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Title: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 28, 2011, 08:37:13 PM
Came across this cool site documenting a Mahogany 51 P bass build with TV Jones Thundertrons and  even a maho neck.
Looks like a great concept. I'm not sure I would have put the Badass2 on it though. I reckon I would have tried something like one of Scotts bridges.
http://www.cyrguitars.com/CG_PBassProject_TV_Jones.html (http://www.cyrguitars.com/CG_PBassProject_TV_Jones.html)

(http://www.cyrguitars.com/CG_Bass_Completed_01.JPG)
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Psycho Bass Guy on June 28, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
Is it just me or is that thing short scale?
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Dave W on June 28, 2011, 09:59:47 PM
I don't think so.

I do like the pickup placement.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Pilgrim on June 29, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
I do like that.  Not a Badass fan here either, but overall one mighty attractive and interesting bass.  Love to hear what it sounds like.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: jumbodbassman on June 29, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
Steve Cyr makes interesting stuff but his turnaround time is unacceptable.  I had to prepay for a neck about 15 months ago and still waiting.  these pictures showed up in march and still no word from him ???

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/SCROLLS/CYR1.jpg)

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/SCROLLS/CYR2.jpg)

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/SCROLLS/CYR3.jpg)

scroll body i supplied

(http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/desantisjn/SCROLLS/CYR4.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: gweimer on June 29, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
Hey, don't feel bad.  I was on a 2 year wait list for my Johnson Scroll bass, and it took three years to get it.  It's a beautiful bass, and well worth the wait, but Bruce has a lot of commitments, so be prepared to wait and adjust your expectations.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: ilan on June 29, 2011, 11:42:11 PM
I don't see what's "51" about it, other than the headstock shape.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Basvarken on June 30, 2011, 02:40:53 AM
Hmmm, I'm not convinced either Bret. Headstock looks too large. The controls are in the wrong place the jackinput is plain ugly...

When I saw the title I thought you had discovered an old BaCH bass.


I had their 50's P bass with mahogany body and neck (maple fretboard)
That's where my whole history with BaCH starts.

(http://www.superfloor.net/telebass7.jpg)


I soon replaced the two saddle bridge for a string through body four saddle bridge.
And I placed some chrome covers.


(http://www.superfloor.net/stringthrubridge.jpg)
(http://www.superfloor.net/pimpedbach.jpg)


I sold it because it was too heavy. And I just didn't use it enough to justify keeping it.
But it was a fine bas with a very authentic P bass sound (maybe a bit warmer).
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 30, 2011, 04:04:42 AM
Easy boys the 51 tag is their quote not my opinion  :) "The body is two-piece, cut to the classic '51 Precision Bass shape, but with forearm and belly contours"

Now that I see it I remember that Bach bass Rob. I've gotta admit I dont like the placement or design of the controls either. Or the strat style jack input. I  just thought it interesting because of the Mahogany body and the Thundertrons in a 7end3r setting.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: dadagoboi on June 30, 2011, 05:30:30 AM
"The body is two-piece, cut to the classic '51 Precision Bass shape, but with forearm and belly contours"

Bad sign IMO when a builder does not know the contours were added in '55 by Fender pre split coil '57.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Basvarken on June 30, 2011, 05:45:48 AM
Who says he doesn't know?
He just chose to make it more ergonomical
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: dadagoboi on June 30, 2011, 06:12:30 AM
Who says he doesn't know?
He just chose to make it more ergonomical

'55, '56,'57 Chevrolets are almost exactly the same; They share doors, roof, windows, trunk, etc and most mechanicals.  But anyone who knows vintage Chevys can identify a '55, 56 or '57 from probably 100 yards.  The early Fenders are the equivalent in basses.  That's why I inferred from his description he doesn't know his Precisions.

I know very little about "Hobbits" but I'm sure the different versions are easily IDed by aficionados.  Ditto Ricks.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Freuds_Cat on June 30, 2011, 06:20:39 AM
The guy does say "a 51 BUT WITH forearm and belly contours". Suggests that he realises a 51 didnt have them.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: jumbodbassman on June 30, 2011, 08:36:01 AM
Hey, don't feel bad.  I was on a 2 year wait list for my Johnson Scroll bass, and it took three years to get it.  It's a beautiful bass, and well worth the wait, but Bruce has a lot of commitments, so be prepared to wait and adjust your expectations.

bruce has my deposit for a devil bass since 2004..... i was on the wait list for the scroll until a few guys ahead of me cancelled..
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: dadagoboi on June 30, 2011, 09:11:49 AM
The guy does say "a 51 BUT WITH forearm and belly contours". Suggests that he realises a 51 didnt have them.

