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Title: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: TBird1958 on October 06, 2013, 11:39:56 AM

 This past weekend I got visit with my buddy Bill, he's a model railroader and, being originally from Galesburg, Il. quite the vintage car guy.
This is his 1966 Pontiac GTO, with a 389ci Tri-Power motor, completely restored - at one point the entire car and engine were parts. Engine is all rebuilt, the interior all restored, body metal all straightened and repainted, bumpers and trim re-chromed (This is why chrome rules, get it?) and of course a custom plate. Bill's dedication to a great job is amazing....and this isn't his only restoration, there are 3 '70's era Firebirds and at least 7 '60's - '70s era BSA and Triumph motorcycles in the garage as well!

Champagne Gold with factory wheels and white walls...........He's had some Red Lines on it too.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016242_zps04e9719a.jpg)

Nice plate!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016265_zpsa3125115.jpg)

U.S. metal at it's best!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016227_zps4c2c31d9.jpg)

No black hardware here!
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016247_zps57d5c8d9.jpg)

Super clean interior too.
 (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016259_zps8c22a683.jpg)
  
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Hörnisse on October 06, 2013, 12:13:15 PM

Super clean interior too.
 (http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/veronicasteed/1381016259_zps8c22a683.jpg)
  

Very cool!  BTW, who's the dude taking this picture?  ;)
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Highlander on October 06, 2013, 12:23:31 PM
Mark's older brother...
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: gweimer on October 06, 2013, 01:14:32 PM
Nice car!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: TBird1958 on October 06, 2013, 01:19:21 PM
Very cool!  BTW, who's the dude taking this picture?  ;)


  ;D


 Sorry!  Just me in my civvies! Sportin' an au natural high n tight!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: jumbodbassman on October 06, 2013, 01:34:56 PM
Really sweet.   

Had a red 67 way back when till that telephone pole kicks its ass.....

Car was a blast to drive in a straight line.   Cornering was not considered that important back then...
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: TBird1958 on October 06, 2013, 02:40:21 PM

 I have driven this car just once, needless to say it was exhilerating as all hell to step on the gas pedal, hear the Rawr and get pushed back in the seat. You just can't come up on a curve unexpectedly!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Barklessdog on October 06, 2013, 03:22:24 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Hörnisse on October 06, 2013, 04:14:36 PM

  ;D


 Sorry!  Just me in my civvies! Sportin' an au natural high n tight!

It's funny, I always fantasized (is that the right word?  ;D ) that you always walked around everywhere in your stage clothes!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 06, 2013, 04:17:22 PM
Love it!  I had a Barrier Blue '66 GTO from 1970-73 (when a moron in Denver ran into it.)  Very fun car to drive, nice power (398 4-bbl with 4-speed and positrac). For its era, handling was decent.  I see that your friend has the engine the correct Pontiac color, too!he gas mileage.  

I'd love one again, and hang the gas mileage.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Dave W on October 06, 2013, 08:58:08 PM
That is one fine machine!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 06, 2013, 09:23:23 PM
I have stories about that GTO....great fun car.

I taught two girlfriends how to drive a stick with my '66...it had so much torque that if you put it in first gear and did not step on the brake, when you let out the clutch it just went!

And there was the time I was headed into a corner on a twisty Idaho road and the return spring fell off the throttle linkage....when I shifted down from 4 to 3, it turned out to be a power shift.  Got my toe under the gas pedal and pried it up in time to make it around the corner.

I had a '66, my brother had a '67 with the tri-power carbs, and my friend had a '66 Tempest with the GTO 389 in it.  All three had dual cherry bomb mufflers...we'd fire them up and let them idle side by side.  It sounded fantastic.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Chris P. on October 07, 2013, 01:18:59 AM
wow! It needs a matching gold T-bird!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: gearHed289 on October 07, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Beautiful! The engine looks great, even if it's not the shade of blue I'm used to.  ;)
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: TBird1958 on October 07, 2013, 10:42:41 AM
Beautiful! The engine looks great, even if it's not the shade of blue I'm used to.  ;)


 Tom even tho he's a diehard Pontiac guy, Bill has a 2011 Lime Green Mustang hiding in one the garage stalls too.....I really dig that shade of blue of yours!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Hörnisse on October 07, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
I love me some lime green!  I know it is no muscle car (compared to the classics).

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2woc3tv.jpg)
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 07, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
This one is the same color mine was...

