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Title: This should end well
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2021, 08:11:09 AM
https://www.thatericalper.com/2021/07/26/gibson-announces-launch-of-record-label-first-album-with-slash/
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Dave W on July 27, 2021, 08:09:58 PM
lol

Is Slash even relevant as an artist who can sell records today?
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Basvarken on July 28, 2021, 07:37:17 AM
I saw him years ago with Velvet Revolver. And I thought he was like a parody on himself.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: uwe on July 28, 2021, 09:13:53 AM
He's always been a comics character type figure, just like the Ramones. People who wear haircuts where you can't see their eyes are figments of imagination.

I saw Velvet Revolver too on that last fateful pre-split-tour (my son, then a teenage Slash fan dragged me), but it ranks among the best gigs I've ever witnessed. Weiland and the band were no longer communicating, not a smile or a glance or any type of acknowledgement during the whole gig, he acted like they weren't there. And the band knuckled down to it, ignoring him too. Now that sounds like a recipe for disaster, but that night it was magic, all that band-internal aggression and frustration fueled one hell of a joint, if not joined performance. Dysfunctional as it was, it was also entirely captivating.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Alanko on July 28, 2021, 09:39:03 AM
lol

Is Slash even relevant as an artist who can sell records today?

He wasn't relevant when he was all over guitar magazines twenty years ago. He's had a long tail to his career, but all the important stuff he's ever played was on those original G 'n' R records. There seems to be no collaboration too hideous for him to refuse. He's a bit like Carlos Santana in that regard.

Gibson should have signed Greta Van Fleet or similar if they have any interest in selling guitars to people under fifty.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2021, 11:20:53 AM
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Gibson should have signed Greta Van Fleet or similar if they have any interest in selling guitars to people under fifty.
8)
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Dave W on July 28, 2021, 12:01:07 PM

Gibson should have signed Greta Van Fleet or similar if they have any interest in selling guitars to people under fifty.

lol

They're truly awful.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Alanko on July 28, 2021, 02:06:53 PM
lol

They're truly awful.

They are horrible, but the youngsters like them. Potentially.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: uwe on July 28, 2021, 03:10:00 PM
I think they're fine for a young band though their Zeppelin worship isn't to my liking as you may guess.

I'm happy that someone their age is making rock music like this at all.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Dave W on July 29, 2021, 10:08:43 PM
Is a record company even a viable business model today? OTOH, Gibson may be hoping that the value is in PR.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: uwe on July 30, 2021, 03:52:23 AM
My guess is advertisement and media attention too. After Henry J's many (unsuccessful) outbursts of diversification, I wager to guess that the new management and owners are kind of wary of repeating the exercise.

"Gibson Records" sounds kind of nice, but they need more than Slash on their roster.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Pilgrim on July 30, 2021, 09:22:52 AM
Is a record company even a viable business model today? OTOH, Gibson may be hoping that the value is in PR.

A record company can be a brand name for any number of different musical properties and equipment combinations and tie-ins. I could see that as a real asset if developed thoughtfully.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: doombass on July 30, 2021, 04:04:41 PM
I also wonder if there is any real financial gain. A partnership with BMG means they have the correct tools, but there will probably not be much money left to be earned for Gibson.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: BTL on July 30, 2021, 07:03:05 PM
Think of the exposure, though.
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Highlander on July 31, 2021, 11:08:37 AM
A streaker at the Super Bowl would get a load of exposure, but is that necessarily a good thang...? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Pilgrim on July 31, 2021, 12:23:53 PM
A streaker at the Super Bowl would get a load of exposure, but is that necessarily a good thang...? :mrgreen:

I'll bet there are many dot-coms that would pay a lotta money for a streaker wearing only a banner with their website address.....
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: uwe on July 31, 2021, 01:34:54 PM
A streaker at the Super Bowl would get a load of exposure, but is that necessarily a good thang...? :mrgreen:

You meant to say "thong", right?

(https://live.staticflickr.com/6161/6179871209_b0f6593770_b.jpg)
Title: Re: This should end well
Post by: Granny Gremlin on August 01, 2021, 06:46:53 AM
He wasn't relevant when he was all over guitar magazines twenty years ago. He's had a long tail to his career, but all the important stuff he's ever played was on those original G 'n' R records. There seems to be no collaboration too hideous for him to refuse. He's a bit like Carlos Santana in that regard.

Gibson should have signed Greta Van Fleet or similar if they have any interest in selling guitars to people under fifty.

Don't forget all those Michael Jackson records and wasn't there some Puff Daddy collabs?

And Gretta Van Fleet isn't selling guitars to people under 50 (unless you meant 37-49 year olds).  The band is young but not so much their audience.  I aknowledge some 'kids' love em too, but trust me, it's mostly moms and some blues dads who don't know it's over for them (like people who were in to Zep and Sabbath back inna day; High School when people still sewed Zep patches onto their jean jackets even though it was the 80s/90s - they weren't there for the original Zep, missed the No Quarter Tour because it was too expensive, and are just so thrilled rock ain't dead).  Their Toronto tour dates (2 nights) were next door to my studio; I saw the crowd coming in/out.  They don't even play them on the new rock radio stations anymore - they've been relegated to the classic rock station, because that's their demographic).  To be fair, people over 50 is Gibson's target market though, so I agree that woulda been a better choice.  Kids can't afford Gibsons; that's what Epiphone is for.