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Title: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on May 06, 2009, 05:29:38 AM
...and apparently he's pulled out all the stops to refute the claims. There's a line here that cuts real deep - well, at least down to the scalp...
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=118394
and the earlier
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/Blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=118313
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 06, 2009, 06:48:21 AM
Terry ... is Terry around?  :-X :-X :-X

As he's not around let me say this:

No one can explain to me why Coverdale's voice sounds sometimes youthfully spot-on and then again hoarse and broken during one performance of one song in one key on one night. Unless the voice comes from two different sources. Nuff said (or sung and played back). Coverdale could never sing Still of the Night well live, even in the late eighties, it was a one-off studio high performance shortly after his successful throat operation (his voice hasn't been the same live since then). Jon Lord - who played with Coverdale for nearly a decade all in all (Deep Purple and Whitesnake) and soothed a then still shy and nervous David Coverdale at his first audition with da Purps in 1973 by playing piano ballads to him and inviting him to sing along - once winced when hearing the Coverdale/Page album: "David has this rich baritone voice like nobody else in the business yet insists on pushing his voice into Robert Plant stratosphere - it pains me just to listen to it. He should realize that he is David Coverdale, not Robert Plant."

Turner having witnessed it and saying what he says gives credibility to the whole thing. Turner has no axe to grind with Coverdale, he always said nice and complimentary things about him (unlike about Ian Gillan). And while Turner can act like a real Bozo, his pipes still work live. He's technically a very good singer and hardly ever botches a note, tough luck that he will always have to live with the comparison to what Lou Gramm once was.

To be fair, Whitesnake aren't the first band to have a lead voice via tape live. The last Steve Perry-wannabe with Journey (not the new cute little Asian guy they found via youtube, who sings great live) performed with tapes on an English open air some years ago too.

"There's a line here that cuts real deep - well, at least down to the scalp...".  ;D ;D ;D Coverdale's comment about not performing with a wig is a (cheap) swipe at Turner who has to live with the rumour/truth of actually wearing one live during the last ten years or so.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Pilgrim on May 06, 2009, 07:33:50 AM
Not a controversy for those of us sitting around listening to Dick Dale and Link Wray....
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Dave W on May 06, 2009, 09:52:54 AM
Not a controversy for those of us sitting around listening to Dick Dale and Link Wray....

I'm glad I had just swallowed my coffee when I read that.  ;D
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on May 06, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
"There's a line here that cuts real deep - well, at least down to the scalp...".  ;D ;D ;D Coverdale's comment about not performing with a wig is a (cheap) swipe at Turner who has to live with the rumour/truth of actually wearing one live during the last ten years or so.

TEN years? You're a kind man, Uwe.
My gripe with Joe's singing is that he suffers from the Coverdale disease to some degree as well. He has a great soulful, R&B-tinged rock voice, yet he continually tries to be either a metal or pop vocalist, depending on his mood. Neither one suits him, IMHO. I used to go see Joe with a band called Ezra back in the 70s at local high school dances and concerts here in NJ. I also have a tape of him doing a benefit where he sings a short set of old soul standards - great stuff.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 06, 2009, 12:52:02 PM
Agreed, Turner has a poor choice in material and will sing anything for a dime. I liked what he did with Fandango and on Slaves and Masters better than anything he's done with Rainbow and than most of the stuff post-Purple.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on May 06, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
Agreed, Turner has a poor choice in material and will sing anything for a dime. I liked what he did with Fandango and on Slaves and Masters better than anything he's done with Rainbow and than most of the stuff post-Purple.

I like the Rainbow stuff alot. His solo efforts (and the HTP albums) seem to all include a couple of good cuts and a bunch of subpar tunes. Oddly, his most consistent solo albums are Under Cover/Under Cover 2.