(http://www.collectorcarads.com/Picture1/GTOandCougar046.jpg)

But I agree, that green is VERY cool!!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: TBird1958 on October 07, 2013, 12:51:51 PM


 I need (another!) Thunderbird bass in that blue!


Note how cool it looks with CHROME trim  ;D
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 07, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
Nice idea!!

And not even the philistines amongst us would aver that "Barrier Blue" looks purple.

As if I would have owned a purple car.......

Remember, car paint is where Leo's guitar finishes came from.  It's pretty easy to work with.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: eb2 on October 07, 2013, 10:25:12 PM
I had a 66 Tempest. I grabbed a 4bbl intake from a Cat 389 in a junkyard and did some cookbook hopping up. H.O Racing had built 326 drag cars.  It was a great ride and could really screw. I still miss it.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: chromium on October 08, 2013, 06:23:15 PM
Wow Mark- that GTO is gorgeous! 

I just finished replacing the entire cooling and charging system in my 76 280z (semi-daily driver), and after being hunched over that thing and contorting under it for that long - I feel like I want to curl up into a fetal position and die.  I really admire people with the tenacity and stamina needed to pull a project like that off.  Amazing.

(This is why chrome rules, get it?)

I get it!  Check out the new "shoes" for my other project:

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/auto/2013/1008131720a.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/auto/2013/1008131720a.jpg.html)

Getting the '38 (hopefully) ready for some winter fun!  Picked up some restored tru-spokes for it- can't resist the bright, shiny objects, and felt a change of pace was in order.  Still need to get some adapters for them, and some Coker 520 wide-whites (aka South Phoenix snow tires  ;)).
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Highlander on October 08, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
... Sportin' an au natural high n tight!

You mean ... you mean that ... that gorgeously long black with purple highlights hair isn't real ... ?  :o

...  I really admire people with the tenacity and stamina needed to pull a project like that off.  Amazing.

I think it's well known round here that I have the mental stamina to undertake such squirrels...?

Did I just say squirrels...?

(beware the cabin chrome fever ...) ;D
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2013, 09:41:52 AM
Wow Mark- that GTO is gorgeous! 

I just finished replacing the entire cooling and charging system in my 76 280z (semi-daily driver), and after being hunched over that thing and contorting under it for that long - I feel like I want to curl up into a fetal position and die.  I really admire people with the tenacity and stamina needed to pull a project like that off.  Amazing.


I have the head off my 1983 280ZX Turbo and will drop it off in Denver with a specialist later today.  I need a couple of broken off exhaust studs removed, and may have him port the head for improved breathing.  I'm NOT looking forward to putting it back together - it was a really difficult disassembly.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: chromium on October 09, 2013, 05:09:03 PM
I have the head off my 1983 280ZX Turbo and will drop it off in Denver with a specialist later today.  I need a couple of broken off exhaust studs removed, and may have him port the head for improved breathing.  I'm NOT looking forward to putting it back together - it was a really difficult disassembly.

Praying that I don't have to do that anytime soon - good luck with it!  The next major thing I need to address is the struts, suspension bushings (still original, and gettin' sloppy), and wheel bearings.  The trans (5 speed from a 200sx) also developed a leak, and so I'll have to deal with that soon as well.

But for now- it's alive again!  Had to go into the office today, and took it on the 66mi round trip voyage.  I really missed driving it this past week.  Seems like invariably, there is always one part that is a week away from me- in this case the water pump.  Good news is that it was only $22 from NAPA  ;D  (wish my wife's car offered those kind of pleasant surprises!)

It was really fun working on it this time, since my older son (10yrs old) was out helping.  He was handling the wrench when possible, scraping off old gaskets, making new ones (rtv), installing thermostat, hoses, slipping the new belts on, etc...  After we were all done, I gave him the keys and let him fire it up.  He had the biggest grin!!
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2013, 07:13:32 PM
Praying that I don't have to do that anytime soon - good luck with it!  The next major thing I need to address is the struts, suspension bushings (still original, and gettin' sloppy), and wheel bearings.  The trans (5 speed from a 200sx) also developed a leak, and so I'll have to deal with that soon as well.


Glad your son enjoyed helping.  That's a great gift to him -showing him that he can do this stuff.

