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Title: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on January 15, 2015, 02:12:18 PM
Trading my Cataldo Eighter to an early customer for this:

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/IMG_0361_zpsc7cde013.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/IMG_0361_zpsc7cde013.jpg.html)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/IMG_0362_zps7c579d74.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/IMG_0362_zps7c579d74.jpg.html)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/IMG_0364_zps61aa407a.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/IMG_0364_zps61aa407a.jpg.html)

I'd prefer a blonde mahogany, been looking for a while but none has turned up.  I'm sure they'll start coming out of the woodwork now...
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Dave W on January 15, 2015, 09:17:51 PM
Looks to be in very nice shape. The ash seems to be much less common than the brown stained mahogany finish. I've never seen one in a blond finish mahogany.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on January 16, 2015, 06:24:38 AM
It does seem to be in good shape except for the less yellowing on the back where stickers were removed.  I'm a little concerned about weight, late 70s ash bodies are generally heavy IME.  The cherry mahogany one I had for a few days was very light but balanced great.  Everything is original except for the TRC...WTF?
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/IMG_0363_zpsbb148dd3.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/IMG_0363_zpsbb148dd3.jpg.html)

I guess technically the mahogany ones were white:
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/guild-b301-bass-630-80_zps80813ee7.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/guild-b301-bass-630-80_zps80813ee7.jpg.html)
They're out there but more than I want to pay for the condition they're in.

While searching I did see a blonde ash one pictured.  It was really sharp but I can't find it again.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Pilgrim on January 16, 2015, 09:11:42 AM
I had two thoughts looking at it:

1) Purty!

2) Bet it's heavy.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 16, 2015, 09:25:27 AM
I had the stained Mahogany and the bass was light overall but unbalanced because of the heavy tuners and large headstock combined with location of the strap pin. I would think the heavier ash body might be a better compliment to the neck for balance. If anyone's looking for my old B301 it should be up on the GC used listings in the Nashua NH store.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Nocturnal on January 16, 2015, 05:13:57 PM
You were saying one would show up:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1977-Guild-B-301-Bass-Guitar-W-Original-Case-Fantastic-Pro-Set-Up-/301490220358?pt=Guitar&hash=item463237ad46

Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Dave W on January 16, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
I have seen the white ones before. Ali McMordie played a white B-302 in Stiff Little Fingers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiP_mOMMe_g
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on January 17, 2015, 06:12:19 AM
I saw that one last week, Andy.  I thought it was a little too expensive for the condition.  I'm trying to enforce a 'one in one out' bass acquisition program this year, so a straight trade is ideal.

Thanks for the video, Dave.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on February 12, 2015, 08:57:19 AM
Arrived about 10 days ago, I've had other pressing matters including meeting my grandson and celebrating his first birthday (same day as my mom's 93rd) down south with family.

Here's a first look.  Weight is 9.8 lbs, body is 1.5 inches thick, balance is perfect.  The single coil DiMarzio really provides a wide range of tone.  I'm thinking of getting ThunderBucker to clone it for my builds.  I think DiMarzio only did it for Guild.  It 's sort of Jazz pole magnets in a fat short P-90 coil, goes from ultra trebly to very deep.  I'm digging it!

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/P1070330P_zps3aecc6c3.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/P1070330P_zps3aecc6c3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: gearHed289 on February 12, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
Ah, so many basses, so little cash. I would love a mahogany 302. Hell, I could tell people the B stands for BOSS.  ;D But then I'd have to paint it orange...

I did not know DiMarzio made those pickups.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Highlander on February 13, 2015, 02:23:40 AM
Looks minty...
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Pilgrim on February 13, 2015, 07:58:59 AM
That has a layer of cool applied all over it.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on February 13, 2015, 09:05:13 AM
Ah, so many basses, so little cash. I would love a mahogany 302. Hell, I could tell people the B stands for BOSS.  ;D But then I'd have to paint it orange...

I did not know DiMarzio made those pickups.

Luckily(?) my event horizon is sooner than yours so I have less restraint with buying what I want when I want it.  I hope you come across one when the time is right, Tom.

According to Guild literature Dimarzio made the pups.  Just a little taller than a 60s TBird humbucker, less than 5/8". It threads into a brass plate, mahogany shimmed on the bridge side to keep the angle correct.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/P1070331P_zps25f77990.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/P1070331P_zps25f77990.jpg.html)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/02/P1070333P_zps1ccf304d.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/02/P1070333P_zps1ccf304d.jpg.html)

Looks minty...

Very close.  Just stripped it to do a general detailing and fret dress.  Pickguard is more bakelite-like than on any other bass I own.  Really polishes up nicely.

That has a layer of cool applied all over it.

As well as a residue of tobacco goo from living in North Carolina most of its life!
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: 4stringer77 on February 13, 2015, 10:52:10 AM
They're nice pickups and definitely unique. I felt like they sounded best when clean. The overdriven characteristic seemed more harsh in a similar way to the split coil mfd pickup I experienced with G&L. Glad to hear the bass balances well, guess my hunch about the ash body was right. My hog B-301 was even lighter than yours overall but much more imbalanced. I'd rather have a heavier bass with better balance. Will you be keeping the chobester on there?
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on February 13, 2015, 03:08:47 PM
I didn't have a problem with the mahogany one I had.  I wear basses very low and that helps counter neckdive IMO.  'Chobester', whatever it means, is staying until I find a correct B-301A cover or make one.

Micromeshed it, dressed the frets and put it back together with $5 flats.  Sounds good so far through 5 watt 'BluesMaster' and 1-15 cab.  Need to intonate it and dial in the setup.
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Dave W on February 13, 2015, 06:02:54 PM
$5 flats? Where?
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on February 14, 2015, 06:10:33 AM
Allparts, $10 list.  I have them on all my personal basses that have flats.  Recently sent a bass with them to a customer who usually uses TIs, he loves them.  Black silk at both ends.
http://www.allparts.com/ST-9046-000-45-105-Flat-Wound-Bass-Strings_p_3519.html

They seem too flexible to be 45-105s but I haven't measured.  Anyway, they work for for me compared to Chromes, Fenders, and LaBella 760FS.  They definitely match the 'Pilgrim Criterion'- CHEAP! ;D
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: Dave W on February 14, 2015, 07:55:30 AM
Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: dadagoboi on February 15, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
You're welcome, Dave!
Title: Re: Incoming Guild B-301
Post by: rexdiablo on February 18, 2015, 02:43:38 PM
Joseph from Pallbearer plays one of these. Thought it sounded great, but when I saw them he was having some noise issues- crazy, noisy humming anytime he wasn't hands on with it! He's playing it here, for anyone into their music heavy and slow:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHCI4kmRmZA