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Title: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 01, 2013, 06:36:53 AM
 I recently learned that my old bass teacher Joe Noto had passed, I found him online, I was so excited but as I read the page I found out he had passed the year before. Joe was a very cool cat, mainly a trumpet flugle horn player he was also a fine bassist. He even toured with a 60's act that had a number of hits, I wish I could remember the name. He played a beautiful sunburst /maple neck 70's Fender Precision. I wish I could find out what happened to his or buy one just like it but I really can't afford a real 70's right now so in tribute to my old teacher I am building a replica of his bass. This is the start! http://www.ebay.com/itm/190795207294?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Basvarken on March 01, 2013, 09:04:38 AM
That's a cool way to pay tribute!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: chromium on March 01, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
Man the same exact thing happened to me!  I had stopped playing for years, and when I picked it up again it was around 2002.  I had looked up the guy I had taken lessons from for four years (mid-1980s) thinking I'd send him a note and say "Hi"... and found out that he had passed away a few years prior from pancreatic cancer.  His name was Ethan Atkinson.  Really sad- he was a good guy, and very gifted jazz guitarist and equally proficient bassist.  In fact, I had approached him for guitar lessons but he convinced me to give bass a try due to the demand he saw for bassists at that time in the Houston area.  Learned a lot from him, and he always seemed to be into gear too - he had an early Precision (~65, IIRC) and I remember REALLY liking how that thing played.  Also had a nice playing black Precision Elite II, and one of those all-walnut Precisions.  Had several nice guitars as well.  He was a big early influence on my GAS!  ;D

I'll never forget one year- I had gotten into electronics mainly just so I could build effects and other music stuff that I couldn't afford to buy.  I had built a little envelope follower pedal and gave it to him as a Xmas gift... The next week he brought in a milk-crate with a bunch of old pedals that he gave to me.  Two original Dunlop Cry Babys, a Ram's Head Big Muff, some channel-switcher pedal for a Sunn, and (still) one of my favorite pedals - a Sola Sound wah.  I was probably 14 or so- and needless to say I was beside myself!

So... I know the feeling  :sad:  Good luck with the project - that'll be a nice tribute
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 01, 2013, 02:24:54 PM
Nice idea...

I have nothing similar to look back on as when I bought my first (electric) bass I just listened to LP's and that's how I learned to play - I never got into playing the upright properly whilst at school and just dabbled at playing... I never took anything seriously in those days...
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Hörnisse on March 01, 2013, 05:55:04 PM
I've got a BWB pickguard (used) I could send your way.  I have a couple of rosewood board necks but no maple board ones.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: drbassman on March 02, 2013, 04:57:20 AM
Sorry to hear that Scott.  Cool idea you have!  I think about a couple of my old long gone professors all of the time and how they influenced my life.  We meet so many wonderful people on our journey, it is good to pay tribute.  Keep us posted on your progress.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 02, 2013, 06:47:44 AM
 Thanks for the offer!  If the guard doesn't have the cut at the base of the neck for the truss rod I am interested in it! Thanks!
I've got a BWB pickguard (used) I could send your way.  I have a couple of rosewood board necks but no maple board ones.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Hörnisse on March 02, 2013, 06:59:28 PM
No cutout for the rod.  It doesn't have the holes for the pickup chrome cover nor that extra screw hole in front of the pickup like the real late 70's pickguards have.  Has some swirling but not real bad.  PM me your address and I'll send it out in Monday's mail if you still want it.  This is the only pic I have of it at the moment.  Dr. Sox was helping me out when I was cleaning up the bass a bit.  It has a bit of screw driver wear up by the rod adjustment area. 

(http://i46.tinypic.com/34g0bbm.jpg)

Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: OldManC on March 02, 2013, 07:47:21 PM
Dr. Sox looks like a cool dude.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 03, 2013, 06:37:14 AM
 Pmd on the pg! Thanks. I am looking forward to this, I have really been enjoying dabbling in fretless. I do use my walnut '75 for three songs a night. More and more when I sit on the couch to noodle it's the fretless I have in my hands. From three years ago when I first got the fretless. This is before I bought the walnut body. The body in the video is what came with it, it's Japan something or other. http://youtu.be/3RdCZn-rbjc
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 03, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
I barely touch frets these days...
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 07, 2013, 05:43:12 AM
 Totaly bummed. The neck showed up yesterday. The fingerboard has been refinished. I paid a premium for this thing $500 bucks. The finish is way to new and thin to be stock, also it is tinted amber and doesn't match the back of the neck as it should. Who ever refinished it tried to match the amber of the headstock. 70's headstock were shot in lacquer which ambers over time the polyester used on the back of the neck and fingerboard does not. The seller won't drop the price but will take it back. Back to square one again.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 07, 2013, 05:53:52 AM
[zen] Patience, Glasshopper... [/zen]

