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Denis

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Sunn Coliseum 300...
« on: August 03, 2009, 06:48:36 AM »
So I have a Sunn Coliseum 300 on the way. A friend suggested a 2x15 cabinet but I figured you guys would have some great suggestions. Since I seem to be well on the path to a Gibson/Epiphone sickness, what are your suggestions?

And exactly how strong is this Sunn?

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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 07:42:48 AM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again..........Never met a Sunn I didn't like   ;D.
They are pretty strong too. They use large watts ;). Not as large as Hiwatt watts and maybe not as large as Marshall watts, but larger than most others. In general, lot's of juice and lot's of great sound 8)
The Sunn 2 15" cabs are one of the better 2 15" cabs out there, but you could match that head up with a number of things and make it work :)
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 08:28:08 AM »
Thanks, Rick! Are Sunn 2 15"s difficult to come by these days?
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 10:44:52 AM »
Congrats!  You are going to LIKE this amp!!

I have the complete owner's manual posted online:  
http://s83.photobucket.com/albums/j306/apowell1/Electric%20Basses/Amps-Speakers/Coliseum-300%20Manual/

One thing I learned is that each EQ knob has its own pre-amp.  You won't believe the difference in sound from tweaking each knob just a bit.  if you rack them all up just a bit, you push the amp harder and it gets louder - fast!

I have played mine through a single Peavey 15, through a G-K 4x10, and with both connected.  It ALL sounds good.  Note that it's rated 300W @ 2 ohms (one of the few that will go to 2 ohms), 240W @ 4 ohms, and 120W @ 8 ohms.  So if you're playing a venue of any size, you'll probably want to set up cabs for 4 ohms.  I guess if I were running a 2x15 with this, I'd choose speakers and wire it for 2 ohms just to be able to get the full output.

My counsel: whatever kind of speaker cabs you like, just use 'em.  They will sound good through this amp.
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 04:55:33 AM »
Terrific, thanks! Sure looks like I'll need it with all those EQ controls. I appreciate the infor on the W vs ohms as well. Since you've run a single 15 and a 4x10, it begs the question I've been meaning to ask: What would a 4x10 give me compared to a 4x12 or a 2x15? Since the Sunn sounds like it can handle anything I'd ever throw at it, what do the different speaker sizes offer?
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 06:17:06 AM »
Terrific, thanks! Sure looks like I'll need it with all those EQ controls. I appreciate the infor on the W vs ohms as well. Since you've run a single 15 and a 4x10, it begs the question I've been meaning to ask: What would a 4x10 give me compared to a 4x12 or a 2x15? Since the Sunn sounds like it can handle anything I'd ever throw at it, what do the different speaker sizes offer?
Thanks for humoring a relative newbie!

That's hard to answer since I haven't done a side-by-side.

I started years ago with a Fender 2x15 cab and liked the sound, but found it too much trouble to move around and I had one speaker that farted out.

I changed to a Peavey single 15, and that was very much like the 2x15.  That speaker let go but I replaced it with an Eminence which sounds just fine.  However, over time I found that I wanted more note definition than I was getting with the single 15. Was it the (Behringer) head I was using? I don't think so, I think my ear was becoming better educated.  About this time, I also started using more high end instead of playing with the bass knob rolled down on my instrument.  (I should note that although I'm learning to use a pick, I'm still a 100% fingerstyle player, so that affects the note definition.)

Last summer I went into GC during the July 4th sale and tried some 4x10's, having played a few at jams.  After some noodling, I found that the G-K Goldline 4x10 with the gold metal cones sounded more punchy and articulate in terms of note definition, but still had a very solid, consistent low end.  I liked it best of all the 4x10's they had.  The only drawback to the darn thing is that it's 90 pounds, but it's more compact than the 2x15 and has rollers, and is therefore a bit more practical to move.  I've never tried a 4x12, so I just can't comment.  

The 2x15 is an all-time favorite for Sunn players, so I'm not going to vote against it.  I figure that if I really need it, I can always bring the 4x10 and the single 15 to a gig and get the advantages of both.  But since I play in a surf band and we don't get very loud, I'm not sure that it will be necessary unless I just use both for the helluvit.

That's probably no help at all....
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2009, 07:39:47 AM »
Hahaha, actually it does help! This morning I threw a WTB ad on Craigslist to see if anyone has a Sunn 2x15 around here they don't need. Craigslist has been good to me!
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 09:38:12 AM »
IMHO no number of 10s can give you low end extension like 15s can.

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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2009, 11:21:42 AM »
IMHO no number of 10s can give you low end extension like 15s can.

Have you tried, say eight housed in (4) individual, sealed cabinets?  ;D

I love the tone of 15s, and the punch and low end of multiple 10s.

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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 12:01:03 PM »
IMHO no number of 10s can give you low end extension like 15s can.

For that Sunn head, a nice Sunn 2 15" cab would be very sweet.That would be one of my all time favorite sounding rigs ;D.
 I've been a 15" speaker lover for decades and never really jumped on the 10" bandwagon.  The 10"s are great but you tend to need a boatload of them. The SVT cabs and a few others I really love but never wanted to haul around . I will say that some of the  2 12"  / 4 12" cabs with the newer speaker technology (like Eminence neos) are so good and so low you really don't miss the 15" bottom . There are dozens of 2 12" cabs out there right now that are as strong or stronger just about any 2 15" oldies.
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2009, 12:08:41 PM »
Have you tried, say eight housed in (4) individual, sealed cabinets?  ;D

I love the tone of 15s, and the punch and low end of multiple 10s.

The traditional 8x10 SVT certainly doesn't have low end extension. It's designed to cut off the low end at about 50hz.

I like the punch of 10s but I wouldn't be without a 15.

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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2009, 04:37:11 PM »
Showed up today!



A guy on Craigslist has a 6x10 Sunn cabinet and he's sending me pics.
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 05:47:41 PM »
Looks pretty decent!  I do recommend that you read that manual - print a copy - and think about the connections.  There's a lot happening on that back panel - but there's a signal schematic that really helps.

I can't wait till you hook that thing up and twist the EQ knobs.  You'll be amazed......
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 06:22:58 PM »
Thanks! I'm excited about it! Printing the manual as I write this! The diagram on the back is terrific; I'm glad those Sunn engineers had the foresight to print that on the back.

I found a Sunn 6x10 in Baltimore and the guy's supposed to send me pix of it.
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Re: Sunn Coliseum 300...
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2009, 06:35:41 AM »
So, Denis, are you impressed, depressed or repressed???  Inquiring minds......
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