New DP vid

[ilan]

Rog looking classy as always

[Basvarken]

psssst Ilan... over here !

https://bassoutpost.com/index.php?topic=12619.0

[uwe]

Ilan is the only guy who ever thinks of me here - todah!

[uwe]

It gets better and better!

[TBird1958]

A DP video that acknowledges the existence of Roger Glover is astounding, so it's got that going for it. How much better would it be it the bass was as distinctive as say, what was recorded on "Machine Head". I'm old now, and detest "modern production" of the bass guitar, utterly devoid of character. 

[uwe]

Bob Ezrin generally pushes the bass in his productions, just think of how well you could always hear Dennis Dunaway with the Alice Cooper Group.

Roger doesn't really like that gnarly Ric sound he trademarked on Machine Head, Made In Japan and Who Do We Think We Are (and which I loved) via a 4001 played over a Marshall amp and Marshall 4x12" cabs + Martin bins. While better and more audible than anything he had before (he thought the P Bass on In Rock inaudible and the Mustang on Fireball to lack balls), he still thought it too distorted and noisy. He said he wanted "a clean bass sound like on American records" - and that is what he has basically settled for ever since he joined Rainbow in 1979. Live he prefers a squeaky-clean active sound with his various Vigiers - it's a soundman's dream but not exactly a characterisitic sound. Ezrin has made him sound more vintagy, dark, but still not abrasive, he even got Roger to play Ezrin's studio vintage P Bass with strings unchanged since the 80ies. The same bass and set of strings you hear on Another Brick In The Wall Part 2.

[TBird1958]

Things I miss................

Rickenbacker clank.
EB-3 Woof.

[uwe]

I can't help it, but Roger wants neither! Just a "well-behaved piano string" tone.

[ilan]

What the hell happened at 01:25? Pacie covered him but still, young Rog would never do that.

[uwe]

Roger is generally extremely metronomic (too metronomic in fact, he doesn't yank the beat around like Glenn Hughes often does which is why the rhythm section in Mk III and IV DP always sounded more unruly and less consistent, but often more interesting than in Mk II), but, hey, in the heat of the moment ... He was obviously leaving the beat to follow the audience shoutis in his call and response. (He would never involve the audience in his bass solos back in the 70ies.)

I'll never forget a Warlock (Doro Pesch's first band) gig (as openers for Priest on the Turbo tour) where in an audience participation part the whole (then still very young) band lost the beat entirely due to the audience being so out of time! 😂 They actually had to stop playing and start anew with the panicked drummer counting them in. I found it endearing. It was what Doro has remained to this day: limited talent, but great dedication to the cause = endearing.