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https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO2C6313/SG-Bass/Cherry
$1.6K
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Vile thieving hobbitses!
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/lk5fBgCmIdJ4Y/200.gif)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2342.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2342.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
I just realized - that's a Denver Broncos orange and blue bass!
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Yes, one of the most tasteful fin combos ever. I had professional advice.
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At least this one is reasonably priced.
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I like this one. And yes, decent price.
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Yes, one of the most tasteful fin combos ever. I had professional advice.
I do what I can :gay:
(https://i.imgur.com/cJFXvqn.jpg)
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I do what I can :gay:
I never knew you were a Broncos fan. Or is it Boise State? Auburn? Florida? That almost exhausts the list. :P
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I never knew you were a Broncos fan. Or is it Boise State? Auburn? Florida? That almost exhausts the list. :P
Broncos got Russell Wilson - Seattle's F'd for the next decade or more.
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Broncos got Russell Wilson - Seattle's F'd for the next decade or more.
There's one solution: trade for Minshew. He will bring that team back to life!!
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(https://i.imgur.com/cJFXvqn.jpg)
You should try my EB-0L slot-head some day. Amazing bass. It has an 80s OBL single coil pickup under the cover that unleashed the bass's hidden character, previously suffocated by the mudbucker, in all its glory. I have a '70 EB3 bridge position mini humbucker and can transform this bass into an EB-3L very easily (only missing fretboard binding), but there's no need. It's a tone monster as is, very Rickenbacker-ish in character, in the best possible way, but with a deeper low end.
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/eb-0l-jpeg.4600455/)
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/eb-0l-obl-jpg.4600457/)
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What is going on with your uptight?
Is that a saw?
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What is going on with your uptight?
Is that a saw?
What, the bow quiver?
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Ha! You know when you see something incorrectly and no matter how many other times you look it's still wrong :)
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Bow quiver? Ilan shoots basses like Ted Nugent does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IRImB2I3gM
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You should try my EB-0L slot-head some day. Amazing bass. It has an 80s OBL single coil pickup under the cover that unleashed the bass's hidden character, previously suffocated by the mudbucker, in all its glory. I have a '70 EB3 bridge position mini humbucker and can transform this bass into an EB-3L very easily (only missing fretboard binding), but there's no need. It's a tone monster as is, very Rickenbacker-ish in character, in the best possible way, but with a deeper low end.
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/eb-0l-obl-jpg.4600457/)
I have something similar on my Epi Newport - there is a Seymour Duncan Tele Bass replacement single coil lurking underneath the cover. For years I wondered why that mudbucker sounded like no other mudbucker. :mrgreen: Then one day, curiosity won and I unscrewed the cover and saw what one of the pre-owners had left for me ... :mrgreen:
I've kept it as is. I have mudbuckers galore I could stick in there, but I've grown fond of the sound of my Newport with the "Seymour Duncan mockbucker".
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I do what I can :gay:
(https://i.imgur.com/cJFXvqn.jpg)
The Führerbunker! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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There's like 20Thunderbirds in that pic...........I wet myself! Don't tell Uwe!
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Well, I kinda like the shape ...
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Triple mud! $1.6K
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO29P798/SG-Bass/Cherry
EDIT: gone within seconds
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mud, mudder, muddest ...
The mudder of all SG-Basses!
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Considering those are some kind of TB+ variant, there's probably less mud then you might expect.
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I would prefer one good mud to three demi-muds.
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Reminds me a bit of a mock up I made for modifying one of those SG-Zs from the 90s...
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/sgz-mod-jpg.4641091/?temp_hash=e79abf0b8a026ede46adb6345dcfcde3)
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Not mudbuckers.
The specs for this one says the neck and middle pickups are SG Rhythm Bass and the bridge is SG Lead Bass. But "the modifications consist of two bonus SG Rhythm Bass pickups." No, a regular SG Bass already has one SG Rhythm Bass pickup at the neck. Trust Gibson to get its own specs wrong.