Struts are actually easy - I did mine with Monroe shocks (which stink) then removed the Monroes and discarded them.  I installed Tokico shocks in the struts and HIGHLY recommend them!  My suggestion - remove the strut as a unit, deliver it to a shop and have them remove the spring and change out the shock.  Safer for you.

I have a full set of poly bushings for the ZX in my garage but haven't installed them yet.

Wheel bearings are easy - less than an hour each side.  Your son deserves to learn the joys of packing bearings by hand.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: chromium on October 09, 2013, 07:36:01 PM
Wheel bearings are easy - less than an hour each side.  Your son deserves to learn the joys of packing bearings by hand.

Yeah - we're doing that on the old Buick now!  He'll be an old pro at it when we get to the Datsun.  :)

Thanks for the info on the struts (re: avoid Monroe).  Somewhere I think I still have some of the spring compressors to disassemble them, but I like your idea better.

The previous owner had installed some Tokico springs, but I'm not sure what the cartridges are.  It sits really low, and I just want to tighten up the ride a bit.  Planning to grab a set of the poly bushings too.

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/auto/datsun/DSC02123.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/auto/datsun/DSC02123.jpg.html)
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: Pilgrim on October 09, 2013, 08:37:01 PM
It's not a '66 GTO, but it's what I have.....

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Cars/280%20ZX%20Turbo/P5010129.jpg)
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: gweimer on October 10, 2013, 07:40:13 AM
Yeah - we're doing that on the old Buick now!  He'll be an old pro at it when we get to the Datsun.  :)

Thanks for the info on the struts (re: avoid Monroe).  Somewhere I think I still have some of the spring compressors to disassemble them, but I like your idea better.

The previous owner had installed some Tokico springs, but I'm not sure what the cartridges are.  It sits really low, and I just want to tighten up the ride a bit.  Planning to grab a set of the poly bushings too.

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/auto/datsun/DSC02123.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/auto/datsun/DSC02123.jpg.html)

My old singer/guitarist LOVES those 280Z/ZX.  He sold a Vette to get one, and I think he still has one.  That, and the Lincoln and Jaguar.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: nofi on October 10, 2013, 07:48:11 AM
never had a GTO but i dusted a few with my 68 roadrunner. :) mine looked like this. the black ones anyway.  :-[what is all this crap that popped up? ish... ???

https://www.google.com/search?q=1968+roadrunner&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iL5WUpHiCcW8qgHw_YDYAw&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=647&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=h_PAosWi9F93rM%3A%3BJE44whwFC8UKTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252FRoadrunners%252F1968%252F1968Roadrunner1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252F1968Roadrunner.htm%3B525%3B202https://www.google.com/search?q=1968+roadrunner&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iL5WUpHiCcW8qgHw_YDYAw&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=647&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=h_PAosWi9F93rM%3A%3BJE44whwFC8UKTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252FRoadrunners%252F1968%252F1968Roadrunner1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252F1968Roadrunner.htm%3B525%3B202https://www.google.com/search?q=1968+roadrunner&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iL5WUpHiCcW8qgHw_YDYAw&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=647&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=h_PAosWi9F93rM%3A%3BJE44whwFC8UKTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252FRoadrunners%252F1968%252F1968Roadrunner1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252F1968Roadrunner.htm%3B525%3B202https://www.google.com/search?q=1968+roadrunner&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iL5WUpHiCcW8qgHw_YDYAw&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=647&dpr=1#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=h_PAosWi9F93rM%3A%3BJE44whwFC8UKTM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252FRoadrunners%252F1968%252F1968Roadrunner1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.eastohiocoolcars.com%252FPlymouth%252F1968Roadrunner.htm%3B525%3B202
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: gearHed289 on October 10, 2013, 08:22:09 AM
It's not a '66 GTO, but it's what I have.....

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Cars/280%20ZX%20Turbo/P5010129.jpg)

Man, that thing's in nice shape! Totally got that 80s "futuristic" look. An old guitarist of mine used to carry a Marshall 4x12 in the back of one of these. Might have been a 4 seater though actually.
Title: Re: '66 Pontiac GTO
Post by: chromium on October 10, 2013, 08:38:04 AM
An old guitarist of mine used to carry a Marshall 4x12 in the back of one of these. Might have been a 4 seater though actually.

Can't vouch for a Mashall, but an Ampeg 410 fits! ;D

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/auto/datsun/DSC02142.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/auto/datsun/DSC02142.jpg.html)