The Last Bass Outpost
Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Muzikman7 on May 27, 2010, 05:52:09 PM
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http://www.bananasmusic.com/productdetail.asp/PID_17110
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Uwe should be along shortly... :mrgreen:
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crikey.looks like a long scale to me.i wonder what construction the pickup is.
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wow that is gorgeous! :o
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Nice!
Anyone guess who the famous owner is? I didn't recognize the drums.
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crikey.looks like a long scale to me.i wonder what construction the pickup is.
The pickup is a Dimarzio Model One, the drums ? Motley Crue. Opps right on one count anyhow :-[
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Almost looks like Peart's kit from Rush...
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I think it's Rush's logo on the drums. Doesn't seem like a Geddy bass tho.
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a pic of the drums from Rush:
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/cathousemouse/rushdrums.jpg)
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I like the bass. But it needs a mudbucker:)
It reminds me a bit of the Malcolm Young Gretsch:
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/1c2c17c2150a129fa356670736c84182.jpg)
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Reminds me of a Washburn I used to have ....
(http://www.deayton.com/guitars/washburn.jpg)
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It ought to remind you of a doublecut Junior body, since that's exactly what it is.
My favorite Gibson shape. Definitely not Uwe's favorite Gibson shape.
Is that a Dimarzio Model One?
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I reviewed this cheap Hamer a couple of weeks ago. Passive, cheap bass but I like it. The colour looks good in real life. Of course the first Hamers were doublecut copies.
(http://www.m-central.co.za/Products/images/Sunburst-Bass-(SFB).jpg)
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Nice. Sure looks like a DiMarzio Model One. Another one for Ze Köllekschön?
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That's sheer beauty! Such a good-looking bass, that Gibson one. Must agree with David, that on - and the reversed T-bird - are the nicest basses to be found. So I might as well wonder: Does anyone here have a natural sized sketch for the pickguard, -59, -60 Eb 0?
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Hand made and hand wound on Staten Island.
With a little work you could rip that top off and laminate a piece of mahogany on, plug up that cyclops 3rd hole and put a proper bridge on - I'm liking the Hipshot Evertilt replacement, get a plastic lid mudbucker, a set of banjo pegs, and a 59 EB0 pickguard. That would straighten out that thing.
But I don't think that is a long scale. From the bridge and neck set I am thinking whatever goober paid out his a$$ for this thing had it made 30" scale. If it even is a custom shop bass - show me the back of the headstock. That scale would be in keeping with the original, which you could probably buy for less. As several of us who have or had one have said before, this is a bass that is just ok. It feels off, it plays kind of like an EB0/3 but without the compact comfort. I would love to see what one was like with a full 34" scale to see if it balances out with the small but clunky body. But as it came out, it didn't feel that good.
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Love that body shape. Too bad they didn't stain that boring old maple. :P
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5.000 bucks is pricey, yikes!
I'd have to know more about this to be fully enticed. No chance in hell Geddy could get anything even remotely approaching his sound out of a bass with a pup placement such as this one. Never saw him with anything of the like either. This looks more like something Gene Simmons would have asked for.
I will have to make discreet investigations next week.
But pricey, phew!
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Especially with the Euro circling the drain!
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It makes the baklava all the sweeter.
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looks like early 80's sd curlee.
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looks like early 80's sd curlee.
............................Only better ;) seriously I always wanted a SD
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From the pics and the description there is so far nothing compelling me to believe this is a true Gibson or am I missing something? The pup bothers me big time, I can't believe that Gibson would put something so closely resembling or even being a DiMarzio Model 1 on one of their creations. And everything on this bass is so un-Geddy though Alex Lifeson was always a Gibson player would have certainly received something like that had he asked nicely.
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looks like early 80's sd curlee.
Please! :rolleyes: Come on, guys, it's a doublecut Junior shape. Period. The Curlee, Washburn and Malcolm Young Gretsch were influenced by the Junior, not the other way around.
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From the pics and the description there is so far nothing compelling me to believe this is a true Gibson or am I missing something? The pup bothers me big time, I can't believe that Gibson would put something so closely resembling or even being a DiMarzio Model 1 on one of their creations. And everything on this bass is so un-Geddy though Alex Lifeson was always a Gibson player would have certainly received something like that had he asked nicely.
Remember the "Gibson Custom Shop" bass you bought from California that was made from Gibson parts but not by Gibson? Could this be from the same builder?
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Couldn't it have originally had a mudbucker, only to be replaced (by a misguided soul) with the Dimarzio?
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Please! :rolleyes: Come on, guys, it's a doublecut Junior shape. Period. The Curlee, Washburn and Malcolm Young Gretsch were influenced by the Junior, not the other way around.
Well of course !
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Maybe I'll call Gruhns and ask then what they think they helped me the last time I called about an odd Gibson bass.
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Or one could just ask the seller for documentation. The pics don't even show the Gibson logo, much less any evidence that it's from Gibson's custom shop. That's either deliberate evasion or incompetence. Color me suspicious.
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crikey.looks like a long scale to me.i wonder what construction the pickup is.
I think it's a short scale, it's a small body.
