyTmEH6r4mgrkr/344b767b828ee034d0d07a473e3f313e/RAM019312-1.jpg)
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That doesn't look right. But it does have P90s, which is a plus.
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I don't see the problem. I think it's pretty.
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Did you rent out your guide dog, Rob?
(http://t1.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ48fv40SH3YinmLWwCeZhu67KENv1tkIf5W2DqtcyLXolg5hYGmmMW9mrAxK-RCcYryQfbt3GgWWgZEDBT8n0)
Those pups look verschrikkelijk on that thing!
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I like them. They go well with the binding and ring around the toggle.
And I like the idea of a goldtop as a basis for a burst. Gives it a nice depth.
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We really pulled you out by it this time, Carlston, didn't we? :mrgreen:
Dangling Bits. The name of your new band! :-*
You'll thank me at some point!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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And I like the idea of a goldtop as a basis for a burst. Gives it a nice depth.
I think it's a pretty cool finish too, but I'd like to see it with full-size 'buckers.
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No basses this week. Just more LPs, SGs and 335s in questionable refins.
This one, I don't know what to think. 3TS over gold top and dark back... this is wrong on so many levels.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/1YC35nVinyTmEH6r4mgrkr/344b767b828ee034d0d07a473e3f313e/RAM019312-1.jpg)
I don't see anything wrong with it!
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Me either. Looks attractive to me.
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My only complaint is that the burst doesn't cover the whole front. I'm not a fan of that sort of teardrop burst.
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Fender-type tricolor sunburst combined with Gibson's awful and mostly discontinued teardrop shape sunburst. The worst of both worlds.
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Thanks for holding fast, Dave!
Just terrible. It takes a lot to ruin a Les Paul look, but these guys unwittingly wrote the handbook.
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I kinda like it, but guitars and I don't really get on that well. :-*
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Ok with it , I recognize the Gibson style teardrop burst , but I think the traditional LP style burst works much better for that body shape.
I certainly wouldn’t describe it as horrible. And I kinda like the spray over gold! So I’m neither offended nor gobsmacked by it.
… how’s that for a polite Canadian response ?
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That was such a lovely, even-handed analysis,
Stewart, well-done, and you may sit down now!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTFfdw8XhjfczQEAt9fxD_09I_hZnLZGwjp2Q&usqp=CAU)
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SG Bass Natural Satin (https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Electric-Bass/MOD-RAM019393/Natural-Satin), 4 knobs. $1,899
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The mysterious ways of Gibson.
Why couldn't they just chose the obvious pattern for the four knobs? It's not like they never did that before... :rolleyes:
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The mysterious ways of Gibson.
Why couldn't they just chose the obvious pattern for the four knobs? It's not like they never did that before... :rolleyes:
I assumed a lot of these started out as factory screw-ups.
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The mysterious ways of Gibson.
Why couldn't they just chose the obvious pattern for the four knobs? It's not like they never did that before... :rolleyes:
They used the 4 existing holes (VVT+jack) and drilled a 4th hole.
I assumed a lot of these started out as factory screw-ups.
It's natural finish, I don't see what screw up they could have hidden. Usually screw-ups get a full refinish and sometimes a custom guard to hide routs that would show witness lines in the future had the guitar been refinished.
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They used the 4 existing holes (VVT+jack) and drilled a 4th hole.
Yeah I know. But why so awfully close to the original middle knob?
A normal diamond shaped pattern would have made much more sense.
(https://www.brooksbassguitars.com/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/ram019393-1_orig.jpeg)
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They would have to plug an existing hole for that. Apparently too much trouble for them. And with a natural finish it'd be impossible to hide.
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Yeah I know. But why so awfully close to the original middle knob?
A normal diamond shaped pattern would have made much more sense.
(https://www.brooksbassguitars.com/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/ram019393-1_orig.jpeg)
It's kind of in the split diamond shape. Probably not intentional, though.
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They would have to plug an existing hole for that. Apparently too much trouble for them. And with a natural finish it'd be impossible to hide.
Ah yes, I had the original postion of the middle knob wrong. I thought it was the one closest to the edge. But it is the pther one.
Probably got confused because they swapped the output and the third knob.
