The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Bass Amps & Effects => Topic started by: JimmyBond8 on July 29, 2009, 11:56:29 AM
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I came across this on facebook today, Fender is releasing a "Bassman TV" series of Amps that look like little tweed TV sets of yesteryear. I think they're
all tube tube driven and include an XLR out which is a definite plus & casters on some models.
You can give them a scout over, at their website (including a little commercial, and some sound bytes): http://www.fender.com/fba/bassmantv/
(http://www.fender.com/fba/bassmantv/images/wallpaper/bassman_tv_1-1024x768.jpg)
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These are tube driven, not all-tube.
Another gimmick from Fender. Who wants a bass amp to look like a small tweed guitar amp? I sure don't. IMHO they would be better served by improving the tone and reliability of their regular bass amps.
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I don't see why anyone would be interested in them as anything but practice amps. I can't find them at the online dealers linked to the Fender site, but I'll bet they'd make mighty pricey practice amps.
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The full specs aren't there but the two .pdf promos show from 150 to 350 watts. That much solid state wattage could handle some club gigs even with the small cabs. Still, it smells like hype to me.
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I didn't find that info. Yes, at those power levels they could handle a small gig. That's a point in their favor!
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I am open to them. I think their latest amps have been nice attempts, if off the mark a bit. By offering a retro look, but a modern output, they give a modern amp for people who don't go for the Polytone vibe most modern bass amps have.
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I do believe that to a great extent, Fender lives off its tradition and nostalgia. When boomers (myself included) get old enough to hang up the instruments, it will be interesting to see how they do. I doubt that the tweed look has much appeal for teens and 20-somethings.
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Meh. A retro look in bass amps would not be tweed, it would be along the lines of Ampeg or Sunn.
The tweed look will live on in the guitar world because it's at least as much about the sound as the look. And the sound is still very much in style in certain music that's still very popular.
The tweed look has never been much of a factor in the world of bass. The tweed Bassman of old was a failure as a bass amp, no matter how much Fender's hype machine talks about "the mighty Bassman."
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Sorry, didn't mean to go spouting out false info. That'll remind me to read things first. :-X
By offering a retro look, but a modern output, they give a modern amp for people who don't go for the Polytone vibe most modern bass amps have.
The tweed look has never been much of a factor in the world of bass. The tweed Bassman of old was a failure as a bass amp, no matter how much Fender's hype machine talks about "the mighty Bassman."
I agree with you EB2. I'm not a fan of Bass Amps that look like industrial machinery, and that's what made me notice them at all. I'm a fan of the unique when it comes to bass gear, as long as it doesn't come at the cost of playability or whatnot. But among most of the bands that I play out with, I'm the exception.
And the Bassman does have that history with bass, even if it was only to prompt someone to make a better bass amp. And Ironically, I think I saw one of these last night while watching Blues Brothers (I can't believe someone that plays music hadn't seen that movie), though I don't know if they were running a guitar or bass through it.
I'd still be interested to try them out. I'm never against trying out new or old gear.
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The tweed Bassman of old was a failure as a bass amp, no matter how much Fender's hype machine talks about "the mighty Bassman."
This is pretty much my sentiments ??? The old tweedy Bassman was a good sound for a guitar, but they were weak for a bass.
I played one of their reissues a while back and to say I was underwhelmed woud be an understatement. It DID look mighty cool though 8)
Rick
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Whatever on the amp :bored: .... I'll take that fiesta Jazz though!
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I grew up in the 70's
to me nostalgia is "Acoustic" or George Jetson logo Peavey gear, not Fender Tweed--
I still gig ancient Jetson logo Peavey gear every weekend--if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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I grew up in the 70's
to me nostalgia is "Acoustic" or George Jetson logo Peavey gear, not Fender Tweed--
I still gig ancient Jetson logo Peavey gear every weekend--if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Ah b'leeve that reinforces my earlier point.
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I can't help it, I'm really taken by the retro look of these amps. I'm gonna call my local stores to see if they have any to try out. I'm moving to a more acoustic trio group and I think it would look cool as long as it sounds good too.
I have to admit, 3 years ago I went through 3, yes 3, Fender Bassman amps and each of them crapped out in less than a month. Bad circuits on all of them. Finally got my Mesa Scout and it's worked flawlessly ever since. To be honest, I would be careful about having any Bassman as my only amp, but as a second one to tinker with, I'd consider it. I love the stupid look of these things.
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Definitely doesn't appeal... looks like a new but old style suitcase on wheels... and needs to be "relic'd"... at least the Jazz looks "worn-in"... ;)
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I ordered one for a review, I tried it and now it's at a colleague's house for a review. I kinda like it! They are real good lookers in real life: Tweed, kinda suede speaker cloth (think Champion 600), chrome control plates and chickenheads. I'm a sucker for chicken heads. It has a tube preamp indeed, a tranistor power amp and they sound very nice. Nothing really special, but just a good amp for smaller gigs.
300W and 2x10 is what I sometimes use for bigger gigs too. In the end I'm always DI'd, always bass on my monitor, so no use for a big amp. I almost always take my Hiwattt DR201, but that is just because I like it;)
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I tried the TV 15 last week and was impressed! I ran a MIA Precision and a 5-string Sterling Ray35 through it and it held its own. Not in the same league as many other amps out there like Mesa, SWR and the SVT but definitely a good all-around amp and stage-worthy. Lots of punch, clarity and decent tone-shaping controls. Looks-wise ...... hhhhhmmmmmmm ..... maybe in a Rockabilly, Blues or Country band.
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So you beat it with some chains, leave your cigarette burning on the top and spill a few beers on it. How hard is that? :toast:
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I don't need to relic either of my Peavey combo 300's...by now they have more than their share of mojo...
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Well, my local dealer has them all in stock, so I'm gonna test them just for giggles.
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OK, I took my trusty 4005 tribute bass to the House of Guitars and played 3 of the new Fender TV amps. I love the sound and the look. Sorry! The down side: under powered for serious R&R gigging. Even the 15" version wasn't quite loud enough to compete with drums and sound systems IMHO. The output jack for running through a sound system is a good feature and necessary.
However, I really liked the size, tone and more than adequate output for moderately demanding gigs. I just joined a trio to do semi-acoustic R&B gigs, so I bought the 12" 150w model. I'm looking forward to picking it up, they're holding it for me after I sell a bass to cover it. And I don't think it's ugly at all in person! 8)
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I suspected it wouldn't be as loud as 300w might indicate. Not my cup of tea, hope it does what you need it to, reliably.
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Bill, have you seen the state of my Hiwatt and Marshall gear...? ;D
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Bill, have you seen the state of my Hiwatt and Marshall gear...? ;D
Yes, and it is a beautiful sight. I love naturally reliced gear!
Hold the phone. The acoustic group I was going to join isn't going to work out, so I may not buy this puppy after all. If I'm not playing in coffee houses and such, I just might forgo this for now. I still would like one to screw around with once in awhile.
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You wait until you need something to buy it? ??? :)
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You wait until you need something to buy it? ??? :)
;D :mrgreen: ;D
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought that "Bassman TV" was Mark's new forum handle.
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LOL! Good one .....
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That one took me a minute to get. ;D Must be Monday morning.