Here's my 1960, again...at age 50 the intonation with the original bridge is xlnt w/ long scale Rotosounds, I like it's simplicity. The bridge pup is a from a '68 Tele bass. Replaced the original banjo tuners with Schallers in 1965.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/BED-SHOT.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/My60EBO.jpg)
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I know about the Doublecut Jr. shape, but I compared it to the Gretsch for wood type and overall looks and to the Hamer just to get this bass into the picture..:)
That EB looks totally natural with that added pick up. Nice!
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I know about the Doublecut Jr. shape, but I compared it to the Gretsch for wood type and overall looks and to the Hamer just to get this bass into the picture..:)
That EB looks totally natural with that added pick up. Nice!
Thanks, I have some 5A Flame veneer on order. It will NOT be making an appearance on mine.
Here's a pic I found on the web of another '60. That bridge, relocated strap button and body edge reradius are all bad ideas. Nice pg though.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/gibsonEB0.jpg)
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Very observant of you, Dave, I was thinking the same thing ...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/IMG00170-20100529-1512.jpg)
That limey luthier who went to California and did the Gibson West Coast Custom Shop for some years. It's very much his handwriting, the kitsch maple top, DiMarzio pups, but retaining the trusted three point, the brownish back color - all ingredients shared by my Explorer. Even the CS logo is as on my Explorer (there are further pics on the linked dealer site at the start of this thread, just not very obviously presented, this is where I took this from):
(http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/17110/OtherImage/photo3.jpg)
The big dif was that the Explorer was a lovingly done fake after the WCCS had ceased to exist for 2.000 bucks and this here is so far a mystery for 5.OOO bucks. With the Explorer I accepted to be very likely getting a well-executed fake, with this I have to be sure at the price.
Geddy Lee with a short scale? You need a lot of Passages to Bangkok to believe that. If the Rush connection is true than I'm more likely to think that Alex Lifeson asked for something like that to try out bass parts for his compositions, guitarists like short scale basses.
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I think it's a short scale, it's a small body.
Here's my 1960, again...at age 50 the intonation with the original bridge is xlnt w/ long scale Rotosounds, I like it's simplicity. The bridge pup is a from a '68 Tele bass. Replaced the original banjo tuners with Schallers in 1965.
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/BED-SHOT.jpg)
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/1960%20EBO/My60EBO.jpg)
That is very tasteful, slanted pup and all! Compliments!!!
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That is very tasteful, slanted pup and all! Compliments!!!
Thanks, I'll tell it to the 26 year old hippie who did it with a chisel, hand drill, sandpaper and a Preval spray bottle. Didn't need much for tools in those days.
BTW, Bananas is a reputable vendor, I do see a Gibson logo on the headstock and the back shot is exactly like mine. So it's possible. Geddy? who knows, different horses for courses. The best example of a '60 EBO I've ever seen is JAE's in Bass Culture, wouldn't think of him as a short scale player. But I would agree, Lifeson more likely if it's authentic. That said $5K is crazy for that,um, thing. Really sweet Explorer!
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(http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/17110/FullImage/17110.jpg)
Very similar top, too... caveat emptor...
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Okay, I didn't see the links to the other photos. Definitely the same luthier, and I'll bet it's also a lovingly done fake like the Explorer you bought. Especially with that same unconvincing custom shop logo. Custom job, yes, just not Gibson-made.
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Please! :rolleyes: Come on, guys, it's a doublecut Junior shape. Period. The Curlee, Washburn and Malcolm Young Gretsch were influenced by the Junior, not the other way around.
Yup. If it looks like anything besides a Gibson, it is hands down Hamer.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/cmatthes/MyB4Mfull.jpg)
The Rush connection seems like total BS. I know Geddy has mentioned being interested in something with the simplicity of one pickup like a Ric 4000 in recent years, but a short scale with neck mounted humbucker seems extremely unlikely. ??? I suppose it could have been for Lifeson.
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I've written an email to Bananas, to Gibson and to Giffin Guitars (the luthier from the West Coast Custom Shop). Let's see what they say.
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Roger Giffin! I had forgotten that he was the luthier in question. Quite a talented builder.
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I guess we'll see if push comes to shove...
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Roger Giffin sent me a kind email:
"Hello Uwe.
That one does look like something I might have done, but to be honest, I can't say for certain that I did build it. I kept no records of the instruments I made back at the Custom Shop, and it's highly unlikely that Gibson would be able to shed any light on it. So I think the best we can do is to say that it may have been one of mine, but I wouldn't want to give any guarantee on that!
All the best.............Roger"
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Well, that mail could give an answer.
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I read his answer as "this might very well have been me, but please don't base a purchase decision on that". Which is fair enough.
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I read the same thing. He seems like a nice guy and it's cool that he's always good about responding to your questions.
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Respect where respect is due, in both directions...
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His response, and what we know about the Explorer he built that you bought, tells me this probably isn't a genuine Gibson even if he built it. Unless the seller has some hard evidence, I wouldn't count on it.
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Yes, that bass has a big question mark looming over it for 5.000 bucks asking price. It might as well be a boutique creation with a Gibson headstock.