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Title: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on February 26, 2020, 04:11:19 PM
The Gibson Bass IV from 1987, did they all come with black hardware? Anyone know?
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: the mojo hobo on February 26, 2020, 08:05:32 PM
Mine had black hardware. It looked like this one:

https://reverb.com/item/5593050-vintage-1987-gibson-iv-electric-bass-guitar-w-original-case-rare-model
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on February 26, 2020, 09:02:45 PM
I've seen three or four in person over the years, they all had black hardware.

It was the 80s. a decade that certain German bassist/attorneys have never quite left.  :vader:
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2020, 03:22:46 AM
I resent that unqualified statement, I'm an early 70ies kid, if anything, I'm stuck somewhere between 1970 und 1977!!!

(https://www.myheritageimages.com/Z/storage/site86943264/files/00/00/46/000046_70740579050f6ds42jta10.jpg)

The 80ies were way too bright and cheerful for me. I never had a mullet either.

(https://www.myheritageimages.com/D/storage/site86943264/files/00/02/12/000212_69214594694fd00h2we0f3.jpg)

Which is why black hardware made for a welcome change. Bass IV and chrome (shudders), never the twain met.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on February 27, 2020, 09:42:20 AM

Thank you for the responses.  Just bought this one on Reverb, should get it Saturday.  I may have to go full chrome on this one.   ;D


(https://images.reverb.com/image/upload/s--PoskyoF7--/f_auto,t_supersize/v1578758893/aexqbsszr8zjns2c2rex.jpg)
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2020, 10:07:43 AM
Please don't, it's lovely as is. The brown and black go well together, chrome cheapifies everything. I have a Bass V with the same fin.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: patman on February 27, 2020, 10:14:56 AM
I always try to keep an instrument original unless, say a tuner is broken, or doesn't work.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2020, 10:23:09 AM
Ugly ducklings they are, they make fine sounds and are great to play. Function and ultimate output over form and first impressions. Not bad priorities then.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on February 27, 2020, 12:22:42 PM
Please don't, it's lovely as is. The brown and black go well together, chrome cheapifies everything. I have a Bass V with the same fin.

It needs something.  Maybe a competition stripe?
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: amptech on February 27, 2020, 11:46:03 PM
It needs something.  Maybe a competition stripe?

How 'bout a bar bridge?
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: gearHed289 on February 28, 2020, 08:09:36 AM
Nice looking bass. I like those natural finish IVs. I kind of half agree with Uwe - black does look good against the maho. But nothing beats chrome tuners on a black headstock. My cherry sunburst Guild Pilot 5 currently has a black bridge and chrome tuners. Kind of messes with my OCD, but when it was time to replace the old Gotohs, I couldn't get myself to buy black ones.  ;)
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on February 28, 2020, 11:36:08 AM
Nice looking bass. I like those natural finish IVs. I kind of half agree with Uwe - black does look good against the maho. But nothing beats chrome tuners on a black headstock. My cherry sunburst Guild Pilot 5 currently has a black bridge and chrome tuners. Kind of messes with my OCD, but when it was time to replace the old Gotohs, I couldn't get myself to buy black ones.  ;)


That's an idea, but I'll most likely just leave it stock.  While I'm no fan of black hardware, it does look sorta elegant against the natural mahogany, and I got plenty axes with chrome. 

Looks like there's chrome strap buttons on there though.  Gibson, they can never fully commit.  :-\
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on February 28, 2020, 10:03:47 PM
At least you can buy black strap buttons even though they won't be from Gibson.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 03, 2020, 09:25:02 AM
The bass came in on Sunday, no issues to speak of other than the missing knob.  Still has the plastic film on the cavity cover!
It just needed the truss rod tightened up a bit, and then I raised the saddles a hair.  Nice action, but there is a slight rise where the fretboard lays on the body.  Nice & light also, maybe about 7 lb.
The neck is very wide though, which I'm not a big fan of, so I most likely won't use it much or may just pass it on.  Anyway, I think I got a pretty good deal on it, so I'm happy.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyGmDXHW/20200303-100311.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/vmY9YGvn/20200303-100432.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/prF5GrPw/20200303-100455.jpg)
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Ken on March 03, 2020, 01:32:01 PM
One nice fairly subtle addition could be pickup rings.  I added them to my Thunderbird.

Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 04, 2020, 03:06:40 PM

Here's what the pickups look like. To me, they look much closer to real '60s Thunderbird pickups than the ones that came later in the reissues.

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0F2Cn5r/20200304-154900.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/Njm8LZkQ/20200304-154630.jpg)
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2020, 10:53:25 PM
Here's what the pickups look like. To me, they look much closer to real '60s Thunderbird pickups than the ones that came later in the reissues.

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0F2Cn5r/20200304-154900.jpg)  (https://i.postimg.cc/Njm8LZkQ/20200304-154630.jpg)


I'm no expert, but don't the originals have blade magnets? Yours looks like it has a magnet on the bottom plate instead, like the 80s and later pickups.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: amptech on March 04, 2020, 11:00:18 PM
I'm no expert, but don't the originals have blade magnets? Yours looks like it has a magnet on the bottom plate instead, like the 80s and later pickups.

Where do you see a bottom plate magnet, Dave? Looks to me like a 60's bird pup with different sized bobbins.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on March 04, 2020, 11:20:00 PM
Where do you see a bottom plate magnet, Dave? Looks to me like a 60's bird pup with different sized bobbins.

I'm looking at the raised area on the bottom plate. Looks like a thin magnet attached to the plate. One way or the other, it's easy to test and see if it's magnetized, or if the blades are.

As always, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 05, 2020, 03:08:56 PM
These pickups have the blade magnets only.  There's nothing on the bottom plate except some remnants of adhesive.  It's not really even a baseplate, just sort of a very thin tin cover.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on March 05, 2020, 08:13:27 PM
These pickups have the blade magnets only.  There's nothing on the bottom plate except some remnants of adhesive.  It's not really even a baseplate, just sort of a very thin tin cover.

In that case, it must be close to the 60s originals.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: amptech on March 05, 2020, 11:30:11 PM
These pickups have the blade magnets only.  There's nothing on the bottom plate except some remnants of adhesive.  It's not really even a baseplate, just sort of a very thin tin cover.

Just for reference, how wide are those blade magnets? I've been looking for T-bird bobbins and magnets for some time now..
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 06, 2020, 05:37:16 AM
Just for reference, how wide are those blade magnets? I've been looking for T-bird bobbins and magnets for some time now..

Don't know, I didn't measure them, and it's back together now. They look to be about the same size as standard PAF magnets.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Dave W on March 06, 2020, 11:02:30 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if they were standard humbucker size magnets.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: amptech on March 07, 2020, 12:48:01 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if they were standard humbucker size magnets.

Agree, that would make sense.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: uwe on March 08, 2020, 09:36:17 AM
All I can say is that all early TB Plus innards looked like that and that there was no dif between Bass IV/V and '87 onwards TBird mounted ones. Changes came later.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: Denis on March 13, 2020, 07:55:40 AM
I always thought the natural ones looked terrific.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: FrankieTbird on March 13, 2020, 03:31:39 PM
All I can say is that all early TB Plus innards looked like that and that there was no dif between Bass IV/V and '87 onwards TBird mounted ones. Changes came later.

When would you say Gibson started the changes to the pickups in the T-bird reissues?  Any idea why they were changed?  I remember someone posting a pic at one time of one that resembled a P-bass pickup underneath the standard black plastic cover.  Myself, I'm used to seeing the black epoxy-potted pickups in the reissues.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: slinkp on March 13, 2020, 08:40:16 PM
All I can say is that all early TB Plus innards looked like that and that there was no dif between Bass IV/V and '87 onwards TBird mounted ones. Changes came later.

Any idea which flavor would be in the slab bodied passive LPB1 circa 1991?
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: ajkula66 on March 13, 2020, 10:04:35 PM
Somewhat off-topic, but I'm on a lookout for a reasonably priced 5-string version, Bass V.

If anyone is aware of one for sale, feel free to PM me.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Bass IV question
Post by: gearHed289 on March 16, 2020, 08:21:23 AM
Any idea which flavor would be in the slab bodied passive LPB1 circa 1991?

My '94 has the double coil style. Looks like a guitar humbucker sealed in green-ish epoxy inside the big black plastic shell.