IIRC up until a few years ago, these were called TB-Plus anyway. Same construction as in a Thunderbird (blades w/ceramic magnets beneath) but the coils were spread much further apart. I don't think that has changed, but I could be wrong.
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Where can I get this pickup? A TB+ under a Sidewinder cover
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Where can I get this pickup? A TB+ under a Sidewinder cover
They were never offered for sale separately. A pic of the innards has been posted here more than once, but not recently. Again, I'm not sure that the current mudbucker-sized neck pickup is a new design or the TB+ with a new name.
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Jim Lea way ahead of the pack. ;)https://youtu.be/ZRqj_EB4HME
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Where can I get this pickup? A TB+ under a Sidewinder cover
They do crop up on ebay as people fiddle with their newly acquired SG basses and discard the original pups. That's how I got a set.
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They do crop up on ebay as people fiddle with their newly acquired SG basses and discard the original pups. That's how I got a set.
What did you put them in?
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I'm a hoarder and prepper. The end is nigh. I have replacement pups of pretty much everything Gibson ever did.
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I'm a hoarder and prepper. The end is nigh. I have replacement pups of pretty much everything Gibson ever did.
I only have a ~1970 EB3 bridge mini humbucker and a 5-ply guard, if I ever want to convert my EB-0L to a 3L.
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Email me your postal address, Ilan, you can have mine (if I can find it!). It's been collecting dust in the parts bin for too long.
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No basses today in the Mod Collection restock.
A one-off LP bass done like this could be nice:
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO2F1845/Les-Paul-Classic/Half-n-Half
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMO2F1845/Half%20n'%20Half/RAM016859_front1x2.png)
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That - for lack of a better word - is gruesome. Worst idea since ...
(https://bowtielawyer.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/download.jpg)
They always have these weird ideas in the Middle East. 8)
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Good lord, what an eyesore.
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Colorblind isn't enough, you need to be completely eyeless to tolerate this.
(https://www.br.de/br-fernsehen/sendungen/alpen-donau-adria/slowenien_grottenolm-100~_v-img__16__9__xl_-d31c35f8186ebeb80b0cd843a7c267a0e0c81647.jpg?version=78a86)
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No basses today in the Mod Collection restock.
A one-off LP bass done like this could be nice:
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO2F1845/Les-Paul-Classic/Half-n-Half
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMO2F1845/Half%20n'%20Half/RAM016859_front1x2.png)
At the Fender Custom Shop Event at the NAMM some years ago, Fender showed a Strat which was half new and half heavy relic.
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For obvious reasons, Fender should not be the gold standard here! :mrgreen:
And if you want to do something like that, do it right - like an American quilt:
(https://img.kytary.com/eshop_de/stredni_v4x/na/637643005797230000/4554bac4/64891077/sandberg-california-vm-5-patchwork.jpg)
Sandberg initially presented that bass ("California Patchwork") only as a demo (to visualize their design variations in an eye-catching way) on a fair, but there was an immediate commercial demand for it. The way this is done, I actually like it. A harlequin bass, why not, you probably wouldn't play it in a death metal band. The additional work that by necessity goes into a composite Frankenstein bass like this, actually makes it quite expensive: EUR 3.000.
And thank God it's not relic'ed. I've never understood why people want to make new stuff that has not been used look old or why they have issues with an instrument no longer shiny and new, but showing natural signs of wear and tear. Either is fine by me (work- and playability is key), but the creation of an illusion that is neither ... :puke:
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And thank God it's not relic'ed. I've never understood why people want to make new stuff that has not been used look old or why they have issues with an instrument no longer shiny and new, but showing natural signs of wear and tear. Either is fine by me (work- and playability is key), but the creation of an illusion that is neither ... :puke:
Weathering (relic'ed) is for model trains, not bass guitars!
(https://i.imgur.com/xrAoYbW.jpg)
Unless of course, if it's the real deal.