Re Lou Gramm - I think Lou was one of the finest rock singers ever. They don't make them like that anymore.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: OldManC on May 06, 2009, 01:58:30 PM
Turner's not the only one from that group of guys who's been sporting a wig for the last few years. (Decades?) Aye, Richie?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: TBird1958 on May 06, 2009, 02:31:19 PM

 As one that always sports a wig onstage or for other activities (social and.....) I can only condone this........... albeit reluctantly  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: gweimer on May 06, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
As one that always sports a wig onstage or for other activities (social and.....) I can only condone this........... albeit reluctantly  :rolleyes:

There's a difference between donning one because you want to and because you have to.

Has anyone mentioned Gene Simmons yet?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Pilgrim on May 06, 2009, 03:00:37 PM
I'm glad I had just swallowed my coffee when I read that.  ;D

I do what I can!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 06, 2009, 03:04:23 PM
Mark's hair ain't real? What else is fake?!!!

Good point with the Turner covers albums, I like those too, especially that Righteous Brothers tune.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on May 06, 2009, 03:15:57 PM
There's a difference between donning one because you want to and because you have to.

Has anyone mentioned Gene Simmons yet?

Back around 1990 I went to a benefit show at The Stone Pony - it was supposed to be Paul Stanley along with a NY cult band called The Good Rats and Saraya. It wound up being the whole of Kiss, along with JLTurner, a couple of guys from The Rascals, and TM Stevens' band. Between Gene and the rest, there was alot of "rock helmets" on stage that evening. I dubbed the show Night of 1000 Rugs"
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on May 06, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
No vanity hair... err... here...  ;)

Seen all those guys (Gramm/Turner/Coverdale) in there heydays...

Takes a lot to get me to go and see bands live these days... lots of s*dd*ng money...  ;D but seriously, only live acts I've seen in the last decade, no, make that double has been Rush (twice), Neil Young, Emmylou Harris, and Steps (the shame...) as a treat for my daughter (the things we do for love...), and technically speaking, that was a canned show...

Richie wears a wig...? surely not...

Mark... that's a wig...? stunned...  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: TBird1958 on May 06, 2009, 03:57:51 PM
Mark's hair ain't real? What else is fake?!!!


Hey now!

 A girl's gotta have a couple secrets...........besides, Buzz was chastizing me for for T.M.I. just the other day  ;)
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on May 06, 2009, 04:33:37 PM
I know, and I explained to him how dangerous it was to wander too far into your site...  :o  ;)

Re you and your playin' - now I've listened... none of your band sound like musical slouches, although I think your keys player is not used too much effect; don't know if it is the choice of tracks as she plays well enough when she does, some very good guitar playing is evident! Jackie is a good singer, too...
Great bass work; good sound, too... nothing to be ashamed of... damn...! deepest voice I've ever heard on a girl...!  ease up on the gravel gargles... ;D

Right, that's enough bolstering your ego...  ;D

I dip (musically) into anything I can find, which is cheaper than buying, so I can listen on my road trips for work, which can add up... most of what I have found is great listening... I'm still trawling...
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 06, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
I saw JLT at the Hammersmith during the Slaves and Masters tour and it only confirmed what I had already worked out from listening to his stuff with Rainbow.  He sang about 4 songs before his voice went hoarse from blowing it out.  Most of the rest of the show was just a great Purple jam between the other members which was totally fine by me. In fact it was damn fine.

I dont like the sound of JLT's voice there is something whimpery and try hard about it and always has been.

As far as Mr Coverdales voice goes, well, His catalogue speaks for itself IMHO. The fact that he (like all of us) is getting older is sad but inevitable.

Comment Rob?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2009, 04:24:37 AM
I saw him at those three Hammersmith shows too, second or third night I believe. His voice was fine, his stage raps cringeworthy and the band was in fine jammy mood. Turner was a bad choice as a DP vocalist, but for some reason the Slave and Masters album and some shows of the tour actually worked, DP was laid back with Turner, to me it sounded sometimes like a Dire Straits influence had crept in, but Blackmore seemed comfortable with it and hence inspired. But it was clear that it couldn't last and that the novelty effect would wear off. At the time, I thought the tour refreshing because it had them revamp their setlist which had become stale. And Turner showed guts by opening with Burn. More important, most of the SM tracks worked well on stage.

