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Title: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 24, 2010, 12:59:05 PM
Had this a few years, I call it "Lucky".  Trussrod repair, some odd holes, been attacked by 80 grit and looks like somebody gave up trying to remove the neck with a blunt instrument.  Plus a strange refin attempt.  But it's all there, no cracks, original except for pg.  Trussrod functions and neck is straight.  Could use a fret job.  The color looks more walnut than cherry

Recently I got a '67 bridge pup and decided to turn it into an EB-3.  Depending how the woodwork turns out I'll do it cherry or white.  Here are some pics that tell a story but I don't know exactly what it is.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/LUCKYEBO.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1139.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1172.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1148.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1175.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1176.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1157.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1171.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1192.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/SANY1178.jpg)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Highlander on June 24, 2010, 01:19:15 PM
I wonder what happened at the 15th...?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 24, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
I wonder what happened at the 15th...?

 :popcorn:

My guess: That's where the anchor is for the trussrod.  I think 2 frets were pulled , hole routed to get to the anchor, broken rod removed thru the headstock.  A new rod must have been threaded into the anchor, that's why there's a slot sawn into the replacement rod (I'll grind it off with a dremel).  Then a new piece of rosewood w/dot was inlaid in board and frets replaced.  I'll try to clean up the inlay work with sawdust from a board leveling.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: godofthunder on June 24, 2010, 01:56:19 PM
The bass is kinda cool as is but it sure will make a great EB3 ! White ala Jimmy Lea gets my vote.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 24, 2010, 02:33:43 PM
The bass is kinda cool as is but it sure will make a great EB3 ! White ala Jimmy Lea gets my vote.

If it was natural wear I'd just leave it, just do the pup rout, pots and vari.  It really looks worse than the pictures, probably Minwax Polyshades combination stain and finish.  If it was in worse shape the finish decision would be easier.  Fairly sure I gotta go for cherry ala a refinned EB with darkstars I've seen posted somewhere.  If I did it white I'd be more tempted to sell it.  Too many people paying too much money for white refins.  I would love an original white one though.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: drbassman on June 24, 2010, 03:16:15 PM
Yeah, that fret board work look like a truss rod repaier.  Your supposed to take out a hunk of rosewood between the frets!  Much easier to hide later on.

Keep it coming, it has potential!  I'll share my EB-3L when I start it later in the year.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 24, 2010, 04:20:14 PM
Yeah, that fret board work look like a truss rod repaier.  Your supposed to take out a hunk of rosewood between the frets!  Much easier to hide later on.


Yeah, you have to remove two more frets that way but definitely worth it.  I may redo it if I can find a matching piece of rosewood.

This was the Ebay auction picture.  The repair wasn't mentioned.  Buyer beware.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/c7_3.jpg)

I'm looking forward to your EB-3L build.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: godofthunder on June 25, 2010, 04:29:12 AM
Yeah, you have to remove two more frets that way but definitely worth it.  I may redo it if I can find a matching piece of rosewood.

This was the Ebay auction picture.  The repair wasn't mentioned.  Buyer beware.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1967%20EBO%20Conversion/c7_3.jpg)

I'm looking forward to your EB-3L build.
If that repair wasn't mentioned in the auction I hope you took the seller to task and got a partial refund.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: patman on June 25, 2010, 05:28:01 AM
I think it's perfect, (if it plays well)...very cool...
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Dr. Aquafresh on June 25, 2010, 05:32:14 AM
I'll bet you could get a piece of rosewood that would match pretty well, or you could artificially match it even. It might be fun to do just for the sake of doing it.

My mind goes to something dorky like buy a pre-cut board and take a hunk out of it. Maybe even do more than three frets worth. I suppose at that point you could just pull the whole board, if you did that then you could make sure the rod is in good shape. Oh! you could make it a fretless with an all new fret board, I don't know if you would want that though.

Of course, it may be just as good to simply pull that one section and replace.

Sorry, I kind of got carried away there  ;D

Looking forward to what you come up with.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 25, 2010, 06:43:12 AM
Dr. Aquafresh, you've given me a lot to think about.  Thanks, I have no idea how I'll proceed now.  But an entire board replacement does sorta make sense.  I hadn't thought of that at all.

Patman, it plays fine but the frets wouldn't take another dressing.  I feel this particular bass deserves to be made whole.  It's taken a lot of hits but is still close to how it came out of the factory.