(https://i.imgur.com/pKeJvxc.jpg)
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Does this link open? It's the half relic:
https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/51174279_2383710118366457_2812245307251752960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=cdbe9c&_nc_ohc=QCU5h9NT7JIAX9UJ5Iv&_nc_oc=AQkmKJNthYyv7H3trJxpWFCz2d9GcgTYkHSOv4yevg8I7nTrRBlO_A1vSq9hRaoFl0h6FqFI6x6Z6QDoA9KOK6oq&_nc_ht=scontent-amt2-1.xx&oh=00_AT_K3L8Uc_5sVTsNt4EytMa-PDExoSPRhJ8TYz38XgiFvg&oe=62747D94
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Yes, it opened. Bad, but not as bad as the Mod Shop Les Paul.
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Yes, it opened. Bad, but not as bad as the Mod Shop Les Paul.
It would take a lot to do that.
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Well, if I were a guitarist I'd want both :)
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That'a meshuggah, Ilan! Where did your otherwise immaculate taste go?
Those contraptions are butt-ugly.
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Wait until you learn about my recent interest - 80s hair metal basses. Like this one
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--9Fg_HCct--/a_exif,c_limit,e_unsharp_mask:80,f_auto,fl_progressive,g_south,h_620,q_90,w_620/v1464688588/sjtcynubcu4q8vefw0nx.jpg)
Or - keeping up with the half-and-haft theme you all seem to dislike - this one
(https://www.talkbass.com/attachments/img_4804-jpg.3382164/)
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Moment mal, ich habe no issues with hair metal shapes whatsoever! I'm a longstanding fan of Explorers, Fying Vs, Icemans, Burns Flytes, Kramer Flying Brooms, Gene Simmons Axes, Silly Purple Clown Basses, what have you - those mock Explorers are both nice in fact.
Also no issues with the yin-yang b/w color scheme, HOLY SCHENKER !!!, countrymen of mine invented it! Here I am, rock you like a yin & yang!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaGCu1xZ_6o
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NeatSomberDore.webp)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/a41a8bec39a5a9efbbd8f37ff892bc97/ef629597734a4b6b-40/s500x750/8a90aee8c9ee41341245d23f71cce98e70f960d3.gifv)
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImpossibleHotAfricanrockpython-max-1mb.gif)
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/35fa452b88046398b06bcca5e7f0780c/tumblr_o2jl6jHr1h1v0dxoro1_r1_400.gif)W
And since we're deutsch, machen wir es richtig & konsequent! Wot eeze wrong wiff anozzer sin, ja?
(https://johnlawgigs.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/20160120-michael-schenker6.jpg)
Like many things German, dig a little deeper and some of the historical connotations of that particular color scheme are unfortunate.
(https://image.stern.de/30824634/t/I3/v1/w1440/r1.7778/-/v--7-.jpg)
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https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOALK72/Non-Reverse-Thunderbird-Bass/Camden-Grape-Satin
NR Camden Grape Satin, 4 days now, no takers.
It seems that Gibson have not made up their mind about the controls/jack layout on this model.
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOALK72/Camden%20Grape%20Satin/RAM016969_front1x2.png)
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$2K for a satin finish? No wonder there are no takers yet.
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$2K for a satin finish? No wonder there are no takers yet.
But it's a one-off. That has to be worth something.
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In my opinion this is the first ModShop creation that looks really good. No hodge-podge pickguard and a lovely finish. The white speed knobs are a nice touch. Controls lay-out is the only correct one.
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In my opinion this is the first ModShop creation that looks really good. No hodge podge pickguard and a lovely finish. The white soeeds knobs are a nice touch. Controls lay-outis the only correct one.
Yeah but it's called a Grape!
When the finish begins to check will it be known as Raisin?
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In my opinion this is the first ModShop creation that looks really good.
Well, <5 hours to the weekly restock.
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Those oversize knobs look silly and have no place on a replica of a 60ies Bird.
Now I'm traditional for once.