That said, Turner is absolutely charisma-less on stage. None of Gillan's witticism and hilarious puns ("There was a football team from down where I lived in Perfect Street. The Perfect St. Rangers. What a great team! This is a song about them ..." and then DP play Perfect Strangers!), none of Coverdale's mix of macho gaucheness and gentlemanlike behaviour, none of Bonnet's off-the-wall humor and sheer intrepid energy, none of Dio's gripping command. Just some dork from New Jersey who can have a pleasant voice but is kind of embarrassing to be seen with.

Uwe
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: gearHed289 on May 07, 2009, 07:38:57 AM
None of Gillan's witticism and hilarious puns ("There was a football team from down where I lived in Perfect Street. The Perfect St. Rangers. What a great team! This is a song about them ..." and then DP play Perfect Strangers!)

Uwe

LOL! I still use the "cunning linguist" one I picked up from him in '84. Along with Lynott's "any of you girls like a little MORE Irish in ya?" Hey, I'm an entertainer!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 07, 2009, 03:45:29 PM
I dissagree with you Uwe, JLT got through Burn ....just (his voice is too thin) and by about another 4 or 5 songs he had no balls left in his voice at all. Personally I thought all of the EXTRA jamming was because DP knew he was struggling. I've seen DP 4 times with 3 with different lineups and they definitely were more relaxed than usual I will give you that, but there was a lot more jamming going on....which I love. I expect there were a few songs that didnt make it on the list that night.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on May 07, 2009, 04:29:24 PM
I haven't seen DP since the 80's saw mk2a a few times and mk4 once...

Saw JLT in Rainbow a couple of times (saw 5 variants - but Dio and "Rainbow at the Rainbow" was rather special...) and he was pretty good, but definitely generic... Hendrix covers by Ritchie...? where did that come from...?

Not bought any DP since Perfect Strangers... but used to be quite keen on Steve Morse (saw Dixie Dregs supporting an Allmans spin-off called Sea Level) so anyone care to recommend anything to go for, and don't say "all" please Uwe...  :)
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2009, 04:55:59 PM
Purpendicular - the first album with Steve Morse in Purple is still the best effort of that line up. Unleashed from Blackmore's reign of intimidation, the band was creative and firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on May 07, 2009, 04:59:33 PM
Re JLT's Hammersmith performance: Are you sure we saw the same night? I have bootlegs of the other nights too and on one - not the one I saw - Turner is indeed straining. My night was not the one where they attempted - yes ... - Yesterday, the old Macca chestnut.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on May 07, 2009, 05:28:11 PM
Ta Uwe, I'll check it out...
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 07, 2009, 06:07:58 PM
OK Ken, degrees of separation right?

Deep Purple - Roger Glover
Allmans - Warren Haynes

= Govt Mule - The Deep End vol 1  - Maybye I'm a Leo


I missed Rainbow with Dio in 78 (I think itwas) ....still getting therapy for that.


Although I just found out that Heaven and Hell are plaing here in June. Looks like will gett to see Dio and the boys after all :)
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Freuds_Cat on May 07, 2009, 06:11:51 PM
I must have seen the "Straining" night I guess. My memory is too foggy to remember weather or not they did Yesterday.  I really remember a stack of jamming and really enjoying watching them having fun passing the ball and trying to get each other to slip.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on May 08, 2009, 01:48:42 AM
Coverdale ROOLS! He outshines Plant on the highs & croons the lows better than anyone!
Coverdale Page is the best album of the 90s! Been blastin' it a lot again lately.

Turner can go piss off a cliff.

I will tell you that I ain't goin' to any WS shows this time in Cali.
Only cuz they've got just an opening slot & I've got no money to BUUUUUURRRRRRRN!
Not wild about the headliners at all.

Been listening to WS today~ Slide It In & Good To Be Bad. Both are brilliant albums!!

Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Basvarken on May 08, 2009, 01:57:48 AM
We were going to do another support act for Whitesnake in june. But this week we heard that the show has been cancelled because of disappointing ticket sales...

Guess the Coverdale fans were a bit disappointed after the last WS gig in december? Or ticket prices are too steep? Or...?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 12, 2009, 09:57:41 AM
Fresh from the official Whitesnake news alert:

Whitesnake U.S. Tour Announcement
08-12-2009
"Unfortunately, last night at the Red Rocks Amphitheater, Denver, Whitesnake had to cut their performance short due to Mr Coverdale experiencing considerable pain in his vocal chords. He was immediately taken to a specialist for examination. The specialist discovered that David was suffering from severe vocal fold edema and a left vocal fold vascular lesion. He was instructed to cancel all performances for the next two weeks & then undergo a further examination. The doctors told us we were fortunate this was caught at a stage where no apparent permanent damage has been caused. We therefore regretfully have to announce that Whitesnake will not be appearing on the remainder of the US tour with Judas Priest, Whitesnake sincerely regrets any disappointment this may cause."

What this means is that Coverdale has been singing his rich baritone to shreds all these years - the darn idiot - just because after his first vocal chord operation mid-eighthies he had a short phase where he could reach never-believed Robert Plant-like tones and then over-indulged in that screaming frenzy. Tragic. What a vocal waste. And this from a man whose once rich male voice graced a track like this (for the uninitiated: higher second voice alternating in the verses and singing harmony in the chorus is Hughes, not Coverdale):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Sr_ji-6K0


And then this happened  :rolleyes:, David Coverscreech:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UyWHdXb_CY


Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: leftybass on August 12, 2009, 10:47:21 AM
Quote
I have worked with some of the finest musicians in contemporary music

Contemporary music?  I thought he was in Whitesnake.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 12, 2009, 12:50:41 PM
Thanks for the news, Uwe, altho for a fan you are awfully harsh.
Just wrote him a message sendin' good vibes for a speedy & thorough recovery.
May he soon get back the ability to perform his legendary vocal gymnastics!!!

...& HEADLINE again!!!
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 12, 2009, 02:27:42 PM
I'm so harsh because his voice used to be among my favorite male rock voices. I loved it when he sang a simple melody soulfully.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHdUp-CXJ6Y&feature=related

Without any vocal histrionics which I don't go for. I never understood the excitement about Robert Plant who in my opinion uses his voice as if he were the second lead guitar in Led Zep (which is his charm I guess), not as a means of communicating content or emotion. Is anybody ever touched, amused or inspired by Led Zep lyrics? This with all due respect to Herr Plant who has a one of a kind voice, but it doesn't really need or transport lyrics. Now slaughter me, Led Zep fans, I can't help myself.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on August 12, 2009, 04:38:48 PM
Uwe... beware of causing too much unrest with the natives; they are likely to attack when you least expect it, probably on the Purple flank; unlikely to try an assault on your massed ranks of Gibsons, too well respected, my dear boy... Now, where did I put my gin and my copy of the Times...?

