(No!) Problem Tune O Matic Bridge Les Paul Bass

Started by gibran, April 24, 2012, 01:01:22 AM

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uwe

Gibson is a God-fearing company. Attempting perfection is always tantamount to sacrilege and inherently doomed.  ;D
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

the mojo hobo

Quote from: dadagoboi on April 24, 2012, 04:32:32 PM
Easily fixed by drilling a stepped hole. 

They probably drill those holes after the body is finished and the step would be bare wood.

They could just drill the holes perpendicular to the slope of the body, but then it would look like it didn't lay flat.

Anyway, it would be too much trouble for them to change their manufacturing procedure for the handful of basses they build.

gibran

Thanks to all. I greatly appreciate your feedback. I like my bass and I can live with it not being flush. Now I know it's a design flaw, not mine alone. It was better the bridge warwick on the penultimate model Les Paul. Anyway it sounds great!
Can someone (owner of the same bass) post a picture as my? Just to compare, and reassure myself...  Regards.

eb2

Too bad.  Did this ever happen on the old blob bridge, or the Evertilt?  I don't think so.
Model One and Schallers?  Ish.

uwe

Quote from: gibran on April 24, 2012, 06:24:30 PM
Thanks to all. I greatly appreciate your feedback. I like my bass and I can live with it not being flush. Now I know it's a design flaw, not mine alone. It was better the bridge warwick on the penultimate model Les Paul. Anyway it sounds great!
Can someone (owner of the same bass) post a picture as my? Just to compare, and reassure myself...  Regards.

A doubting Thomas this Gibran is!!! Feel my wounds ...



We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

drbassman

Quote from: eb2 on April 24, 2012, 06:43:54 PM
Too bad.  Did this ever happen on the old blob bridge, or the Evertilt?  I don't think so.

I had it happen on a couple 3 point Epis, but not a Gibson.
I'm fixin' a hole where the rain gets in..........cuz I'm built for a kilt!

Grog

Quote from: uwe on April 24, 2012, 07:07:26 PM
A doubting Thomas this Gibran is!!! Feel my wounds ...





Mine looks about the same as Uwe's. I can't help but wonder why they didn't countersink the hole a bit to get it down past the carved top radius...............
There's no such thing as gravity, the earth just sucks!!

gibran

Quote from: uwe on April 24, 2012, 07:07:26 PM
A doubting Thomas this Gibran is!!! Feel my wounds ...

Very very fun!  ;D :thumbsup:

Thank you for your patience.   Now I Believe.... ;)

drbassman

Mine were higher than Uwe's, I should have snapped a picture before I took it back.  They were also tilting toward the heel of the neck.   I think it's best to watch them closely and it you can detect movement, have it fixed.  As for countersinking, a junior designer could have thought of that.  Again, someone was asleep at the switch.........

A good preventative move would be using light tension TI strings.  Costly, but much less hassle than repairs.
I'm fixin' a hole where the rain gets in..........cuz I'm built for a kilt!

Droombolus

Quote from: drbassman on April 24, 2012, 07:28:59 PM
I had it happen on a couple 3 point Epis, but not a Gibson.

I had the "problem" with both on Epi's & Gibbie's .... I fixed my SG Bass some months ago, but they hold steady on both Supremes  8). On my last run of Epi's I had to fix 3 out of 4 ......
Experience is the ultimate teacher

uwe

No doubt this could have been solved better from an esthetic viewpoint. You wouldn't catch a Yamaha, an Ibanez or a Warwick with that type of a makeshift solution.
We've taken too much for granted ... and all the time it had grown ...
From techno seeds we first planted ... evolved a mind of its own ...

Barklessdog

Quote from: uwe on April 25, 2012, 05:12:28 AM
No doubt this could have been solved better from an esthetic viewpoint. You wouldn't catch a Yamaha, an Ibanez or a Warwick with that type of a makeshift solution.

Really how much extra would it of been to counter sink them?

One extra step when drilling the holes?


dadagoboi

Quote from: Barklessdog on April 25, 2012, 05:34:32 AM
Really how much extra would it of been to counter sink them?

One extra step when drilling the holes?



A counterbored (flat bottomed stepped) hole can be done in one step with a CNC machine or manually in two steps with a piloted bit.  A countersink makes an angled hole.


drbassman

Quote from: dadagoboi on April 25, 2012, 05:56:45 AM
A counterbored (flat bottomed stepped) hole can be done in one step with a CNC machine or manually in two steps with a piloted bit.  A countersink makes an angled hole.



I don't understand why a countersink makes an angled hole?  That doesn't compute in my muddled brain.
I'm fixin' a hole where the rain gets in..........cuz I'm built for a kilt!

dadagoboi

Quote from: drbassman on April 25, 2012, 06:14:34 AM
I don't understand why a countersink makes an angled hole?  That doesn't compute in my muddled brain.

countersink


counterbore with pilot, it drills a flat bottomed hole.