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Those oversize knobs look silly and have no place on a replica of a 60ies Bird.
Now I'm traditional for once.
Oversized knob........ :gay:
My mind wandered there for a moment :-*
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With you, it actually doesn't wander at all, it always stays put in one place!
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Well, <5 hours to the weekly restock.
No basses this week.
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Those oversize knobs look silly and have no place on a replica of a 60ies Bird.
Now I'm traditional for once.
They’re not oversized. They are regular size speed knobs.
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Ugly still.
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Well it's gone now, I dig it. I've always wanted a plum crazy Thunderbird.
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Ugly still.
Look who's talking :mrgreen:
The guy who did this to a perfectly fine SG-Z
(https://www.enkoo.nl/uploads/1/3/3/7/13376708/sg-z-body_orig.jpg)
😂
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That, you Holzschuh-wearing, windmill-adoring German bloodling wasn't me but the preowner!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I did leave it though, the colors just matched so nicely. :-[ :-X And it wasn't a TBird, but a modern day SG-Z.
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And it wasn't a TBird, but a modern day SG-Z.
That's what everybody who modded/molested a Fender or Gibson in the 70s said.
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That's what everybody who modded/molested a Fender or Gibson in the 70s said.
:rimshot:
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How unpleasant you all are.
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My '76 Bird had the speeds, but I never liked them. So I got some mirror capped ones.
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No basses this week.
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No love for the pickguardless SG Bass? Two are still unsold. $1.5K
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOMEM700/Ebony/RAM017610-1.png)
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If I wasn't a builder, those would be tempting.
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How unpleasant you all are.
Says the dude with a Messerschmittburst SG bass.
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No love for the pickguardless SG Bass? Two are still unsold. $1.5K
It has that unnecessary bridge pickup, and it needs a real mudbucker. At least it has a Babicz bridge.
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Where can I get this pickup? A TB+ under a Sidewinder cover
I have one, but am in the middle of a trans-Atalantic move. If you don't need it *that* fast, all is good...just LMK
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I have one, but am in the middle of a trans-Atalantic move. If you don't need it *that* fast, all is good...just LMK
No rush. I'd love to buy it if you decide to sell.
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No rush. I'd love to buy it if you decide to sell.
As it stands right now, I have no use for it so I'll gladly pass it to someone who needs it.
Please allow me a few weeks, and I'll PM you once I'm ready to send it over to you.
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No new basses in this week's restock. The two black SG Basses are still there.
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Up for grabs this week: double pseudo-mud SG bass w/Babicz (https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMOH4I611/SG-Standard-Bass/Ebony), $1,499
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMOH4I611/Ebony/RAM017945-1.png)
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I like it!
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That's a $300 discount compared to standard SG basses.
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Plus you get the second (mock)mudbucker. And a Babicz bridge.
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That's a $300 discount compared to standard SG basses.
Several (although not all) places have now increased the price of a new SG Standard bass to $1,799.00. I just recently noticed this.
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Frankly, for that price it is kind of restricted in usage. There are lots of musical environments where a short scale meets its natural limits.
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I like that a lot.
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Mock mudbucker?
(https://i.imgur.com/Vk4smBv.jpg)
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Mock mudbucker?
You can replace the pickups with two real muds. This will also restore the balance in the universe that was disturbed by my de-mudified EB-0L ;)
I do have a spare Seth Lover-designed Tele Bass MkII "Wide Range Humbucker", is it a viable candidate for a bridge pickup on a Gibson? I mean, with the Fender logo embossed on the cover?
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That could have faired well in my “Land of Misfit Toys”, after replacing the pickups with real Mudbuckers………
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"I do have a spare Seth Lover-designed Tele Bass MkII "Wide Range Humbucker", is it a viable candidate for a bridge pickup on a Gibson? I mean, with the Fender logo embossed on the cover?"
I see the creation of a pawn shop monstrosity happening before my eyes. :rolleyes:
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/tze1mGedykiuk/giphy.gif)
And I thought you were a real Mensch, Ilan, kind to anyone, including Gibson basses ...
