Gibson factory tour 1967

[Grog]

14:36 is the worst bass tone I have ever heard - and I've owned an EB2.

The amp that they used to test the EB-2 was a GA-5 Skylark. The cheapest amp in their 1967 lineup & probably the least suitable to amplify an EB-2. My EB-2 smoked much better speakers than the 10” that came with that amp.

[Basvarken]

It sounded nothing like Andy Fraser's tone though.
All I hear is plop plop plop ploppedi plop.

Goodbye To Romance really me made crack up everytime I heard it.

[ilan]

The amp that they used to test the EB-2 was a GA-5 Skylark. The cheapest amp in their 1967 lineup & probably the least suitable to amplify an EB-2. My EB-2 smoked much better speakers than the 10” that came with that amp.

It's a very nice guitar amp.

[Alanko]

Like the previous factory film, this one is a love letter to the previous decade. Gibson guitars are for white dudes in suits who play Chet Atkins licks while sitting down. Zero recognition of a decade of blues players (of all hues) who put their instruments on the electric map. The contrived beat group at the end  a pale pastiche of everything from 1961 onwards. The guitars for ordinary folk mantra over a montage of big shiny motorcars and towering buildings. Very square, unhip, straight-laced. Nobody permitted to bend strings on the company dime.

Again the video perpetuates the notion that the Gibson factory was kept in darkness except for some glaring spotlights set at angles that ensured machine operators had to fumble around in the darkness of their own shadows.

The guy sanding frets on the EB-2 then studying the resulting dull farts is sort of unintentionally brilliant.

[ilan]

The guy sanding frets on the EB-2 then studying the resulting dull farts is sort of unintentionally brilliant.

Lock this topic, I think we have a winner.

[slinkp]

That bass tone test was hilarious.

If we're going to go off on a "worst bass tone ever" tangent, I nominate this one:

[uwe]

Purdy.

But shouldn't it be Reign in Blood? Is that American spelling again? 

[gearHed289]

Song title is Raining Blood, from the album Reign in Blood. 

[uwe]

How tricky!

To my defense, I've never owned nor heard the album in full. With Metallica already too fast for me, Slayer didn't even really register - my ears aren't quick enough to catch that type of music. I never got into Venom either for the same reason.

[Psycho Bass Guy]

With early Slayer, which Raining Blood is, the bass is just an afterthought, a hint of an atonal clank hiding underneath Kerry King's massive guitar tone giving Tom Araya something to do besides scream and headbang. As they got older, the production DID get better, and to their credit, they never tempered their attitude and even had some sonic experiments (within the "broad" spectrum of punk to thrash) but this is where they pretty much ended up:

[gearHed289]

To my defense, I've never owned nor heard the album in full.

I was never a big fan, but a lot of my friends were metal heads in the 80s. I was mostly the new wave weirdo amongst them, but I did dig early Metallica, Anthrax, King Diamond, and Queensryche.

[uwe]

The first three I didn't really regard as having singers, just people shouting or squealing (the Dane), besides that much of their music was just too fast for me, I can't find a beat with that ultra-speedy stuff which would become a determining factor of much of Heavy Metal from the 80ies onwards.

Queensryche I liked, it was very artful and tidy. Empire was brilliant, very refined songwriting, I prefer(red) it to Operation Mindcrime.

Back then and today, when faced with the choice between speed, thrash and death metal and quirky to pop'ish New Wave, I always go for the latter.

[Basvarken]

Anthrax had a great singer.
And they didn’t make just all fast songs.
This one must be suitable for your slow ears:

[uwe]

Yeah, Joey Belladonna wasn't a grunter to give credit where credit is due. I remember that song, it was as commercially accessible as they got  , but still too thrashy-punkish for me. Back then you couldn't get away from Anthrax, all the metal magazines were hanging on Scott Ian's lips. He's a nice enough guy though. Didn't he marry Meatloaf's daughter Pearl?

I like my punk to be poppy and majorish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_mHFfOMWE&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4yjw5Y94s&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCW7Aw8ugOI&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&index=3

But maybe the bruddahs weren't really Punk at all and that is why I lik'em?

[doombass]

Yeah, Joey Belladonna wasn't a grunter to give credit where credit is due. I remember that song, it was as commercially accessible as they got  , but still too thrashy-punkish for me. Back then you couldn't get away from Anthrax, all the metal magazines were hanging on Scott Ian's lips. He's a nice enough guy though. Didn't he marry Meatloaf's daughter Pearl?

I like my punk to be poppy and majorish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q_mHFfOMWE&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&start_radio=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4yjw5Y94s&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCW7Aw8ugOI&list=RD6q_mHFfOMWE&index=3

But maybe the bruddahs weren't really Punk at all and that is why I lik'em?

Even if the examples you present are the more poppier songs, The Ramones are of course still more punk than Anthrax and Slayer. The latter bands have punk elements in the attitude of the music sure, but original punk was never about being that technical. Charlie Benante and Dave Lombardo would not really fit in as typical punk drummers right even if they of course could as well play punk in a punk band if they toned down their technical skills? That said without considering all later sub genres of punk.