At least you get payback and not a critical loss...
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: drbassman on March 07, 2013, 07:53:57 AM
Totaly bummed. The neck showed up yesterday. The fingerboard has been refinished. I paid a premium for this thing $500 bucks. The finish is way to new and thin to be stock, also it is tinted amber and doesn't match the back of the neck as it should. Who ever refinished it tried to match the amber of the headstock. 70's headstock were shot in lacquer which ambers over time the polyester used on the back of the neck and fingerboard does not. The seller won't drop the price but will take it back. Back to square one again.

What a douchbag.  He had to know better!  Good luck with your hunt.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Dave W on March 07, 2013, 10:07:28 AM
Too bad. Agree with Bill, if the seller knew enough to charge that much for a vintage neck, he had to know what he was selling.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 10, 2013, 08:36:09 AM
 Well they took it back and I'll even get a refund for shipping but for now my project is stalled :(
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 12, 2013, 06:03:10 AM
 Stalled no more! Super clean with tuners! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Fender-Precision-Fretless-P-Bass-Neck-Made-in-USA-/130866497431?fb_action_ids=10151499611568415&fb_action_types=ebay-objects%3Aown&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582&fb_source=aggregation&nma=true&si=BlJdAdzslnZdJOGKx8LyE0KLQNY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: drbassman on March 12, 2013, 06:37:31 AM
Wow, nice!  Did you buy it?  I wasn't sure from the posting.
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 12, 2013, 06:38:48 AM
 Oh yeah I Binned that puppy!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: drbassman on March 12, 2013, 10:06:26 AM
Oh yeah I Binned that puppy!

Congrats!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Denis on March 12, 2013, 02:13:36 PM
Great score!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 12, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
Thanks! With the tuners and free shipping I think it was well worth it.  ;)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 14, 2013, 12:51:21 PM
 It arrived today! Unbelievably good condition! Pics. soon!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 14, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
 It's not wired up dummy pots and wrong pg. Plays great, looks wicked cool! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/maplefretlessPbass005.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/maplefretlessPbass001.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/maplefretlessPbass002.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/maplefretlessPbass004.jpg)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2013, 01:42:01 PM
Put the new one next to this one... peas in a pod...?
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 14, 2013, 01:49:35 PM
 Pretty much Kenny! I am going to do a Fender family picture, after the missus goes to work tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2013, 01:50:55 PM
Getting all the porn out after the missus pops out... ;D
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 14, 2013, 01:59:47 PM
 LMAO! Married 25 years I'd like to think I've learned a few things along the way ;)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2013, 02:07:40 PM
"porn", as in the instruments, dear chap... all those you've sneaked in the house without letting her know... ;D
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 14, 2013, 02:53:24 PM
 Kenny I have been talking about basses the whole time not sure what youre going on about, care to elaborate?
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 14, 2013, 03:05:56 PM
I know... that's what I mean too... ;)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Pilgrim on March 14, 2013, 07:24:55 PM
Kenny I have been talking about basses the whole time not sure what youre going on about, care to elaborate?

You know how the mind(s) drift around here...
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Highlander on March 15, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
Fret not, my friends...
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: godofthunder on March 18, 2013, 06:49:24 AM
Maybe this will get you guys back on track  ;D  All wired up CTS pots, Switchcraft jack, .047 orange drop. The pick up is a old Ibanez, I am keeping my eye out for something authentic. Even drilled the holes for the bridge cover just didn't look right without them.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/70sfretlessFenderPrecision001.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/70sfretlessFenderPrecision002.jpg)
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Denis on March 18, 2013, 06:58:09 AM
Fret not, my friends...

Ha!
Title: Re: 70's style Fretless P bass
Post by: Hörnisse on March 18, 2013, 05:53:19 PM
Sweet!  One of these days I'm going to buy a Sunburst '77 Fretless with the one piece maple blank plank neck.  I've wanted one ever since seeing a picture of Kenny Passarelli playing one in the booklet that came with Elton John's Greatest Hits Part II.  I just love the way they do the burst finishes on the 1977 basses.