I followed the early lineup all over the place, took hundreds of pics, even had a couple in one of the tour programmes (one shot was DC holding a copy of the "Lovehunter" tour programme which he had just signed for me, but now lives in Japan (sold at a record fair, along with my rather faded '76 DP tour shirt) and was in a collage in the "come and get it" prog, IIRC; took a pic of a drumming friend shaking hands with Paice which I had blown up to poster size for his 21st); saw them at the Lyceum pre Paice, the Hammy O (did I take pics at these shows, I was front (2nd?) row, must have done, must check) for both the nights they released recordings (right in front of the "stage right" audience mike, so I know I'm on the Hammersmith Choir" for "Ain't No Love...", at the Rainbow (John Lord gifted me the tickets - a true Gent, if ever there was one - the Rainbow Anniversary week, that's where I sold a batch of pics direct to DC, which he paid for from a "look at my wad" roll of twenties he took out of his pocket!, also part of JL's favour to me; he went out of his way and I believe he "payed" to make sure myself and my drumming buddy got seats... on his way back in before the gig, he instructed us to wait by the stage door, which we did, and as they were going in, with the usual horde of fans, he did an "excuse me, excuse me", took the pair of us aside, and handed me an envelope with 2 reasonable seats, and made the comment, "They'll probably think I'm making a drugs deal, enjoy the show lads, and thanks again..."), Monsters of Rock (distant pics, with the Slade ones, but yet to locate), St Albans (lots of pics), even Dusseldorf (more pics), and so it goes... still got my autographed "Snakebite" white ep (2 I think), and a single from the first solo LP (purple label iirc, somewhere lost in the loft) I think... even used to see Mick Moody play on Sunday lunchtimes with a pick-up band at the Red Lion, in Brentford (called Fast-Buck, singer Ed Hamilton wrote a little ditty called "Night Games" which was a hit for some band or other, name escapes me  ;) only other noteworthy thing with them was Scott Gorham played with them pre T'in Lizzy). stopped seeing them during my attempts to go pro, post '81, which obviously did not work out...

I've been rambling again... just done a 500 mile drive... (yawn...)
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 13, 2009, 04:48:29 AM
David Coverdale had big shoes to fill from the beginning of his career & it wasn't Plant as much as Ian Gillan who he needed to measure up to.
Personally, I prefer the Mach II Deep Purple!!
David did well but like Blackmore I am not particularly fond of the direction the band took with Coverdale & Hughes. It's ok & there are some magical moments but in my humble opinion Highway Star, Space Truckin', Perfect Strangers & Woman From Tokyo were the Ultimate Purple Songs!!! ...& this one charted at #2 in the UK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIqKvfS3Xtk

Blackmore's Night have been known to boogie on that riff!

So anyway David got his shrieking style original from Gillan.
Listen to that WS line "Don't run for cover----- I'm gonna show you what I've learned"
That is pure Gillan.
You can't blame DC for stretching the limits of his talent to increase his vocal range.
That's what singers do! That's how they're evaluated, innit it?
"So & so's got a 7 octave range"
Right?
Of course he had to pull out all of the stops when working with Page.
He'd done the vocal tracks for CP but by the time Page was done with his parts the vocals sounded weak. So DC rose to the challenge & pushed his voice to the limits which I think is fantastic!
As I said before early on in this thread, he ACES Plant with his upper register wailing & sings like a real man which Plant can only dream of doing.
Much as I love Zep & Robert's songwriting skills--Yes, he does stir emotions & stimulate the ol' thot processes as well as providing early Rockers with the most popular songs to have sex to--& appreciate the fact that the most popular (Pop) songs are ones that girls can sing along to, Plant's voice from time to time grates on my nerves & I've had to "fast" from Zep, sometimes for years.
I've never grown tired of Coverdale's great singing tho & when Plant was going in some odd directions in the 80s with his solo career David was refreshingly as Blues based as Zep & even more testosterone charged!!!
We Wish You Well, Mr. C! Your legacy is amazing!!!
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2009, 06:36:32 AM
Ok, class, ready for a little Purploid trivia excursion again?!   :mrgreen:

While DC was with the Purps he never sounded like Gillan (Mk III DP only ever played three Mk II songs: Smoke, Highway Star and Space Trucking, Mk IV dusted off Lazy live with Bolin giving the song a totally different feel). Or was asked to. He never did attempt Child in Time or the screechy call and response of vocs and guitar in the MiJ version of Strange Kind of Woman, Purple wanted him to have his own identity (in fact Jon Lord has repeatedly lamented how Coverdale pushed up his register over the years for no good reason other than perhaps athletic relish).