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Nice piece of furniture, very woody. Great for a hunting lodge. American Gothic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU8UfYdKHvs
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Nice piece of furniture, very woody. Great for a hunting lodge
It has a certain Guild JS II Bass vibe.
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-dks6ju/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/14556/145663/da54cddc-7a1b-5a75-aa11-804537a2f20c__25673.1529081693.jpg?c=2)
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Where are the oak leaves?
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Where are the oak leaves?
On every 4004LK
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Where are the oak leaves?
I was thinking it needed more foliage.
The four-knob SG bass would open up options for a simple two-band EQ if you were thus inclined. I'm sworn off active basses for life!
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Day 3, no takers.
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The mysterious ways of Gibson.
Why couldn't they just chose the obvious pattern for the four knobs? It's not like they never did that before... :rolleyes:
It has just accured to me that the knob layout is not very different from an EDS-1275.
(https://www.12fret.com/wp-content/gallery/gibson-eds1275c-cherry-1997-cons/gibson-eds1275c-cherry-1997-cons-full-front.jpg)
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/3rQgaBxYv30m34lXkufP98/2ccad526645fcabb1469f8afe6fe56bb/RAM019393-1.jpg)
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A SG style EB6 beginning at the 7 minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1AY3wbKDjs
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Another hodgepodge creation of the Mod Shop.
The back of the headstock looks rather sloppy, no?
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Trogly, no thanks. What a douche.
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Oh, there is that rather talkative young man again, lovely. He really should have become a radio host. The station would have done very, very well with all those commercial breaks for headache pills. "Twice the strength of Advil ... (or was it Tylenol?)" alright.
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Trogly, no thanks. What a douche.
i just watch it without sound to see things like this bass.
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Me too. Watch without sound and skip through the video to the part with bass.
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Me too. Watch without sound and skip through the video to the part with bass.
Amen. And it's easy to bash him, which is done all over this thread already. I posted the vid because I wanted to show the bass.
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Apparently a ton of people have been buying various Bass VIs and baritones.
You’d think they’d have some Epi six string basses out by now.
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Amen. And it's easy to bash him, which is done all over this thread already. I posted the vid because I wanted to show the bass.
I have nothing against Herr Trolly or whatever his name is, he just - our European readers will readily understand - reminds me of Troubadix, the Gallic bard of the Asterix & Obelix comic series, who always felt compelled to share his talent with an unsuspecting world ...
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9F0x45qkTR-doQowjHfMsZHFKu0_7XJQTQQ&usqp=CAU)
but even as a much loved member of the village community was occasionally in need of some light restraint.
(https://www.comedix.de/grafik/figuren/troubadix_gefesselt.jpg)
(https://www.suedkurier.de/storage/image/8/6/0/8/11808068_shift-644x0_1wmQwp_GcS1tG.jpg)
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https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Electric-Bass/MOD-RAM019394/Satin-Ebony-Fox
NR in "Satin Ebony Fox" (kind of like the Silver Fox finish Epi used on Coronets), ambered pearl guard, old script logo, amber knobs, TBird bridge and tailpiece. $2,299 seems like a good deal, right?
Best looking NR I've seen.
(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/7sKus0VK4T19jvC7Bo7xlj/b9f04ec31f32fe409310eb488447e1f9/RAM019394-1.jpg)(https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/1YPFIwlYx0B50qEthjZMOy/64c587818d4005561f3a8949a9ebc35e/RAM019394-2.jpg)
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Holy Crap! It has a two point from an Epiphone Vintage Pro bridgge!
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Alternative history in the making: No actual 60ies TBird ever had that logo. Total mismatch to the modern tuners.
Those amber knobs must appeal to anybody though.
Who is colorblind!
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Alternative history in the making: No actual 60ies TBird ever had that logo.
That's why they call it the mod collection.
But I do get your discomfort. I feel the same about Fender J's with spaghetti logos. There's just one NR to irritate you and zillions of wrong J's to freak me out.
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There is mods and then there is silly mods. Logo style does not influence sound.
The whole thing has so many mismatches, it's pawnshop more like."Hey Joe, what else do we have lying around in the workshop right now? We've really got to get rid of this stuff!"
