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Gear Discussion Forums => Other Bass Brands => Topic started by: TBird1958 on October 27, 2016, 07:15:08 AM
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There's a bit of chat going on the TB Thunderbird club about these.
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/thunderbird-club.1056205/page-1008#post-19336534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=79&v=X6ym9CPP5Wo
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These are making waves on Basschat. It will be interesting to see what they look like in different colours.
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everything but the bridge.
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Funny how a design that was dead for decades seems to have taken on a new life not long after a bunch of knuckleheads at one website commissioned their own resurrection for sh*ts and giggles.
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I'm not impressed by the tone. Not at all.
Per Jow's website, it's "Designed in the UK." Huh? Translation: it's a cheap Chinese bass that he's trying to tie to the UK. Nothing against copies, but this was designed in Kalamazoo and Fullerton.
Website also says it's the "colour scheme of James Jameson's '59 Fender Precision Bass." Why? What does this have to do with Jamerson?
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I thought the tone in the vid was pretty good. Not something I'd want to be stuck with all the time, but certainly a usable growl.
The Jamerson thing is stupid, I'll giove you that.
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Latest is he's going the custom option way. What could go wrong? A guy in the UK ordering custom options from China with no physical presence there.
Except for the (poorly done) body shape/ pickguard it's a $150ish retail SX bass at best. With the Pound tanking it won't be very long before the price has to go up.
Be the first (and maybe the last) on your block, kids!
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From the JOW website:
"...a 'non reverse' Thunderbird bass, in short scale (30"), made famous by legendary players such as John Entwhistle (The Who) and Bill Wymen (The Rolling Stones) in the 60's & early 70's."
When did Wyman play a Thunderbird? As far as I know, he avoided long-scales whenever possible.
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I'm quite underwhelmed. Only positive thing I can say is that a non rev looks better in short scale than an rev.
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From the JOW website:
"...a 'non reverse' Thunderbird bass, in short scale (30"), made famous by legendary players such as John Entwhistle (The Who) and Bill Wymen (The Rolling Stones) in the 60's & early 70's."
When did Wyman play a Thunderbird? As far as I know, he avoided long-scales whenever possible.
Clearly his research skills are right up there with his proof-reading skills. Hopefully his QA skills are a bit sharper once these basses land from China.
Wyman didn't play a Thunderbird. If anything they are the antithesis of his preferred bass types, being not only long-scale but large generally. He might be thinking of Brian Jones' Firebird usage?
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It is everything I don't want a Non Reverse Thunderbird to be:
Short scale
Maple
Bolt on
Tort pickguard
Jazz burst
Wrong body shape (bottom looks totally straight)
Wrong headstock shape
And that pickup doesn't sound very convincing either.
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It would be interesting to see what pickup they are using, but I wager it will be microphonic poop.
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It would be interesting to see what pickup they are using, but I wager it will be microphonic poop.
Just like an original 60s Firebird pup? ... except those weren't poop (microphonic as all heck tho).
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One word. Poop.
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I would get one for half the price to make a VI type instrument (it has a 43mm nut, so its ok for 6 strings), but I find it way too expensive for that.
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It's a non-reverse non-Bird. Wrong scale, bad tone, incorrect body, awful sunburst.
Ergo, I expect someone will tell us how many Talkbassers have bought one and raved about how it's better than a real Gibson.
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I don't trust modern basses with those additional screws at the front of the bridge. To me it suggests they are using crap wood, and need all the reinforcement they can get.
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I don't trust modern basses with those additional screws at the front of the bridge. To me it suggests they are using crap wood, and need all the reinforcement they can get.
The front screws in a bass bridge are basically ornamental. That part's in compression, there's no stress on the screws. The back screws are in tension, they're being pulled out of the wood by the strings.
Your 'not trusting' has nothing to do with that nor does 'crap wood', whatever you consider that to be. It's basic structural engineering, i.e. physics.
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Your 'not trusting' has nothing to do with that nor does 'crap wood', whatever you consider that to be. It's basic structural engineering, i.e. physics.
Cool.
Maybe its like the issue many have with zero frets. People associate them with crap budget instruments, so think that a zero fret is automatically a cheap appointment on a cheap instrument. Likewise those Chinese high-mass bridges that screw down at the four corners tend to turn up only on cheap instruments.
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The front screws in a bass bridge are basically ornamental. That part's in compression, there's no stress on the screws. The back screws are in tension, they're being pulled out of the wood by the strings.
Yeah, I had a little chuckle the first time I saw those on a cheapo Ibanez I was setting up for a friend's kid.
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As a thunderbird clone, I think it looks dreadful. But as a homage to old Teisco and cheap beginner guitars of the 60s, it kind of nails the look.
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Some things just shouldn't be. Vegan steaks and short scale TBirds are two of them.
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Some things just shouldn't be. Vegan steaks and short scale TBirds are two of them.
Germans trying to be funny is one too.
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Germans trying to be funny is one too.
Nah, I think Germans are funny when they try to be funny! :P
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We always say the smallest, thinnest book on earth is The Great Book of German Humour.
But I know a lot of funny Germans :D
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Gert Fröbe was funny. :vader:
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Gert Fröbe was funny. :vader:
Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines...with manual in hand, grunting martial music on his way to the plane...
(https://loopit.in/photo/5OkN4Q7JDB4:hq/default.jpg)