I don't understand his implying he's done something unique if he knows differently.  Easier to say what it is exactly... '56 P style body' maybe, since all of them that year were like that.


Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Dave W on June 30, 2011, 09:38:41 AM
Aside from the body contours, body wood, neck wood, fretboard wood, tuners, pickups, pickup placement, bridge, jack, control plate, controls and missing pickguard, it's EXACTLY like a 51 P.  ;D
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: ramone57 on June 30, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
now that's funny, Dave!
 ;D
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: lowend1 on July 01, 2011, 04:37:38 AM
If you look at the pics in the link closely, the body (aside from the aforementioned contours) seems to have the harder slab-style edge than, for example, Rob's Bach. Maybe that's the reason he used "'51". Also, the Squier "51" guitar has the same mismatched features - not that it has any bearing on this particular project, but there you go...
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Pilgrim on July 01, 2011, 08:05:04 AM
I don't see why it has to be a carbon copy of a '51.  That has been done to death for 60 years.  I'm happy with something that captures the spirit and visual appeal of the '51.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: OldManC on July 01, 2011, 01:37:30 PM
'55, '56,'57 Chevrolets are almost exactly the same; They share doors, roof, windows, trunk, etc and most mechanicals.  But anyone who knows vintage Chevys can identify a '55, 56 or '57 from probably 100 yards. 

Aye... Even when we've mixed and matched our favorite touches between years.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/dudepit/562101-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Pilgrim on July 01, 2011, 01:39:16 PM
Aye... Even when we've mixed and matched our favorite touches between years.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/gcarlston/dudepit/562101-1.jpg)

Ask any kid to find the gas cap on a '56 through '59 Chevy....good for a chuckle.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Dave W on July 01, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
I don't see why it has to be a carbon copy of a '51.  That has been done to death for 60 years.  I'm happy with something that captures the spirit and visual appeal of the '51.

It doesn't. I was just having a little fun.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: lowend1 on July 02, 2011, 05:30:20 AM
Ask any kid to find the gas cap on a '56 through '59 Chevy....good for a chuckle.

"Kid"? Maybe in 1975. These days gas station attendants are of a decidedly different, er, stripe - but they couldn't find it either. They can't even find the cap on my '79 Chrysler (under the license plate like the '59 Chevy). As a former gas pump jockey, I can find the others. (pats self on back)
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Pilgrim on July 02, 2011, 06:07:34 AM
I stumped a fellow college student about the gas cap location on a '57 Chev back in 1971. 
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: lowend1 on July 02, 2011, 06:47:14 AM
I stumped a fellow college student about the gas cap location on a '57 Chev back in 1971. 

I used to call up parts stores back in the day and ask for a radiator hoses for a Corvair. It's no fun anymore unless you get an old guy. Nowadays most people don't even know what a Corvair is.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Dave W on July 02, 2011, 07:18:19 AM
I used to call up parts stores back in the day and ask for a radiator hoses for a Corvair. It's no fun anymore unless you get an old guy. Nowadays most people don't even know what a Corvair is.

The Corvair radiator hoses are located on the shelf right below the Wankel pistons.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: dadagoboi on July 02, 2011, 07:20:44 AM
The Corvair radiator hoses are located on the shelf right below the Wankel pistons.

..close to the muffler bearings
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Freuds_Cat on July 02, 2011, 07:36:27 AM
The Corvair radiator hoses are located on the shelf right below the Wankel pistons.

Hey even I get that!  :o ;D
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: bassvirtuoso on July 02, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
..close to the muffler bearings

Next to the large display of blinker fluid
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Pilgrim on July 02, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
Next to the large display of blinker fluid

And the windshield washer pump for the 1968 VW Beetle.
Title: Re: Cool Mahogany 51 P bass project
Post by: Highlander on July 03, 2011, 05:35:42 AM
... or a present day innovative Fender design...

Full circle...