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I recently built this with two Artec Mudbuckers. Works really well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLwzZR_rxYQ
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Frankly, for that price it is kind of restricted in usage. There are lots of musical environments where a short scale meets its natural limits.
As for the price, it may even be worse than it looks, too, depending on where you live. In some states something listing for that price will have a sales tax of roughly $150+. I'm glad I bought most of my basses before 2018 when the Supreme Court gave states the right to have an online sales tax. You still may somehow be able to find a great deal like I did on my SG bass in 2020. But I don't think anyone can get out of a sales tax, unfortunately.
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"I do have a spare Seth Lover-designed Tele Bass MkII "Wide Range Humbucker", is it a viable candidate for a bridge pickup on a Gibson? I mean, with the Fender logo embossed on the cover?"
I see the creation of a pawn shop monstrosity happening before my eyes. :rolleyes:
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/tze1mGedykiuk/giphy.gif)
And I thought you were a real Mensch, Ilan, kind to anyone, including Gibson basses ...
Hey, you were the one who suggested routing this lovely vintage bass for middle and bridge pickups...
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But not with Fender pups, Himmel! Those things just aren't kosher, tu comprends? :mrgreen:
Four languages in two sentences. Not bad, and if I say so myself. 8)
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Then what about all those muds on Fenders? Sheehan, Cliff Burton, etc.?
BTW being a life long atheist, Kosher doesn't mean a lot to me ;)
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As for the price, it may even be worse than it looks, too, depending on where you live. In some states something listing for that price will have a sales tax of roughly $150+. I'm glad I bought most of my basses before 2018 when the Supreme Court gave states the right to have an online sales tax. You still may somehow be able to find a great deal like I did on my SG bass in 2020. But I don't think anyone can get out of a sales tax, unfortunately.
The sales tax thing really sucks. Applying it to used items that have changed hands through private sales is total BS. And the new "sales over $600 get reported to the IRS" borders on tyranny (OK, I'm getting dramatic now ;D ) Sales tax where I live is 10%. It's 8% where I work, so I have stuff shipped there (I usually always did that anyway).
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The sales tax thing really sucks. Applying it to used items that have changed hands through private sales is total BS. And the new "sales over $600 get reported to the IRS" borders on tyranny (OK, I'm getting dramatic now ;D ) Sales tax where I live is 10%. It's 8% where I work, so I have stuff shipped there (I usually always did that anyway).
Several years ago, when I was ordering something from Musician's Friend, the guy told me the biggest complaints he received were from people objecting to the sales tax. He said it went on all day, every day. Probably now people hate it just as much, but are now getting more used to it. I remember at first it really was very annoying, though.
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The sales tax thing really sucks. Applying it to used items that have changed hands through private sales is total BS. And the new "sales over $600 get reported to the IRS" borders on tyranny (OK, I'm getting dramatic now ;D ) Sales tax where I live is 10%. It's 8% where I work, so I have stuff shipped there (I usually always did that anyway).
I mean, I'm fine paying my taxes, I just want it going to infrastructure, but 100% agree, used items should not be taxed. They got taxed the first time, screw off. I at least get by with a state that doesn't do income tax, to hell with paying income tax to the state AND national gov.
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The Artecs are real mudbuckers in every way except that they're not manufactured by Gibson or a subsidiary.
Re the sales tax, every state has different thresholds for out of state businesses to have to collect sales tax. For example, in Minnesota, if an out of state seller has shipped fewer than 200 shipments or fewer than $100,000 in retail sales into the state in the previous 12 months, then they don't have to collect sales tax. There are plenty of smaller music stores that sell direct, who meet that definition. So before you deal with the big guys, check your state regulations and see if you can use this to avoid sales tax.
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The Artecs are real mudbuckers in every way except that they're not manufactured by Gibson or a subsidiary.
