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Title: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2013, 07:29:53 AM
I finally got round to installing the Gotoh Res-o-lites on my Epiphone Jack Casady Signature.
The pegholes were too wide for the Gotoh bushings, so I had to fix that first. I used two component car filler to make the holes a nice snug fit.

While I was at it, I cut off the top end of the headstock and gave it a Gibsonized look  ;).

Neckdive is cured now  :thumbsup:



(https://sphotos-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1238944_10201953038612608_1692270017_n.jpg)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Pilgrim on September 08, 2013, 09:26:43 AM
looks very nice.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Nocturnal on September 08, 2013, 09:41:58 AM
 :thumbsup:  That headstock looks better than the Epi version for sure.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: clankenstein on September 08, 2013, 05:00:01 PM
very cool. a much better look i reckon.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: drbassman on September 09, 2013, 08:25:43 AM
Very nice work.  I didn't know they had neck dive problems.  Those tuners make a big difference.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: nofi on September 09, 2013, 10:21:21 AM
i think the original headstock looked better. didn't you just take some value away from the jack to make it look more gibson? i don't think i would buy a bass that's had the body tampered with in that manner. my opinion.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Dave W on September 09, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
i think the original headstock looked better. didn't you just take some value away from the jack to make it look more gibson? i don't think i would buy a bass that's had the body tampered with in that manner. my opinion.

Some people would agree. I think Rob is less concerned about resale and more concerned about making the bass more playable for him.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Highlander on September 09, 2013, 02:28:16 PM
I think it's like the "tribute" work on the Bach's... Tom's right, per-se, re the value, but perception is all that is and post perception most people tend to prefer the shape of the Gibson as opposed to the Epi head...
I value function above form and I'd sacrifice form for function any day... but if you're asking me for advice... sheesh... pass the squirrel will ya... ;)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 09, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
I understand what you're saying Nofi.
But I already did an irreversible modification to the body years ago; I took out the original Electar pickup and put a Gibson Lo-z bas pickup in. To make that fit I had to cut away some of the top of the body. No regrets to this day.

I'm not really interested in the resale value of this bass because I don't plan on selling it.
It is one of my main weapons of choice for gigs and recordings, so I prefer a better sound and better balance over original looks.

The shape of the headstock is bit of a nod to the Les Paul Signature Bass. I don't think it really makes a big difference for the balance  ;)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Lightyear on September 09, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
I like it, though I understand the value argument as well.

But, here, there is somewhat of a tradition for basses to be put "under the saw"  ;D
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: clankenstein on September 09, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
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But, here, there is somewhat of a tradition for basses to be put "under the saw"  Grin
or blunt chisel in my case...(what extra pickup?)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 10, 2013, 12:08:11 AM
irriversible damage  :mrgreen:

(http://www.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/4903691_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Pilgrim on September 10, 2013, 05:45:42 AM
Beautiful work!
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: FrankieTbird on September 10, 2013, 01:38:04 PM

Very nice work there.  Aren't those tuners available in two different shaft diameters?  Do you have a picture of the back of the headstock?
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 10, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
You can only choose between long or short shaft type. The diameter is the same on both.

(http://www.g-gotoh.com/domestic/dimensions/gb528s-dim.jpg)

(http://www.g-gotoh.com/domestic/dimensions/gb528-dim.jpg)


I actually ordered the  GB528S (S for short). But they sent me the GB528 (long). Not a big deal.


When I get the chance I'll make a pic of the backside of the headstock too.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on September 10, 2013, 09:48:00 PM
I think the long shaft tuners look better anyway. Your JCS is a stunner. Epi's are made for improving.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2013, 10:14:05 AM
What PBG said
It is a hot looking bass.
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: chromium on September 11, 2013, 04:16:03 PM
Always liked this bass!  That pickup just "fits" IMO - both visually, and I'd bet audibly as well.

Some of the Japan-made Epis had that headstock shape (e.g. the EB-3s), and so it doesn't look out of place to me here.

Nice work!


(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k125/0chromium0/forums/eb-related/a687_3.jpg) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/0chromium0/media/forums/eb-related/a687_3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 12, 2013, 02:46:19 AM
Some of the Japan-made Epis had that headstock shape (e.g. the EB-3s), and so it doesn't look out of place to me here.

That's what I figured too  ;)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 12, 2013, 06:43:48 AM
Very nice work there.  Aren't those tuners available in two different shaft diameters?  Do you have a picture of the back of the headstock?


here you go:

(http://www.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/8460684_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Rob on September 13, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
Even have one of Carlo's trees in there  ;D
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: copacetic on September 16, 2013, 04:55:56 AM
I think the Gibson headstock nod to the LP Sig is a great idea on the JC Sig. What was the difference in weight between the 2 sets of keys?  What is the main difference in that LO Z to the Electar? I suppose the 3 position impedence switch fully functions?  Also inspired by that key change in weight mod I'm thinking it might make the difference in the neck dive I have on my 7 /14 lb. Fender '55 CS P that has neck dive. The Keys have the long shaft which looks good on that old headstock. Where did you order them from?
Title: Re: cured neckdive Epi JCS
Post by: Basvarken on September 16, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
I think the Gibson headstock nod to the LP Sig is a great idea on the JC Sig. What was the difference in weight between the 2 sets of keys?  What is the main difference in that LO Z to the Electar? I suppose the 3 position impedence switch fully functions?  Also inspired by that key change in weight mod I'm thinking it might make the difference in the neck dive I have on my 7 /14 lb. Fender '55 CS P that has neck dive. The Keys have the long shaft which looks good on that old headstock. Where did you order them from?


The GB528 that I have on the JCS weigh 59.2g/pcs (see chart below)

(http://www.g-gotoh.com/machine-heads_img/bass/weight-en.jpg)

You may want to install the GB640 which is more vintage correct to the 55 P bass. Looks like this:

(http://www.g-gotoh.com/international/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/GB640.jpg)



The old Gibson Lo-z Pickup sounds more authoritative. Bigger dynamic range. More body.
I found the Electar a little bit bland / meek in comparison.



The three position rotary switch actually works, yes. You can choose the actual coiltaps coming straight from the pickup.
So it does not control an impedance transformer like the original Epiphone JCS.
The result however, is the same; you can choose the impedance.

I ordered the Gotoh Res-o-lites through a friend of mine (Peter "Peterbuilt" Boer) who is also a member of LBO. He ordered straight from Hosco.