By 1972, Blackmore had grown tired of Gillan's increasingly off-the-wall vocal melodies on new material. The two fell out not only over "Painted Horse", which Blackmore refused to have even released from the "Who do we think we are" sessions, but Blackmore also disliked Gillan's psychedelic singing on "Our Lady"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znumd9aXa_s&feature=related


and on "Place in Line" which sounded like Gillan was taking the piss on Blackmore's new-found love for more gravelly sounding singers:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GmPDPUFPho


Blackmore wanted someone with more of a blues feel. That is why he jammed with Lynott and that is why Paul Rodgers was approached as his first choice (Blackers had been singing the praises on Free in the press for a while and his comments that he rated Rodgers "the best British rock singer" had riled Gillan no doubt). But Rodgers bowed out of joining Deep Purple when the Purple management divulged the nascent talks with him to the press - enter Bad Company ... Listen here at 3.24 for how DP might have sounded with Herr Rodgers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5chZyRnK8dU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ethehighwaystar%2Ecom%2Fnews%2F2009%2F07%2F30%2Frock%2Daid%2Darmenia%2D20%2Dyears%2Dafter%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=207



Subsequently there were contacts to Jess Rhoden and Snips, the singer from Sharks which came to nothing. Another singer approached was Lucifer's Friend singer John Lawton (a man with a decidedly black and bluesy voice, later with Uriah Heep) who does not realize that Purple are looking to replace Gillan and turns down the offer "to jam" with them in favor of a paid gig with German MoR outfit Les Humphries Singers (watch for 0.57 in the following clip, I guess he could have actually matched Gillan's range).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5MHHGhyBA


He doesn't get a second invite from the Purps, silly boy! But Uriah Heep will remember him in the future (after Coverdale declines to join them after the Purple split in 76) ... and don't mind his balding pate and overt use of eye shadow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spd9CbidW0M

In the meantime, the remaining members moan about having to wade through tapes of people trying to sound like Gillan. Glenn Hughes is then pulled on board who Blackmore liked for his bass playing and singing with Trapeze (plus his looks which were remotely like Gillan's, which was important to the management), but the Purple management makes it clear that Purple would also need a non-instrument playing lead singer as a frontman. Moreover, Blackmore rates Hughes' range, but wants someone "with a more manly voice" plus is interested in having harmony vocals within Purple (Gillan always sang alone live and harmonized comparatively little in the studio, preferring to simply doubletrack his voice without harmony most of the time), something he admired with Uriah Heep (nicknamed "You're all sheep" by Deep Purple Mk II members, who are to this day adamant that Heep stole ideas and sound from them back in the day when the two bands had adjacent rehearsal rooms).

And then Ian Paice listens to a bad audition tape from the "unknown boutique salesman from Redcar", gets goose bumps, calls Lord who likes what he hears too, Coverdale is invited, put on slimming pills (amphetamine), gets his cross-sight operated and the rest is history.  He's never ever pushed by Blackmore to sing any higher than his natural range (and Blackmore later on moves to Dio who is not a hi-note-hitter either).

It's only when Coverdale decided for his own ego that with Whitesnake he would have to eclipse DP's US success that he embarked on that silly quest to sing higher and higher. That and the ill-fated vocal chord and septum operation he had. In the liner notes to the new remaster of Slip of the Tongue he even admits himself that he got carried away and pushed the keys on that particular recording higher and higher (and had subsequently a hard time singing them live), I guess Steve Vai's widdlings were an unholy influence.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Basvarken on August 13, 2009, 07:08:50 AM
Interesting read Uwe!

Did you know that Phil Lynott (and the rest of Thin Lizzy) recorded an entire album of Deep Purple songs under the name Funky Junction in 1973?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2009, 07:23:00 AM
Sure, even got the CD of it! Let's put it this way: He could not emulate Gillan which is why they brought in another (horrible) singer for most of those tracks. A curio both for Thin Lizzy and DP fans. The Baby Face demos he recorded with Blackmore and Paice (they wanted to form a power trio in the Experience mode) are still unreleased though. Blackmore liked Lynott's voice, but Paice found Lynott's bass playing still very raw back then.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: nofi on August 13, 2009, 07:44:39 AM
once again a glimpse of the slimey underpinnings of the music biz. it's like a bunch of teenage girls arguing about who likes who more, make up, hair do and diet concerns. plus surgery. :o i love reading this stuff. ;D
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: gearHed289 on August 13, 2009, 11:42:41 AM
Without any vocal histrionics which I don't go for.

