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Title: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 20, 2015, 06:47:51 AM
Well, I've been gassing for another one and since they discontinued them, I thought now is the time.  Got me a Broadkaster, brand new with papers.  Never should have sold my first one, I missed it.  These are great basses, right up there with the ThunderJet.  Going to practice tomorrow with it.

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Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Granny Gremlin on July 20, 2015, 10:40:16 AM
DROOL!

(I just am not a fan of those bridges though - floating so easy to replace)
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on July 20, 2015, 12:07:45 PM
Ah, Dr. Bill, your taste continues to be impeccable!

Nobody does that luscious orange so well as Gretsch. 

That looks a lot like your departed 5123....is it a thinner body?
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 20, 2015, 12:43:39 PM
DROOL!

(I just am not a fan of those bridges though - floating so easy to replace)

I agree.  I do have a floating Gretsch bridge with adjustable saddles.  I'll probably change it out.  Only flaw on this bass.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 20, 2015, 12:46:36 PM
Ah, Dr. Bill, your taste continues to be impeccable!

Nobody does that luscious orange so well as Gretsch. 

That looks a lot like your departed 5123....is it a thinner body?

Thanks for the compliment Al.  I missed that bass a lot over the years and just decided I wanted another.  This one is a beauty for sure.  I think the body on this bass is a bit thicker than the 5123.  I could never get the 5123 to sound as good as this does. The difference in quality is real and noticeable.  I did have a 6072 that I don't miss as much.  An absolutely beautiful bass, but the long scale was unplayable for me.  It too sounds great.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Highlander on July 20, 2015, 02:59:01 PM
Beautiful...
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on July 20, 2015, 08:27:34 PM
Thanks for the compliment Al.  I missed that bass a lot over the years and just decided I wanted another.  This one is a beauty for sure.  I think the body on this bass is a bit thicker than the 5123.  I could never get the 5123 to sound as good as this does. The difference in quality is real and noticeable.  I did have a 6072 that I don't miss as much.  An absolutely beautiful bass, but the long scale was unplayable for me.  It too sounds great.

Wow - my 5123 has the thickest body (front to back) that I have ever owned.  Nearly an inch deeper than my Univox 335-copy or the Casady I had.  Datsa lotta bass!
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Dave W on July 20, 2015, 08:52:18 PM
Too big a body for me, but I'm glad you like it. And it's good to see you feeling up to posting more.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 21, 2015, 03:49:22 AM
Wow - my 5123 has the thickest body (front to back) that I have ever owned.  Nearly an inch deeper than my Univox 335-copy or the Casady I had.  Datsa lotta bass!

I could be wrong.  I'll measure it today and we can compare.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 21, 2015, 03:51:02 AM
Too big a body for me, but I'm glad you like it. And it's good to see you feeling up to posting more.

I find it very manageable with the short scale.  Yeah, I'm finally feeling better.  I posted a comment about my illness in the Cafe.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 21, 2015, 06:25:52 AM
Measured the body, it's 2.5" thick.  The other thing I noticed is its a heavy bass for a hollow body.  All of that maple probably has something to do with it as well as the deep rich tone you get out of it.  That hardwood gives it some nice clarity without mushiness.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on July 21, 2015, 07:49:15 AM
I'll check mine this evening and post...
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Granny Gremlin on July 21, 2015, 09:32:29 AM
Wait, it's a shawty?  Such unbearable GAS pains.

The main thing keeping me from wanting a White Falcon Bass (still want the guitar) is the long scale.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on July 21, 2015, 05:39:35 PM
OK, there's not as much difference as I thought.

My Gretsch 5123 body is 2 3/4" front to back.  My old Univox 335-copy is only 1 7/8" front to back, so no wonder there's a very perceptible difference between them...but I can't think that 1/4" would make much diff between the 5123 and the Broadkaster.

I don't remember the dimensions of the Casady bass I had, but I think it was about 2" to 2 1/4" front to back.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 22, 2015, 04:13:36 AM
Wait, it's a shawty?  Such unbearable GAS pains.

The main thing keeping me from wanting a White Falcon Bass (still want the guitar) is the long scale.

Yes, it's 30" scale.  I love it.  I did have a White Falcon briefly.  Had a friend who needed money and he sold it to me cheap.  A very cool bass, but like the 6072, I just couldn't manage the 34" scale on that huge body.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 25, 2015, 01:35:25 PM
I forgot to mention the bass really well at practice.  With the original rounds on it, the bass sounded great with both pups full on.  Not mushy, nice and clear with a nice balance between the highs and lows.  I tried the neck only and the bridge pup only and the neck pup did really well.  Lots of bass without totally washing out the highs.

It's going back next week.  Going compare it with the ThunderJet.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Dave W on July 25, 2015, 05:46:52 PM
That's good. I'm thinking the Thunder Jet will win the comparison.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 26, 2015, 01:02:25 AM
That's good. I'm thinking the Thunder Jet will win the comparison.

We'll see.  It does have TV Jones pups and they are pretty beefy.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Dave W on July 26, 2015, 08:54:27 PM
We'll see.  It does have TV Jones pups and they are pretty beefy.

I'm really just guessing based on my preferences.  :)

Between the TV Jones and the solid or sem-solid body, I know it would work better for me.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on July 26, 2015, 10:28:57 PM
I suspect the answer will be chocolate and vanilla, liking both.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 30, 2015, 09:56:20 AM
Well, Dave and Al were correct.  Very different sounds from the two basses.  Even with new rounds, the BK was more tame, old school in its tone.  Pups are lower output and the overall sound using both pups was mellow, but distinct enough to be heard clearly.  I liked the sound and the output was very even across the strings.  The bass wasn't overly bassy, the mids and highs were equally represented.

The TJ was altogether different.  It has old TI rounds on it and the TVJ pups are way stronger than the Gretsch.   The output was clearer and the lows, mids and highs more defined.  It has more bite to it, not mellow for sure.  So, the TJ can definitely rock out better than the BK.  it's nice they don't sound the same!  I like them both and could see myself using the them alternately based on the songs I'm playing.

Side bar:  BK owners often put TVJ pups in after they hear the difference.  A very common mod for this bass.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Dave W on July 30, 2015, 01:53:47 PM
Even with TV Jones pickups, the Broadkaster isn't going to be as defined as the ThunderJet.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on July 30, 2015, 04:06:22 PM
Even with TV Jones pickups, the Broadkaster isn't going to be as defined as the ThunderJet.

Typical of the big body bass.  The bigger the hollow body the less defined it is.


Conversely, my Gibson EB 650 kicks butt as much as any of my solid bodies because of the TB pups and I suspect the 34" scale helps some as well.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on August 01, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
Very nice!  With chocolate and vanilla you can make a nice sundae!  8)
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Dave W on August 02, 2015, 01:30:56 PM
In general, I find that hollowbodies lack a certain upper-mid punch that naturally comes with solid or semisolid bodies. You can compensate for it to some extent, of course, and it all depends on your own tonal preferences.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: Pilgrim on August 02, 2015, 05:38:31 PM
Yes.  My 5123 is one of only two basses I have left the rounds on, to give it just a bit more initial attack.
Title: Re: Gretsch Broadkaster
Post by: drbassman on August 04, 2015, 10:05:16 AM
In general, I find that hollowbodies lack a certain upper-mid punch that naturally comes with solid or semisolid bodies. You can compensate for it to some extent, of course, and it all depends on your own tonal preferences.

My problem is I love the old school sound of a hollow body with flats but I can't get enough mid and high definition to be heard properly in my band.  It's just too sassy and indistinct.  Even with the tweaks on the EQ and tone controls, it usually isn't enough.