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Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 07:24:34 AM »
Jim, thanks for elaborating. Regardless of the reasons behind Mike Love's actions, aren't people who bought tickets expecting the reunion band? I expect many will be disappointed if they can't see the lineup they expected when they bought tickets. In this day and age, it wouldn't surprise me if class action lawyers get involved.

Re bass parts, there's no question that Carol Kaye played many of them, and that's never been disputed by the band. It's also a matter of record. No idea how many were written by Brian; AFAIK Carol still has good relations with the band and I would take her word for who did what.

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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2012, 07:41:14 AM »
"Then they fired him.  And sued him and each other.  Fun."

Shouldn't that be Fun Fun Fun?

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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2012, 10:03:32 PM »
One would hope it was Fun Fun Fun, but you know what happens when lawyers get involved. ;)

The 50th anniversary tour was booked through last week, and that was it. I suppose some people would think they were seeing the reunion band in the future, but I suspect a lot of people went to the reunion gigs hoping to see John Stamos. I don't suspect that, actually, as I heard at least a half dozen people wondering if he (AKA Uncle Jessie) would be there.  So who knows.  In a weird way, the Mike Love / Bruce Johnston band is really the Beach Boys, as that band has a continuous link back to the 80s band and always stayed on the road. Kind of the way you could go see the Glen Miller band in the 70s, and a handful of the guys were in the band before the war.  I bet the tickets are cheaper.

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Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2012, 10:10:34 PM »
Sounds like he did write the bass parts pretty much as recorded.

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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2012, 09:16:43 AM »
That clip from the Jack Benny show is pretty classic Benny stuff.  Both he and Bob Hope were along in years at that point (Benny was 71 and Hope was 62)  which to me makes it funnier.  I cracked up when Benny started ad-libbing near the end of the clip.
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:20 PM »
That's what made the clip so cool to me. Two aging legends of the entertainment world playing along with the kids for laughs.

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Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2012, 09:20:07 AM »
That does put things in perspective.

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« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2012, 11:07:20 AM »
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Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2012, 11:33:48 AM »
By Brian Wilson
October 9, 2012, 7:01 a.m.
The Beach Boys recent 50th anniversary tour reunited original members Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, David Marks and longtime member Bruce Johnston for the first time in almost two decades.

Near the end of the tour in London, and the day before the band was saluted with a new 50th anniversary exhibition at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles, Love announced that he and Johnston would continue touring under the Beach Boys’ name in his pre-anniversary edition of the band, minus Wilson, Jardine and Marks.

His announcement, which he said was issued to avoid confusion in smaller markets where the Love-Johnston band had been booked, caused a firestorm of publicity as some media outlets interpreted the move as Love firing Wilson, his cousin.

Love's response to the reaction, published exclusively in The Times on Saturday, stated among other things that he never fired Wilson and does not have the authority to do so, adding that even if he did have the authority, he never would fire the man considered the group’s creative leader.

Wilson and Jardine submitted the following response to Love’s letter, in Wilson’s words:

I've been asked to respond to a letter that my cousin Mike wrote to the L.A. Times regarding the circumstances of the last couple weeks and the confusion of the future of The Beach Boys. Normally I wouldn't respond to something like this, but because I love what the 50th has done for the band's image and its legacy, I feel I need to.

First, I want to say that the last few months have been some of the happiest in my life. Recording "That's Why God Made The Radio" was a dream come true, to be able to co-write and produce an album for the boys and have it so well received by fans all over the world was the best!

The tour that followed blew away all my expectations. We had a blast, the fans were so supportive and I loved being able to record and sing with the guys.  My only regret was that Carl and Dennis were not there to share this experience with us.

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Now on to the rumors: As far as I know I can't be fired--that wouldn't be cool. The negativity surrounding all the comments bummed me out. What's confusing is that by Mike not wanting or letting Al, David and me tour with the band, it sort of feels like we're being fired.

What's a bummer to Al and me is that we have numerous offers to continue, so why wouldn't we want to? We all poured our hearts and souls into that album and the fans rewarded us by giving us a No. 3 debut on the Billboard charts, and selling out our shows. We were all blown away by the response.

Al and I would like to be included in the continuous promotion of "That's Why God Made The Radio." That's what I've been doing for over a decade: making records and going out and supporting them. It's what I do. Capitol Records has been so cool to us this year in terms of supporting the 50th and I personally want to say thanks.


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Mike kept saying throughout the tour "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts," and both Al and I agree, which made us all think that he wanted to continue. We originally started out with 50 shows, but the success and the demand kept growing and we obliged.  No one knew in the beginning that this was going to be so rewarding and popular with our fans. Once we got cooking we were all stoked!

After Mike booked a couple of shows with Bruce, Al and I were, of course, disappointed. Then there was confusion in some markets when photos of me, Al and David and the 50th reunion band appeared on websites advertising his shows.

At that point my attorney merely suggested to Mike's attorney that a possible press release in those markets might be appropriate to stop the confusion, which was in no one's best interest. That's it, plain and simple, and a strategy was open for discussion, which never happened.

That’s why I was completely blindsided by his press release. I had no idea that it was coming out, since it was crafted by Mike's personal PR firm without my knowledge or approval. No one in my camp would have approved it or the timing.

I'm disappointed that Mike would now say that the release was done at the request of my representative. The first I heard about it was at the Grammy Museum event. We hadn't even discussed as a band what we were going to do with all the offers that were coming in for more 50th shows.

Al and I just assumed based on everyone's enthusiasm we would at least want to take those offers into consideration since we all knew about them. I mean, who wouldn't want to play the Hollywood Bowl again, Madison Square Garden and Wrigley Field? And what better way to celebrate New Year's Eve than with the 50th band? That would have blown the lid off things.

There were also offers for more shows in the U.K. and markets we weren't able to play during the tour. As I said before, it's my opinion that we should all go out together as the Beach Boys in support of all our new releases. We really weren't out on the road that long for an anniversary of this magnitude and I actually think we should make one last record together.

It's Al and my opinion that all of us together makes for a great representation of the Beach Boys.

While I appreciate the nice cool things Mike said about me in his letter, and I do and always will love him as my cousin and bandmate, at the same time I'm still left wondering why he doesn't want to continue this great trip we're on. Al and I want to keep going because we believe we owe it to the music.

That's it in a nutshell, all these conversations need to be between the shareholders, and I welcome Mike to call me.

In any case happy anniversary, I loved it and I think we knocked it out of the park for what it's worth.

Love and Mercy, 

Brian Wilson

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Re: Mike Love kicks everybody out of the Beach Boys
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2012, 06:38:03 PM »
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