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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 30, 2021, 01:38:26 PM »
Beautiful work Brad, love the Gulf color scheme very cool!

Thanks, Scott!

Back to work...parts is parts.




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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 28, 2021, 01:30:54 PM »
Thanks guys, I'm pretty excited about that build!

Not much excitement here, just a reminder that all of my necks are assembled using EZ Lok carbon steel inserts and 8-32 machine screws.


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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 23, 2021, 09:00:27 PM »
I like to think of these as GT40 colors, but I think they're actually Porsche Gulf Livery. Tis enough, twill serve.




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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 23, 2021, 07:58:07 AM »
Armadillo Guitar may be able to help you.

https://www.armadilloguitar.com/

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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 22, 2021, 05:03:13 PM »
Well, that's a bummer. The OEM I'm working with has long lead times an minimum quantity orders, so I'm not sure if they would be of much help. It's a shame that ETS is having issues.

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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 22, 2021, 03:00:47 PM »
Well, I cheered too early. The bridge sets came in today. And they didn't make what I asked. I can only use one set of the three they made.
Guess it's time I found a new hardware tooling company...

I'm really sorry to hear that. Will the Sung Il bridges get the job done for your current builds? Have you reached out to Tom @ König Bassworx?

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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 22, 2021, 12:21:08 PM »
Thank you! The hexagonal rings and bridges were originally intended to be "trade dress", but I learned they could never have been trademarked. Now that I can't get them made, I decided to reconsider the design concept. 

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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 21, 2021, 08:03:45 PM »
Due to backlogs and capacity challenges in their core business, my current OEM is no longer able to supply me with custom hardware. Also, I'm seeing a LOT of builders on Instagram using hexagonal pickup rings, so...it's time for a new OEM and an updated perimeter shape. The new outline is backwards compatible with my current rings & rout and refines the design in a way that covers the rout in a simpler, less obtrusive, and (I think) more appealing manner.

The new designs are laser cut from mild steel by Send Cut Send, the mounting holes are countersunk on my drill press, then they're shipped off to Advanced Plating in Nashville to be plated in shiny chrome. The updated control plate is configured so a Switchcraft toggle can be mounted on one end or in the middle. A #7 O-ring will perfectly center a CTS pot in the oversized hole for V/V/T applications. 








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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: Lowe Shop Notes
« on: December 21, 2021, 03:58:07 PM »
Between the pandemic, building a house in 2020, building a pool in 2021, and supply chain challenges, my builds have been at a standstill for a while. That's all about to change. I'm off work between now and January 3 and I have a pretty good backlog of inventory...the wheels are in motion! Here's the first update, installing machines and fitting the neck on a Chromasonic V that's been in the pipeline for longer than I care to admit.




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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 21, 2021, 08:28:42 AM »
Well the miracle has finally happened. The bridge sets are ready and on their way to my address...

That's fantastic, I'm so glad it worked out!

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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 20, 2021, 09:24:51 PM »
So, the backstory on this bass is that I've become more than a little obsessed with 8 and 12-string basses over the last couple of years, so much so that I've designed an 8-string bass bridge that is currently in the prototyping phase. Independent of that, I somewhat recently became Facebook friends with a man named Bob Singer, and he reached out to me about a custom build.

In the process of discussing details (he's buying a bass that was abandoned by another customer), I realized he is the owner of Waterstone. I mentioned that I'm a fan of the brand and we chatted on the phone at some length. Something I didn't realize is that Waterstones are made by Mirr in Korea, the same shop that makes Reverend, Duesenberg, PureSalem, MusicVox, and others. Mirr is an OEM that is not as well known as some others, but their build quality is second to none. As many folks know, I'm a huge fan of 32" scale basses, so once I realized that the 20th Anniversary TP-12 is medium scale, I was hooked...I had to have it!

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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 20, 2021, 06:41:13 AM »
I remember reading that you were having issues with ETS and I'm sorry to hear that. I was given a link to an EY Guitars listing for the BM-108 & TS-108 on Reverb.com by ESP/LTD customer service when I inquired about the bridge they use on their 8-string basses.

Somebody else made the connection between Sung Il (Korea) and the EY Guitars manufacturing facility/distribution center (China). The EY Guitar listing uses the same part number, photo, and spec sheet as the Sung Il site, so it seems like a pretty safe bet that they one and the same. 

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Other Bass Brands / Re: NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 19, 2021, 02:42:51 PM »
Is the brIdge that Waterstone uses what you expected from the researsch you’ve been doing?

Yes, I'm 99.9% certain it's the Sung Il BM108 and TS108 shown in the links below, but with extra holes drilled for the second octave course. All of the critical dimensions are identical, and as an FYI, the base of the bridge block is 10mm thick and the wings with the intonation screws are 2mm thick. I have difficulty imagining these could deflect under tension like I heard the older import bridges might, but I suppose anything is possible. As you noted previously , string spacing is 66mm.

Chrome,8 Strings Brass Flat Bottom Base Bridge,BM-108CR-XB-1
Chrome,8 Strings Flat Bottom Base Tail,TS-108CR-XB-17087

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The Outpost Cafe / Re: The Beatles Get Back Documentary
« on: December 18, 2021, 01:37:06 PM »
[...] Like a bright kid in school who is so ahead of the rest of the class he starts to do subversive stuff.

That's exactly how I perceive John and why I find him compelling.

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Other Bass Brands / NBD: Waterstone 20th Anniversary TP-12 32" Scale
« on: December 18, 2021, 12:37:48 PM »
This thing is a beast...I'll post more information after I've spent some time with it.

https://reverb.com/item/44200295-waterstone-20th-anniversary-tp-12-bass-guitar-2022-onyx






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