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Title: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: TBird1958 on August 17, 2013, 02:10:06 PM

 Speaking of inexpensive - non Gibson Thunderbirds

The body looks a little thick, but I kinda still like it.............I have a warm spot for Ho's.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPECTOR-NEW-LEGEND-4X-CUSTOM-1-OFF-BASS-FROM-GUITARS-FOR-THE-STARS/111143319123?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17060%26meid%3D639482404515994922%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7917%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160764557%26#ht_0wt_0
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 17, 2013, 02:16:24 PM
It took me a remarkably long time to actually see a face in that finish! Yeah I like them ho's to Mark.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Lightyear on August 17, 2013, 02:43:36 PM
Not a finish - vinyl car wrap.  This is a semi - permanent deal.  This stuff is done on sticky back car wrap vinyl with an inkjet plotter.  This bass cost them about $2.00 in material - the plotter put them back 15 to 40K and took about 3 minutes to print.  A good installer would take about 20 minutes to install and trim it.  I have to hand to these guys for finding a secondary market for a fairly common technology.  The adhesive is fairly aggressive but I think on modern finish you'd be able to clean it off and be back to stock in about an hours time. 

If anyone wants to do this just save your image as a PDF and find any sign or graphic shop - bass sized piece should be less than $20.00.  I wouldn't stick this on a nitro finish but a modern poly would fair OK.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: TBird1958 on August 17, 2013, 02:51:58 PM


 Good to know.........

I'd love to change my Greco into something more visually appealing than the stock 'burst.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Lightyear on August 17, 2013, 03:10:19 PM
Just think of it as high class contact paper.  Seriously, if you have something you like just figure out how big you need it have and have it printed.  You would trim the out line and roll it on from one side - the rest you could cut after the fact.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: godofthunder on August 17, 2013, 04:25:49 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmm in my world contact paper is not a decorating option.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Nocturnal on August 17, 2013, 04:41:25 PM
On their Facebook page they show one with a Creature from the Black Lagoon movie poster as the top. I think that's pretty cool, but I've always loved those old Creature movies since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on August 17, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Decaled or not, $700 for a low-end Korean Spector is way too much.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 17, 2013, 05:30:21 PM
If vinyl wrap makes it a "custom 1 off" then pretty soon anything with a decal will suddenly become a "custom" instrument.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Highlander on August 18, 2013, 01:56:25 AM
Does it make a difference to the tone...?
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Lightyear on August 18, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
Does it make a difference to the tone...?

Certainly, if you use the old school, hard to procure, cellulose based vinyl from the fifties the sound would would be much better  :P ;)
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Highlander on August 18, 2013, 02:24:58 PM
[Kilgore] I love the smell of vinyl in the morning... [/Kilgore]
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 18, 2013, 07:55:40 PM
Is this the same stuff Fender Japan used on those Foto Flame guitars years ago? That was some kind of vinyl wrap with a photo image of flame maple on it.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on August 19, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
Foto Flame was much thinner than this stuff. It had an almost water decal-like thickness and texture.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Rob on August 19, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
Foto Flame was much thinner than this stuff. It had an almost water decal-like thickness and texture.

It was almost like the mfd covered console stereos in the 60's
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Highlander on August 19, 2013, 01:55:52 PM
Foto Flame was much thinner than this stuff. It had an almost water decal-like thickness and texture.

No doubt resulted in a smoother tone... ;)
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: planetgaffnet on August 20, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
Is this the same stuff Fender Japan used on those Foto Flame guitars years ago? That was some kind of vinyl wrap with a photo image of flame maple on it.

The Foto flame process effectively put a transfer onto the body and then clear coat poly over it.  Never owned one...not a Fender fan really (despite having a 1979 Precision as my main bass for years before coming over to the dark side).
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: slinkp on August 20, 2013, 08:42:04 AM
Just think of it as high class contact paper.  Seriously, if you have something you like just figure out how big you need it have and have it printed.  You would trim the out line and roll it on from one side - the rest you could cut after the fact.

Interesting. How durable is this stuff?
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: TBird1958 on August 20, 2013, 09:06:00 AM

 It's the same stuff that they wrap vehicals with - I've never looked at it close up, nor do really know anything about it. One guy on TB wrapped his Epi T Bird up in it - looked like the Texs state flag.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Lightyear on August 20, 2013, 04:33:51 PM
It's fairly durable stuff - it's made to be UV resistant and to take abuse from the road _ rain, ice/snow, dirt etc.  It's not forever though - the color can be worn off and it will fade eventually.  I would think it would be a two to five year deal depending on conditions- YMMV.

I work on some of the hardware that can print this stuff so I have a fair amount on knowledge on the production side of this and good knowledge of application.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on August 20, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
Fender's Foto finishes certainly were much more fragile than most anything else at the time. The instruments were MIJ, made really well, and sounded gorgeous, but in order to show off the faux flame, the poly topcoat was much thinner and prone to breaking and flaking off and taking streaks of Foto sticker with it. Every single one of them I played was a great bass, but about half of them looked like they had a 30+ year-old laquer finish flaking off and taking the "flame" with it. They were priced reasonably, made exceptionally well other than finish, and sounded like their ancestors two generations prior. The average durability of the finish for players regularly gigging looked to be about three years. Don't forget about the "Hamburglar" patterns on the backs of the necks!

(http://mob84.photobucket.com/albums/k23/beachkos1/Hamburglar/62Hamburgler.jpg)
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Dave W on August 20, 2013, 10:31:40 PM
I remember that some people thought the Hamburglar pattern was put there deliberately. It was really just a photo of a flat flamed board. Wrapping it around the back curve of the neck made it look that way.
Title: Re: Spector Thunderbird
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on August 21, 2013, 10:38:28 PM
I saw one with a different neck pattern that was just a bunch of smaller "Hamburglars" all the up the back of the neck of slightly warying sizes that looked WAY more like Hamburglar than any of the pics I've been able to find recently. A few even had the mask, nose, hat and mouth clearly defined. It was an orange Jazz.