Didn't you just mention...
... that I like Justin Hawkins (falsetto squeals and all!)?
   ??? :P ;D
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2009, 12:26:15 PM
You caught me! Let's put it that way: Hawkins is fun and tongue in cheek, his voice is hilarious and I find it entertaining. It doesn't move me though. Coverdale, when he still had his act together, could have moved me even if he had sung the telephone book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEWiJVv8O9E&feature=PlayList&p=F1007D902F838447&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=56

Listen to how the emotion almost cracks his voice at 2.40. Know what I mean now? When I write harsh stuff on him now, it really is the estranged lover in me.  :-\
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 13, 2009, 01:06:17 PM
He turned into Joe Cocker at 2:40 haha

Cool history lesson. Uwe~ Do ya have Into The Light & Restless Heart??
Great solo albums!!  ;D

He'll be back for more soon.....
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 13, 2009, 01:08:02 PM
I have everything Coverdale has ever sung on and everything he ever will. I might be disappointed, but I'm still faithful!
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on August 14, 2009, 12:11:17 PM
I have everything Coverdale has ever sung on and everything he ever will. I might be disappointed, but I'm still faithful!

I'm sure you have The Butterfly Ball, right?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: uwe on August 14, 2009, 06:15:57 PM
About four times in regular CD versions plus a bootleg of the live performance where Gillan sang Dio's parts (Dio being busy forming Rainbow with Blackers then). "Behind the smile" is a great performance of Coverdale though my favorites are "Old Blind Mole", the Heepish "Sir Maximus Mouse" sung by Eddie Hardin,the closing track with the childrens quire, the Lawton-sung "Little Chalk Blue" and of course "Love is all". Ok, ok, I pretty much love the whole album!!! 
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Rhythm N. Bliss on August 14, 2009, 08:58:36 PM
For those who haven't seen the young bearded Coverdale sing Behind The Smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VOMiK1fI9U

Excellent, eh?
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: Highlander on August 15, 2009, 01:33:54 AM
Uwe... I remember seeing IG's Gold Disc for "Jesus Christ  - Superstar" (took me totally by surprise!) on the wall at Kingsway Recorders, back in the day... funny to think of Lloyd-Webber trying to persuade him to sing the lead in the stage show...
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on August 15, 2009, 06:58:26 AM
For those who haven't seen the young bearded Coverdale sing Behind The Smile:
Excellent, eh?

Yeah, except for the pointless dancing sequences.
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: lowend1 on August 15, 2009, 07:33:06 AM
Uwe... I remember seeing IG's Gold Disc for "Jesus Christ  - Superstar" (took me totally by surprise!) on the wall at Kingsway Recorders, back in the day... funny to think of Lloyd-Webber trying to persuade him to sing the lead in the stage show...

And they wound up with Jeff Fenholt on Broadway - great vocalist, but apparently a bit of a basket case. Never cared much for Ted Neely in the movie version. There was a version of JCC done a few years back with Steve Balsamo in the role of Jesus Christ - probably the best rendition aside from Gillan. 
Title: Re: The Coverdale controversy continues...
Post by: bobyoung on August 15, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
Back around 1990 I went to a benefit show at The Stone Pony - it was supposed to be Paul Stanley along with a NY cult band called The Good Rats and Saraya. It wound up being the whole of Kiss, along with JLTurner, a couple of guys from The Rascals, and TM Stevens' band. Between Gene and the rest, there was alot of "rock helmets" on stage that evening. I dubbed the show Night of 1000 Rugs"

Rock helmets! haha!

I think Coverdale's singing the lower parts and Axle Rose is screaming the higher parts. ;D
I didn't really watch the whole thing but I don't see any evidence of tapes, echo and tape delay, he's going to kill his voice though if it hasn't been already.

That guitar player in the first video is great if you like that sort of thing.