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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2011, 05:42:33 AM »
To refreshen everyone's memory:

LPB-1 or Special: initially passive with three knobs, then active with four and a Bartolini TCT active circuit, TB Plus soapbars, all maho, flattop, dot inlays, Schaller roller bridge (on 4 string)

LPB-2 or De Luxe: always active, shortest production run, fretboard trapezooid inlays, actice circuit as above, but with Bartolin guitar humbucker size pups, flattop too, but with maple top, Schaller roller bridge (on 4 string)

LPB-3 or Standard: initially active, then passive, Bart TCT electronics as the others, but TB Plus chrome guitar size humbuckers (not soapbars), sculpted maple top, fretboard trapezoid inlays, very initially three point bridge, later ze Warwick monster
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2011, 06:14:36 AM »
To refreshen everyone's memory:

LPB-1 or Special: initially passive with three knobs, then active with four and a Bartolini TCT active circuit, TB Plus soapbars, all maho, flattop, dot inlays, Schaller roller bridge (on 4 string)

LPB-2 or De Luxe: always active, shortest production run, fretboard trapezooid inlays, actice circuit as above, but with Bartolin guitar humbucker size pups, flattop too, but with maple top, Schaller roller bridge (on 4 string)

LPB-3 or Standard: initially active, then passive, Bart TCT electronics as the others, but TB Plus chrome guitar size humbuckers (not soapbars), sculpted maple top, fretboard trapezoid inlays, very initially three point bridge, later ze Warwick monster

Yikes, they had numbers too?   :o  You guys are amazing, I just don't know much at all about the different Gibson models!  I was familiar with the STandard and Special, but really wasn't aware of the Deluxe and the differences among them all.  Well, in the end, I'll have a Deluxe, probably without an active circuit.
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2011, 07:00:41 AM »
LPB-3 or Standard: initially active, then passive, Bart TCT electronics as the others, but TB Plus chrome guitar size humbuckers (not soapbars), sculpted maple top, fretboard trapezoid inlays, very initially three point bridge, later ze Warwick monster

Here is a video with a three-point bridge passive Standard:



FYI, this video came out in 1995, but the band was signed in 1992, and that was most likely around when the bass was made... probably purchased new with advance money.

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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2011, 02:43:05 PM »
Wow, interesting band!  Not too sure about the song, but the bass sounds good (although he's no virtuoso either).
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2011, 03:20:35 PM »
Their albums are all bass-shy, as is most of the youtube footage you'll find, but if you ever get a chance to see them live, you will hear some of the best bass tone EVER along with a hell of a kickass band. If their albums were half as good as their performances, those guys would be rich. They also close every show with Thin Lizzy's "Cowboy Song."

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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 05:51:38 AM »
Interesting.  So, they are still together and performing?
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 09:32:12 AM »
I've always found it a bit awkward the slab was called Deluxe and the contoured one was called Standard.
The standard sure does look more luxurious to me...


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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 10:11:13 AM »
I've always found it a bit awkward the slab was called Deluxe and the contoured one was called Standard.
The standard sure does look more luxurious to me...



I agree!!!!  Typical Gibson confusion.
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 12:56:53 PM »
I agree!!!!  Typical Gibson confusion.

Well, there you have it. They're just following a long tradition of confusion.

IIRC the original LP Deluxe guitar wasn't a fancier version of the Standard, it just had different pickups, mini humbuckers instead of regular size. This was in the late 60s when the original LP body style was revived.

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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 03:39:56 PM »
You just don't find things like that beastie over here... (envy icon) ;)

What was the outlay, Bill...?
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 03:52:35 PM »
You just don't find things like that beastie over here... (envy icon) ;)

What was the outlay, Bill...?

Yeah, someone sneaked these out of the factory when Gibson typically destroys ones with dents or dings, most probably from mishandling by builders or returns.  I paid $275.  He has some heritage  cherry ones for a bit more (might have fewer dings/dents).
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2011, 06:25:34 PM »
Interesting.  So, they are still together and performing?

Right now they're in Europe opening for the "reunited" Thin Lizzy tour.

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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2011, 08:08:50 PM »
Right now they're in Europe opening for the "reunited" Thin Lizzy tour.

Cool!
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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2011, 06:30:08 AM »
Well, there you have it. They're just following a long tradition of confusion.

IIRC the original LP Deluxe guitar wasn't a fancier version of the Standard, it just had different pickups, mini humbuckers instead of regular size. This was in the late 60s when the original LP body style was revived.

My brother bought a deluxe instead of a custom when they were introduced in '69.  Preferred the sound of the minis which were recanned Fbird pups IIRC.

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Re: One more thing to throw on the pile............
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2011, 09:37:13 AM »
My brother bought a deluxe instead of a custom when they were introduced in '69.  Preferred the sound of the minis which were recanned Fbird pups IIRC.

Yeah, you never know what Gibson might put under a pickup cover!  I think the TB plus pups with 250k tone pots will sound very nice.
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