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I happen to like it a lot. Poor taste, what can you do :)
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Alternative history in the making: No actual 60ies TBird ever had that logo. Total mismatch to the modern tuners.
Those amber knobs must appeal to anybody though.
Who is colorblind!
This the actual reason you don't "collect for fins" ;)
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I happen to like it a lot. Poor taste, what can you do :)
What can I do? Be ready to sacrifice my life anytime to protect your poor taste, Ilan, of course! BTDF - bad taste defense force, that's me!!! 8)
It's too hodgepode for me, the archaic logo, a 90ies (and even later) satin style fin on a 60ies bass, mixing chrome and nickel look hardware, the amber knobs, the antiquated stringholder bridge, the mother of toilet seat pg - it's like some lavish antipasti plate at an Italian restaurant,
(https://cdn.britannica.com/55/126755-050-CA533BFD/Antipasto-bruschetta-meats-olives-cheese-vegetables.jpg)
that always confuses me too!
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Close, but no cigar.
I am puzzled by the spacing of the bridge and the tailpiece. Can't think of any valid reason why they are so far apart?
And the mismatch of chrome of the pickups and nickel of the bridge is rather unfortunate too.
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the mismatch is because the Epiphone parts are Nickel with some chrome, I'm just happy to see them actually giving this a shot - Epiphone hardware on a Gibson body.
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Full price for a slapped together mismatch. And someone will buy it.
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"Gibson by Epiphone" - what is the world coming too?
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There is nothing wrong with the Epiphone two point bridge plus tailstop.
But they should have realised these are also available in chrome
https://www.philadelphialuthiertools.com/bridge-and-tailpieces/bass-bridges-and-tailpeices/thunderbird-bass-bridge-and-tailpiece-set-1963-1969/
(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-1lthcj/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2378/10690/apircatm0__22094.1635514495.jpg?c=2)
Having said that: the original Non Reverse Thunderbird also had chrome and nickel combined. ;D
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Bad taste and a blind eye for details are timeless.
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Someone's gotta buy that NR and add another tailpiece or two in between the bridge and existing tailpiece.
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Finally a two piece bridge, will miracles never cease.
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Multiple use too. :popcorn:
A TBird for the kitchen, no less.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SophisticatedMellowGalapagosmockingbird-max-1mb.gif)
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Hahaha ;D there is a whole lotta space between the bridge and the tailpiece. Will Gibson ever get it right? :rolleyes:
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Hahaha ;D there is a whole lotta space between the bridge and the tailpiece. Will Gibson ever get it right? :rolleyes:
Natürlich nicht. So eine dumme Frage. Ostfront !!!
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Why Germany almöst wön ze war ...
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Amen. And it's easy to bash him, which is done all over this thread already. I posted the vid because I wanted to show the bass.
I know that's why, and it's certainly your right. But I won't give him a minute of my time, even with the sound off. I won't help him monetize his YT channel.
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I think we should invite him over here so he can contribute. (ducking ...)
Does he write as much as he talks? ;D
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I'm sensing that some of you don't like it.
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$2300 and you get that cheapo matte finish where you can see the pores of the wood. No thanks. I like shiny things!
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I'm sensing that some of you don't like it.
Now don't get all defensive about it, Ilan! Be a man and dismiss our opinions.
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$2300 and you get that cheapo matte finish where you can see the pores of the wood. No thanks. I like shiny things!
Amen. I don't like the trend toward matte finishes in the past few years, and especially the open pore types.
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But I thought you all liked the DC Jr...
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But I thought you all liked the DC Jr...
I don't think so. Several people have said they didn't like it. Also, needless to say, if more people liked it, Gibson wouldn't be discontinuing it. I like it, but I tend to be an outlier in many things, including this, obviously.
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It was a great guitar as is for $599.00 but for over a grand, I would prefer gloss finish…………
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But I thought you all liked the DC Jr...
The DC Jr. cost less than half of that 'bird. ;) I think the Jr. is a bass with some very good bang for the buck.
We'll probably be seeing some of these mod collection basses at ridiculous flipper prices sitting on eBay, etc. for eternity at some point down the road. :rolleyes:
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But I thought you all liked the DC Jr.
