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Title: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 20, 2019, 10:30:00 PM
Saw this shared to a friend's timeline on FB. You should be able to see the photos even if you're not on FB.

Rickenbacker photo tour (https://www.facebook.com/pg/JPushkarMusic/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2203078533337828&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARBPlAH5frrgj5KbzPAvTl2tc3uUN-Dic8kGvLbn9itmtuVX17gxziyruVnHmwaa6Y3wHbWN53RhGq15yLRke0oiWDkhJ0DKgOp-afsuFb_ynw8pW6LiSyxx6MpXG1__3GHxK2W4xk9_7SgZLWoI1AxZp2s5xlPKDv42zyNggGdqN7KxwqqL-vfc6sESL22WbpGiUHu6RM7_0GuCWPs618S22mqJhDksJFM68WHUixTTaiHPOW8_3pxCaOLI0dOpwYC075L2Q8ndKgg0AL8xJd-fmLa8QaNcUnyFtTz6vpQJykijw4PEH8FfX5OabmPTgVpbgOeOR8V3JZnM_tAOqSjMhsxF4Mk5e1s5lY97ArgNuTDJy_2JDimqSCKpu46LgEN6dtVH3Y3F5_aXJA4C4OLHa8ynmBJwWKSFNPa6GLNAp-Ktv5Wq58LkyK3cLPRXskda9PUNWqA67wihiklkytUh4Q&__tn__=-UC-R)
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: ilan on May 21, 2019, 03:17:51 AM
This one (https://www.facebook.com/JPushkarMusic/photos/a.2203078533337828/2203080213337660/?type=1&theater) is interesting. F holes, fishtail headstock, weird double dot inlays, all hardware removed, no holes in the body for pots.

This one (https://scontent.fsdv3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60251211_2203080416670973_3898608609910587392_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fsdv3-1.fna&oh=5372dff74508b9f2a736466b69e83c74&oe=5D50B1D1) too - Dumpster Bass 4th from left; 2nd from right a Tele-shaped bass, Fender headstock with 3+1 Musicman-ish tuners, tailpiece without the mute section. Weird and beautiful.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: doombass on May 21, 2019, 03:31:31 AM
Wow, I've never seen any pics of those museum pieces before.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: gearHed289 on May 21, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
The 3 + 1 headstock (actually the whole bass) was presented to FC Hall by Forrest White - formerly of Fender, later with MusicMan. Apparently his response was something like "That will NEVER be on a Rickenbacker!"  ;D
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: ilan on May 21, 2019, 08:54:10 AM
The 3 + 1 headstock (actually the whole bass) was presented to FC Hall by Forrest White - formerly of Fender, later with MusicMan. Apparently his response was something like "That will NEVER be on a Rickenbacker!"  ;D

Very interesting. So what's the story with this 660 bass with P pickup (https://scontent.ftlv6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60139331_2203080116671003_5254344680757264384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.ftlv6-1.fna&oh=7b00226712de3916487a2ae4f3d9c5d2&oe=5D62AF6B) (5th from left)?
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Jeff Scott on May 21, 2019, 12:26:23 PM
Cool to see a "defrocked" 4003AC there. too.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Rob on May 21, 2019, 12:31:52 PM
This is a great post.
I wonder how many of these were protos.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Jeff Scott on May 21, 2019, 07:07:19 PM
There are quite a few prototypes and experiments in the museum.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 21, 2019, 10:06:17 PM
I remember the Forrest White story being discussed years ago at the RRF.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: gearHed289 on May 22, 2019, 07:41:41 AM
There was a factory tour story in Bass Player magazine maybe 10 years ago where some of these were discussed. I'll try to find it. I remember the 660 in a photo, but I don't remember it being mentioned. That would be a great body style for a short scale!

Jeff, what's a 4003AC?
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: ilan on May 22, 2019, 10:48:53 AM
what's a 4003AC?

This hideous bass

(https://i.ibb.co/mXLt5hJ/57387446-2356020287814942-6918504711066746880-o.jpg)
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 22, 2019, 11:35:38 AM
He's also an effective posterboy to warn against smoking too much of the devil's lettuce. A grown man like that should know better.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Rob on May 22, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
This hideous bass

(https://i.ibb.co/mXLt5hJ/57387446-2356020287814942-6918504711066746880-o.jpg)

I just knew this would become a meme  8)
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: gearHed289 on May 23, 2019, 07:39:59 AM
This hideous bass

Oh yeah, THAT disaster. Sweet Rush shirt bro, but your bass is ugly as f#&k.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 23, 2019, 09:21:06 PM
I had no idea who AC is. Searched and listened. Now I'm sorry I did.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: gearHed289 on May 24, 2019, 07:22:05 AM
I had no idea who AC is. Searched and listened. Now I'm sorry I did.

How about this guy?  ;) https://www.facebook.com/ricguitars/videos/1829793123770997/ (https://www.facebook.com/ricguitars/videos/1829793123770997/)
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: 4stringer77 on May 24, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
I've seen a young guy playing with Paul Motian in NYC on what looked like an azure glow 4001 or 4003. It worked surprisingly well in the jazz trio setting. Just thought I'd mention that so folks don't too discouraged from all the meathead Ric players in this thread.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 24, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
I've seen a young guy playing with Paul Motian in NYC on what looked like an azure glow 4001 or 4003. It worked surprisingly well in the jazz trio setting. Just thought I'd mention that so folks don't too discouraged from all the meathead Ric players in this thread.