God of Thunder, I didn't try to renegotiate the price,  it just made an auction that looked like a great deal into one that was just OK.  If the rod didn't work I would have definitely done something about it.  But it did teach me a lesson.  Really look at pix and ask every question you can think of. If not answered, walk.  I missed seeing what was visible and I didn't ask any questions.  That WAS a lot smaller pic in the auction though.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: nofi on June 25, 2010, 07:00:58 AM
it has it's own particular charm. i love basses like this. refet it and go.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 25, 2010, 07:26:38 AM
it has it's own particular charm. i love basses like this. refet it and go.

Nofi, I live in a trailer, I can see the ground through my kitchen floor, the plumbing barely functions.  I gotta keep up appearances somehow.  You can't expect me to be seen with a beat up bass.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: OldManC on June 25, 2010, 12:31:17 PM
Nofi, I live in a trailer, I can see the ground through my kitchen floor, the plumbing barely functions.  I gotta keep up appearances somehow.  You can't expect me to be seen with a beat up bass.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Highlander on June 25, 2010, 01:38:54 PM
Never stopped me... ;D
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Pilgrim on June 25, 2010, 02:04:41 PM
Nofi, I live in a trailer, I can see the ground through my kitchen floor, the plumbing barely functions.  I gotta keep up appearances somehow.  You can't expect me to be seen with a beat up bass.

Do you have the pickup off the cinder blocks yet?   ;)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Lightyear on June 25, 2010, 07:15:38 PM
Nofi, I live in a trailer, I can see the ground through my kitchen floor, the plumbing barely functions.  I gotta keep up appearances somehow.  You can't expect me to be seen with a beat up bass.

Yes, but is it single wide or a double?!  :P
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 26, 2010, 02:44:49 AM
Yes, but is it single wide or a double?!  :P

Formerly a DW.  Gutted and now a redneck loft/design studio/rat preserve.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Pilgrim on June 26, 2010, 07:41:26 AM
The mobile home is no problem.  Just don't let the old laundry equipment and water heaters accumulate outside.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 26, 2010, 07:57:05 AM
The mobile home is no problem.  Just don't let the old laundry equipment and water heaters accumulate outside.

Around here it's called lawn sculpture.  Or targets.  Thanks to the Florida Endless Summer I haven't had to turn on the water heater for a month.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 26, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
The mobile home is no problem.  Just don't let the old laundry equipment and water heaters accumulate outside.

No water heater or washing machine here
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/Chrome%20Soapbar/CHROMED/Winders.jpg)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: drbassman on June 26, 2010, 11:45:58 AM
You're making me nostalgic for my Grandpa's old place from my childhood.  He had a blue trailer back in the early fifties.  I loved visiting him when I was a kid.  I thought the trailer was so cool. 

Looked a lot like this one:  http://www.allmanufacturedhomes.com/html/html/1950_kozy_coach_123103.htm


I don't miss the outhouse though.  He didn't have the toilet hooked up.  In southern Ohio that was a real luxury!



No water heater or washing machine here
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/Chrome%20Soapbar/CHROMED/Winders.jpg)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 26, 2010, 12:16:06 PM
You're making me nostalgic for my Grandpa's old place from my childhood.  He had a blue trailer back in the early fifties.  I loved visiting him when I was a kid.  I thought the trailer was so cool. 

Looked a lot like this one:  http://www.allmanufacturedhomes.com/html/html/1950_kozy_coach_123103.htm


I don't miss the outhouse though.  He didn't have the toilet hooked up.  In southern Ohio that was a real luxury!




Pretty cool, I was looking at big old airstreams and other RVs as possibilities, they're pretty cheap.  My place looked a lot better before I decided to destroy it to save it.  I just didn't have the need for 3 tiny bedrooms and 2 baths so I blew out all the interior walls.  The exterior is finished but I've lost interest with the interior.  My brother and brother in law are coming up next week to help me finish my shop, I'll be spending more time out there once the A/C and internet are functioning.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: drbassman on June 26, 2010, 12:21:49 PM
Good luck with the home remodleing.  I enjoy doing it...............most of the time.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 26, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
Good luck with the home remodleing.  I enjoy doing it...............most of the time.

Thanks, I'm currently not very motivated in that direction.  It is satisfying when it's all done.
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: Highlander on June 27, 2010, 12:24:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDaSvRO9xA

Couldn't resist... (historical note - this predates Python, with 2 other comedians Tim Brook-Taylor and Marty Feldman)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: TBird1958 on June 27, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
Formerly a DW.  Gutted and now a redneck loft/design studio/rat preserve.


LMFAO!!!!!!


Sorry.  ;)
Title: Re: 1967 EBO Conversion
Post by: dadagoboi on June 27, 2010, 02:04:38 PM
Malarious!