Re the sales tax, every state has different thresholds for out of state businesses to have to collect sales tax. For example, in Minnesota, if an out of state seller has shipped fewer than 200 shipments or fewer than $100,000 in retail sales into the state in the previous 12 months, then they don't have to collect sales tax. There are plenty of smaller music stores that sell direct, who meet that definition. So before you deal with the big guys, check your state regulations and see if you can use this to avoid sales tax.
I used to have five or six local music stores that I usually preferred going to more than buying anything online. Now they've all gone out of business except one--one of my least favorites. Now at least 90% of the time I end up buying from Sweetwater. It wasn't a choice I deliberately made. Things just turned out that way. Of course in cases like this paying the online sales tax is a given.
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New for this week: another black EB3, this one has a TB bridge pickup. $1,499
What does "open-coil" mean? I thought they all have now TB pickups inside the EB-style casings.
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO1I4385/SG-Standard-Bass/Ebony
(https://static.gibson.com/product-images/Demo/DMO1I4385/Ebony/RAM018040-1.png)
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Man, I like that. I see some potential for a couple of different usable tones there.
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New for this week: another black EB3, this one has a TB bridge pickup. $1,499
What does "open-coil" mean? I thought they all have now TB pickups inside the EB-style casings.
https://www.gibson.com/en-US/Guitar/DMO1I4385/SG-Standard-Bass/Ebony
The regular bridge pickup (now called Lead SG Bass) is the same mini-humbucker that's been used for years. This one appears to be like the NR reissue pickups.
Not sure what's under the cover or what they mean by open coil.
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I was first.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2333.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
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This one is up on Reverb:
https://reverb.com/item/56216960-gibson-sg-standard-bass-purple-sparkle-modified-exclusive-custom-paint
(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--jOOJa70i--/f_auto,t_large/v1654785524/d6bprilm8fxcbmox6ata.jpg)
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The regular bridge pickup (now called Lead SG Bass) is the same mini-humbucker that's been used for years. This one appears to be like the NR reissue pickups.
Not sure what's under the cover or what they mean by open coil.
It means they jimmied the cover off and broke the pickup coil.
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Nice color.
When and why did they change the top bevel and pickguard shape?
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It means they jimmied the cover off and broke the pickup coil.
That would have been my first thought, but even Gibson wouldn't advertise an open circuit as a feature. Or would they? ;D
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Nice color.
When and why did they change the top bevel and pickguard shape?
Gibson has never been very consistent with the shape of the bevels on the horns.
Some EB-3's and EB-0's have pronounced bevels. Other only a shallow one. The SB-basses don't have a bevel at all.
All of the SG (reissue) basses have had the bevels and this shape pickguard since 2005.
I think the new shape is an improvement by the way. The old one looked kinda clumsy near the neck joint
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Agree on the neck joint area but I like the knobs side of the vintage guards better with the right angle tip.
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I think the new shape is an improvement by the way. The old one looked kinda clumsy near the neck joint
Agreed.
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Gibson has never been very consistent with the shape of the bevels on the horns.
Gibson definitely got a bit muddled up when they carved the SG Special that ended up in Tony Iommi's possession. I'm wondering how they adapted their jigs and patterns for left handed instruments, given that they totally overcooked the bevel and had to shave away the pickguard to a blunt tip to accommodate the wide bevel and shorter horn.
'60s SG bevels and transitions are a thing of glory and never really replicated accurately on modern reissues.
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6GWVvvhiaNXxC5tfpvBvdB-970-80.jpg)
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Necks, neck joints and bodies/bevels before '66 is my EB/SG favourite. Glad I stocked up on them before prices went up too much. I have played a couple of new ones, but they are so different in feel/sound that it's hard to compare them. Maybe weight is the first thing that grabs you, but there are so many body details that differ too. Maybe it's the nut width that is most important. When I bought GOT's SB300 a few years back, I really liked that it was different - but it's hard to imagine it was built by the same company that built the
mud mid 60's EB basses. It's from another planet!