Rics can be used in any kind of music. I noticed that the bassist in the house band of a weekly country show in Houston is now playing a yellowed 4003 with black trim.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Jeff Scott on May 24, 2019, 11:03:39 PM
I noticed that the bassist in the house band of a weekly country show in Houston is now playing a yellowed 4003 with black trim.
Is that Erik Kutzler, perhaps?
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: amptech on May 25, 2019, 12:07:10 AM
I've seen a young guy playing with Paul Motian in NYC on what looked like an azure glow 4001 or 4003. It worked surprisingly well in the jazz trio setting. Just thought I'd mention that so folks don't too discouraged from all the meathead Ric players in this thread.

I used a 4001 with a Jazz trio back in 2001/2, we just had a new drummer who was a bit more hard hitting and technical than the one we had before him - worked like a charm. I had just started to explore 70's prog back then, I guess I'd be playing it no matter what band setting I'd be in at the time. I even used it in a folk group for a short while. I think it blends in well in many styles, but when I look at it, it screams CLANK :)
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Rob on May 25, 2019, 10:17:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiEByfjHM2I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiEByfjHM2I)

Dave Brubeck
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 25, 2019, 02:19:35 PM
Is that Erik Kutzler, perhaps?

Erik Kutzler from Virginia? Definitely not. I don't know the man's name, he looks to be in his 70s, which is young for this particular band.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Rob on May 25, 2019, 06:15:36 PM
Erik Kutzler from Virginia? Definitely not. I don't know the man's name, he looks to be in his 70s, which is young for this particular band.

It might be Brubeck's son.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Alanko on May 26, 2019, 01:45:02 PM
I had no idea who AC is. Searched and listened. Now I'm sorry I did.

Aw man that's a bit harsh...


I noticed that the bassist in the house band of a weekly country show in Houston is now playing a yellowed 4003 with black trim.

Ah right you're listening to old cowboy shite. It makes sense now.  :P
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on May 26, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
It might be Brubeck's son.

The band's frontman/fiddler, who also owns the show and facility, is 94 or 95. No kidding. He's old enough to be Brubeck's brother. He's no slouch, he's in the Western Swing Music Society of the Southwest Hall of Fame. Plays for three hours almost every Saturday night.

The previous regular bassist was just a kid, he's only in his early 60s.  :)  The guy who's playing currently looks to be a good bit older.

Aw man that's a bit harsh...

Ah right you're listening to old cowboy shite. It makes sense now.  :P

Nothing against the Cisneros guy personally, but what I heard sounds awful to me.

I do listen to old country and a lot more. No apologies.

Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: westen44 on May 26, 2019, 06:26:52 PM
Aw man that's a bit harsh...


Ah right you're listening to old cowboy shite. It makes sense now.  :P

I've lived not too far from Nashville much of my life.  I've always disliked Nashville country.  And it keeps just getting worse.  But Texas country is another matter.  I still don't know much about it.  But I was literally shocked at how much better it is than the Nashville rubbish. 
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: patman on June 04, 2019, 12:36:49 PM
I like old country.

In my living room is a GFI pedal steel, and a 1960 Fender double 6 Stringmaster steel guitar.

Currently looking for an old double 8...Gibson or National...
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Dave W on June 04, 2019, 09:50:51 PM
I like old country.

In my living room is a GFI pedal steel, and a 1960 Fender double 6 Stringmaster steel guitar.

Currently looking for an old double 8...Gibson or National...

I'd love to have a pedal steel if I thought I would ever have the discipline to learn to play it.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: Jeff Scott on June 05, 2019, 02:58:29 PM
There was a single neck console steel at a local shop near me that I should have bought back in 2009, but I wasn't sure if the "price was right"!
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: the mojo hobo on June 19, 2019, 04:36:24 PM
A friend of mine needing money sold me a lap steel. I couldn't resist, it is a Gibson. Learning curve has it under the bed.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: thx1955 on August 16, 2019, 08:49:00 PM
Hi All,
Back in August 2005, Rickenbacker Forum Members held a weekend long SoCalCon in Orange County. As part of that weekend a few of us on the Friday before the meeting were privileged to be given a tour of the Factory by John Hall.

I've quite a few unique pictures from that tour, including the Factory and the Museum.

As soon as I can figure out how to post said pictures I'll upload them.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: ilan on August 17, 2019, 03:02:59 AM
I remember both pics. The first iirc is of the new guy they hired to finish carving the Lemmy basses after a 4 years delay when the original carver left. The second is the "dumpster bass" that Ric employees presented to John Hall.
Title: Re: Private Tour of the Rickenbacker Factory
Post by: thx1955 on August 17, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
The gentleman carving the Lemmy's was in fact Rickenbcker's last full time Luthier, he'd previously been finishing off the last of the Ric hollow body acoustics.

He spent a fair time with us showing us how he approached each individual wing and hw each one differed based on the grain and pattern of the Walnut.

You're right, the other is indeed the Dumpster.

Here's two more ....
John Hall with Lemmy's actual bass which was in for a tune up
And
The Last of the Lemmy Walnut Wings ...

The guy in the Black is ... Me