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Title: oh, dr. sun ra.
Post by: nofi on September 17, 2015, 08:22:51 AM: http://www.openculture.com/2015/09/sun-ra-plays-a-music-therapy-gig-at-a-mental-hospital-inspires-patient-to-talk-for-the-first-time-in-years.html
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Post by: Granny Gremlin on September 17, 2015, 08:50:43 AM: For a moment I confused Sun Ra with Sunn O))) and it was interesting how that totally changes the psychology of this (either way) wonderful turn of events.
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Post by: nofi on September 17, 2015, 09:28:21 AM: sunn o would produce even more catatonics. :o
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Post by: Alanko on September 17, 2015, 10:23:38 AM: Callin' Planet Earth! Callin' Planet Earth!

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I dunno man... I appreciate a lot of jazz, but Sun Ra stuff just seems a bit sloppy. He also seems like quite an intense, scary figure, ruling his band(s) with an iron rod.

If I must listen to jazz-tinged space opera music I listen to the band Magma. Their leader is probably no less scary or intense however.
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Post by: dadagoboi on September 17, 2015, 12:54:04 PM: I saw Sun Ra in NYC, March 1968 with his Arkestra at Slug's. It was pretty amazing!
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Post by: Father Gino on September 17, 2015, 01:52:33 PM: Quote from: Alanko on September 17, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
I dunno man... I appreciate a lot of jazz, but Sun Ra stuff just seems a bit sloppy.

Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpcyrlR7bhM&list=PLWBoqYr-dwwSPTgQ0K0aKIe0KYUM4KpsS&index=5

This is from 1956. He was an early adopter of the electric piano. He also has an upright and electric bass at the same time. He and his band wore their crazy home made costumes even then. I only saw him once live and the thing that I appreciated most about that experience was confirming that the man had a sense of humor.
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Post by: uwe on September 18, 2015, 07:33:39 AM: I find that pleasant music, what is supposed to make it so hard to listen to?

And I don't doubt for a minute that music can reach people in a way nothing else can.
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Post by: Pilgrim on September 18, 2015, 08:17:24 AM: Pretty classic 50's jazz, and at least that cut is very listenable.
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Post by: nofi on September 18, 2015, 08:59:37 AM: uwe, i guess you haven't found the hard to listen to stuff. that comes along in the sixties and early seventies. as is your custom i suggest you buy all of his cds and work your way through them. there couldn't be more than 100 or so. ;D
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Post by: uwe on September 21, 2015, 01:51:35 PM: If I wasn't so autistic, I'd detect some irony there! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Worse than Bitches Brew then? That took a while. Still can't hum most of it.
Title: Re: oh, dr. sun ra.
Post by: patman on September 21, 2015, 03:53:11 PM: Bitches Brew is a personal favorite, but it does take a little work.
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Post by: nofi on September 21, 2015, 04:00:38 PM: i like it too but when it was released jazz critics lost their ever lovin' minds. uwe, check out bap-tizm by the art ensemble of chicago. ;D
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Post by: uwe on September 22, 2015, 02:34:20 AM: I like Bitches Brew too, but the music on it is so abstract, it's a bit like an ambience soundtrack. Maybe that is what Miles wanted - together with the ingestion of the appropriate drugs!
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Post by: patman on September 22, 2015, 05:10:33 AM: I think it was Miles attempt to show that any note could be played over any chord, and if properly set up would sound fine...to break the chains of Mozart/Charlie Parker/Dizzy Gillespie inspired harmonic theory...

Just my opinion...yours may vary!
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Post by: uwe on September 22, 2015, 05:39:57 AM: I think he did it better than Nirvana, ignoring harmonic theory I mean.
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Post by: patman on September 22, 2015, 06:29:18 AM: He was rather well educated before he threw the rules out the window...there is a difference.
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Post by: nofi on September 22, 2015, 06:59:30 AM: miles went to julliard for awhile so his' formal' education is intact. rules, rules and rules. you are so german, uwe. ;D
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Post by: uwe on September 22, 2015, 07:35:57 AM: Our diesel engines are just perfect!
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Post by: uwe on September 22, 2015, 07:46:17 AM: Quote from: patman on September 22, 2015, 06:29:18 AM
He was rather well educated before he threw the rules out the window...there is a difference.

True. That is why I value Miles Davis over Kurt Cobain.
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Post by: patman on September 22, 2015, 04:24:51 PM: try "Miles Ahead"...possibly my favorite...even over "Sketches of Spain"
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Post by: uwe on September 23, 2015, 05:13:42 AM: I love Sketches of Spain!