But I'm with you, Ilan, don't despair! I like its sound, yet neither the LP Junior doublecut shape nor short scale basses in principle do much for me, I like long necks as a visual statement, I guess if you dig deep enough I'm a "size matters" guy. :mrgreen: But it's a coherent design and sound is more important than looks.
I also don't mind the open pore matte look (it can look good), but it's no doubt a more recent fashion fin (also pushed for economic reasons) and combining that with the original TBird egg slicer bridge and amber knobs doesn't do it for me at all. With a fin like that, that bass should have had the most modern hardware available.
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An old friend had an original double cut Jr guitar. At some point the horns had been cut off so it would look like a Vox teardrop. Later some very accurate mahogany horns were glued back on , and the guitar was once again refinished. Oddly enough the refin looked very similar to the finish on the Jr reissues. That poor thing had been to hell and back , but it had an incredible feel , and the P90 in it just killed. It was just an incredible little thing!
So when the Jr was released it brought back memories of that little beat up guitar…
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I don't remember seeing this one, but it's for sale on TB. I don't know what's "mod" about it. The matte black finish??? The seller put the Hipshot on there.
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/mod-shop-gibson-non-reverse-thunderbird-ebony-satin.1593784/ (https://www.talkbass.com/threads/mod-shop-gibson-non-reverse-thunderbird-ebony-satin.1593784/)
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/img_9940-jpg.4947189/)
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And managed to scratch the paint around the bridge when he installed it.
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Wait... what?
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(https://media1.giphy.com/media/BWD3CtcudWL28/200.webp?cid=ecf05e47mwsr1essm7jmr8ykq43v0sbzvp31ppfi0fy491yh&rid=200.webp&ct=g)
The eternal adolescent in me likes this! Cool look,
Mary-Janes will get stuck on you like flies in a net.
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I wonder what those pickups are. Looks like they are intended for multi-scale bass guitars.
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I'd like them to flicker in various patterns while the bass is being played - is that an option?
I have a hunch they stem from some secret underground IDF facility in the Negev desert.
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I'm surprised this bird isn't already winging its way to Germany.
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I'm surprised this bird isn't already winging its way to Germany.
AFAIK he hasn't bought anything new since his office moved and part of his collection went into storage.
This one is unique but no match for the Silly Purple Clown Bass.
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The Gibson bass raubkunst has temporarily gestoppt! Gott in Himmel!
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Alan!!!!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
PS: Dave is right, I've called a halt to compulsive Gibson bass collecting and haven't bought anything more recently other than the LP Junior Tribute (which I haven't regretted, one of the best short scales on the market). It was getting out of hand and burdening my heirs! And George is right as well, in my heyday, I would have gobbled that Spidey TBird up in a sec.
I still get tempted though. While you guys tend to rave about things that pretend to be vintage and emulate historic hardware, I like progress and attempting things differently. So the T.-Rex Brown Bird has some allure for me even though I don't own a single Pantera CD (and if I'm honest I don't even like Rex' trebly overdriven sound, but I'd like to hear what else that bass can do). An active TBird from Gibson has never existed before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK2R-cMvXFs
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but I'd like to hear what else that bass can do
Here's something... Still very bright and almost all with a pick, but at least he solos the individual pickups about 10 minutes in... with a very weird attempt at fingerstyle played right on the bridge after that :o ... and then finally turns the tone down around 12 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMkjfA_3dc
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Wait... what?
I like it, a chrome 3 point is the path to enlightenment!
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Here's something... Still very bright and almost all with a pick, but at least he solos the individual pickups about 10 minutes in... with a very weird attempt at fingerstyle played right on the bridge after that :o ... and then finally turns the tone down around 12 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMkjfA_3dc
That doesn't sound half-bad and the passive mode is not ridiculously different in sound and output to the active one.
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Has anyone ever seen Dagan and Russell Brand in a room together?
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I would much rather hang out with Dagon than Russell Brand. I would go get a chicken parmo with Dagan then hit up a few pubs up 'the toon'. Lockdown has turned Brand into a weirdo one stop short of being a cult leader.
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Yup, definitely an intellectual decline.