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Title: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on August 24, 2010, 06:42:03 PM
Do none of those clowns selling Thunderbird cases know that what they are really selling are Firebird cases? This has happened to me twice. Argh, those guys need to walk the plank, matey!
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Dave W on August 24, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
That's too bad. Maddening and a hassle to return. Better ask for measurements next time.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on August 25, 2010, 10:00:58 AM
Yeah, for some reason this time I didn't ask about the length, which was forgetful of me. The last time this happened I asked and was assured that the case WAS a T-bird case but when I got over there it was, again, a Firebird case.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Johnbob on September 06, 2010, 01:04:21 AM
Why are T-bird cases so hard to find? I don't get it. They still make T-birds and they usually come is cases so why can't we find the cases? If you do a Google search for Gibson Thunderbird case you get a bunch of links to Musicians Friends, Guitar Center, Etc. but none of them actually have Thunderbird cases on their sites. Why not? I need a case for my Bachbird and finding one sucks. Are NR birds way longer then a regular reverse bird?
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 06, 2010, 06:19:47 AM
The Bachbird will fit in a regular reverse case, but it will have to be modified to fit the NR body. The brown cases can be had on ebay reasonably if you are willing to wait.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on September 06, 2010, 06:48:14 AM
Good question, Johnbob. Because I went for an older black T-bird case (which was misrepresented) I missed out on a legitimate brown one for only $60.

Most of the sites mentioned carry the regular Epi cases which have a rectangular body cavity but I really don't like the way the lower horn rides up against the hinge side as tightly as they do.

While messing around last week, I did find that my mocked up Fenderbird will fit in one of the shaped Epiphone cases. Body fits fine with some room at the headstock. Not sure if it will fit an intact Gibby T-bird though.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Nocturnal on September 06, 2010, 09:16:52 AM
Pretty sure the Epi case will fit a Gibson too. Someone here or at the Pit had one and showed several Tbirds in the Epi case and all fit. I want to say it was Johnny Crab, but it's been a while so not sure.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 06, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
The Epi case will not fit an NR or Bach Bird. It's too short.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Johnbob on September 06, 2010, 02:32:47 PM
Yeah, I have seen a number of Epiphone cases on Ebay and I have asked the interior dimensions and so far they have all been too short. So the vintage brown Gibson cases fit then for sure? I too have passed up a few too (Probably the same ones as you) because I asked the interior dimensions and they had sold before the seller had a chance to get back to me. What about the newer Gibson cases with the white interior, does anyone know if those would work? 
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Hornisse on September 06, 2010, 03:45:10 PM
What about the old Epi Non Reverse T-Birds that they made in the 1990's?  I had a 5 string version and the case was absolutely huge!  Unfortunately I don't have it anymore so no measurements.....
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on September 06, 2010, 04:45:43 PM
What about the old Epi Non Reverse T-Birds that they made in the 1990's?  I had a 5 string version and the case was absolutely huge!  Unfortunately I don't have it anymore so no measurements.....

Bet a case for one of those is a pretty rare beast!
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Hornisse on September 06, 2010, 05:35:18 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/34qr392.jpg)

This is the best photo I have of the case.  Looks like there would be plenty of room for the body but I'm not sure about the total length.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: uwe on September 07, 2010, 05:39:56 AM
Why not take those nice faux croc Bachbird cases? They fit Revs and Non Revs of all eras plus RDs and Epi Embassies. They look great, are cheap and reasonably stable (ok, not world tour quality).
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 07, 2010, 06:06:08 AM
 The problem with the Bach case is that when shipped to the U.S. it is no longer a low cost option.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: ramone57 on September 07, 2010, 06:13:11 AM
don't know if this one would work but the price is right (for now)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Vtg-1980s-Gibson-Logo-Victory-Artist-Bass-Case-/360295911967?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item53e34f521f
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Basvarken on September 07, 2010, 07:36:23 AM
The Epi case will not fit an NR or Bach Bird. It's too short.


Mine does!

Here's an older pic of my BacHbrid (pre mods) in the Epiphone case. I took out the shaped compartment where the body fits. Turned it around and reshaped it a little with a hobby knife. Put the plush back. Et voila!

(http://www.superfloor.net/BaCHbird-in-case2.jpg)
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: jumbodbassman on September 07, 2010, 08:05:25 AM
don't know if this one would work but the price is right (for now)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Vtg-1980s-Gibson-Logo-Victory-Artist-Bass-Case-/360295911967?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item53e34f521f

that appears too short .  the bach bird is about 50 inches plus..
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 07, 2010, 08:50:41 AM
So there must be different Epi T-Bird cases. The one I had was about 48.5 inches, which was too short.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Nocturnal on September 07, 2010, 10:18:47 AM
When I had my Epi Non Reverse basses (4 & 5 string), they both fit in an Epi case. It was longer than my Gibson TBird case tho. I had the cases lined up by size and the Epi was at the back, and it stood taller than the Gibson. It wasn't the current type of Epi TBird case that is form fit, it had the open section at the lower end (like in Hornisse picture). I would think those longer Epi cases are very hard to find at this point.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on September 08, 2010, 04:16:32 AM
don't know if this one would work but the price is right (for now)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Vtg-1980s-Gibson-Logo-Victory-Artist-Bass-Case-/360295911967?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item53e34f521f

Too small! Last night I was swapping around basses and cases just to see what fit. The Victory case is actually pretty small and even the Victory is a tight fight in there. The fitted Epiphone case is large enough to hold the Epi T-bird, the Jap Epi T-bird, the Fenderbird AND the BaCH (with mods to the body cavity). The humongous case in which I keep the BaCH is, I believe an Explorer bass case. It dwarfs all the other cases. It, however, is shallower than the fitted Epi case and the Jap Epi case and so the headstock of the BaCH sits VERY close to the bottom of the case.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: the mojo hobo on September 08, 2010, 05:16:08 AM
This one will fit. It will need some re-working, but it has already been modified.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Bass-Case-Thunderbird-Also-Fits-SG-and-Guild-302_W0QQitemZ320586761960QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item4aa475c6e8

Inside Dimensions of the case are 16 1/8" X 51 3/4"
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Basvarken on September 08, 2010, 05:55:12 AM
When I received the Epiphone case that I had ordered from Thomann.de (for only 77 euro) I was actually disappointed at first, because it was not the case they had depicted on their website. Their website showed a rectangular case without the shaped body compartment.

(http://a1.images6.thomann.de/pics/prod/185931.jpg)


The case they sent had the shaped compartment, which forced me to modify it.
I hindsight I'm glad I got this one because it holds the bass really good. It's a snug fit.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: Denis on September 08, 2010, 09:54:04 AM
When I received the Epiphone case that I had ordered from Thomann.de (for only 77 euro) I was actually disappointed at first, because it was not the case they had depicted on their website. Their website showed a rectangular case without the shaped body compartment.

(http://a1.images6.thomann.de/pics/prod/185931.jpg)


The case they sent had the shaped compartment, which forced me to modify it.
I hindsight I'm glad I got this one because it holds the bass really good. It's a snug fit.


You lucked out, I think. The cases with the shaped compartments seem to be pretty uncommon and they are larger than the unshaped cases.
Title: Re: Thunderbird vs Firebird case woes
Post by: ramone57 on September 09, 2010, 03:54:05 AM
I think that's the case they're using now.  when I bought a case for my Epi Tbird pro in January or February, that's all I could find.