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Title: Cool keyboard
Post by: Basvarken on August 23, 2016, 08:24:50 AM
https://youtu.be/nIdHQ7flYsU

These seem to be pretty rare: a Castle Clavinet with a Whammy bar.
Great analogue sounds. Never seen one before.
I stumbled upon this thing when I saw a Lachy Doley video on YT

Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Dave W on August 23, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
That's pretty nifty. It would be interesting to hear it without all the effects.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Basvarken on August 23, 2016, 09:58:24 AM
Like a normal Clavinet that can bend the strings I suppose  ;)

Like this, but with a whammy
https://youtu.be/AMS_EyZG0Io
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: gearHed289 on August 24, 2016, 09:50:20 AM
I've seen those (online only). Pretty cool. I'm not sure analog is even the right word for it, being more mechanical than electronic. I always wished I could throw down the funk on a Clav!
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Alanko on August 24, 2016, 10:23:05 AM
I think George Duke had something similar.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2016, 10:53:53 AM
Yes the guy in the video mentions him.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: chromium on August 24, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
Fun video of that one in action here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87btTfpkxIw
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Basvarken on August 24, 2016, 12:46:11 PM
Yeah saw that one too. It's the same guy grom the vid in the first post right?

Lachy Doley is fun to watch too
https://youtu.be/eAKoTYFZH6Y
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: OldManC on August 24, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Hot damn those sound good! The evolution one is great!
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: chromium on August 24, 2016, 10:21:40 PM
You couldn't give Clavs away in the 80s-90s, but over the past ten years or so there has been renewed interest.  Even the basket cases seem to fetch 500-1K.  I love restoring that kind of stuff, but hard to even find a project for a reasonable price these days.

Someone has even reissued the old Castlebar system.  Quite a bit of work involved to put one in.  A bit like installing a whammy on a guitar with five octaves worth of strings  :o

https://kenrichsounds.com/shop/hohner-clavinets-pianets/clavinet-whammy-bar-system/


Yeah saw that one too. It's the same guy grom the vid in the first post right?

Lachy Doley is fun to watch too
https://youtu.be/eAKoTYFZH6Y

Yeah same guy from your OP.

I hadn't seen that Lachy Doley clip - very cool!
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: mc2NY on August 29, 2016, 04:12:03 PM


Wow!! Ya mean Jan Hammer actually missed a way he could have been MORE annoying with that dopey guitorgan he strapped on ??  😀😀😀😀
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Basvarken on August 31, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
No. Jan Hammer couldn't have been any more annoying than he already was! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: gearHed289 on September 01, 2016, 08:34:27 AM
I've never been annoyed by Jan Hammer. Listened to some Mahavishnu yesterday as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: amptech on September 02, 2016, 12:47:17 AM
I've never been annoyed by Jan Hammer. Listened to some Mahavishnu yesterday as a matter of fact.

Jan is great, both with Mahavishnu but I am fond of other projects too, like the timeless album he did with John Abercrombie and Jack DeJohnette.

But I too must admit that the synth guitar stuff is somewhat unsetteling, some of the JB stuff he did is not quite as tasty as things he did in the past. Jan Hammer is one wine that did not age well, you ask me.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: gearHed289 on September 02, 2016, 07:38:37 AM
JB was my intro to Hammer. I LOVED the dueling solos/pseudo guitar stuff that he did on Wired, but I'm big on synths in general. I don't have any of his solo stuff, but I don't doubt some of it grates on a lot of people.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: uwe on September 27, 2016, 08:47:53 AM
Jan Hammer selflessly helped Tommy Bolin get the well-paid job with DP. At loss what to do after Blackmore's departure and Clem Clempson as a slated replacement not having worked out, David Coverdale and Jon Lord spent a drunken night in Coverdale's then LA home listening to Billy Cobham's Spectrum debut (which featured both Jan and Tommy) again and again. They both mistook Jan's liquid lightning-fast runs with Bolin's usually heavily processed guitar playing. After Bolin had passed the Purple audition with flying colors and the ink had dried, Lord and Coverdale complimented Bolin on the - to my ears indeed impressive to this day - introductory solo runs to Cobham's Quadrant 4. Tommy - who had been credited with Jan's soloing by other people before, it had become a sore point with him ever since the James Gang guys made the same comment - tiredly replied: "That was Jan, not me." Bolin only makes his entry here at 1:11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLMb6RniGrU

Doesn't alter the fact that Bolin was a (very) gifted musician and guitarist - even if he wasn't in Hammer's league as regards speed and knowledge of non-standard scales (years and years of Mahavishnu help!).

And yes, when I heard Spectrum the first few times, I too thought those were Tommy's leads.  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: amptech on September 27, 2016, 11:48:03 PM
Jan's melodic sense, speed and timing is insane.. He is the Allan Holdsworth of keyboard!
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Post by: Highlander on September 28, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
I've always liked the recordings he did with Neil Schon... does it for me...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIcdiNxC5KU
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: gearHed289 on September 29, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
Spotted the whammy Clav is this GH vid. Lachy Doley...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7P3zt11vQQ
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: westen44 on September 30, 2016, 01:16:30 PM
It used to be possible to post the link.  Because I once sent the link to a friend.  Now if you try, you only get "video does not exist."  But if you go to YT, you might (or might not) get something if you try ---Jack Bruce w Jan Hammer Group - 1983 Metropol Berlin.  An unusual set list and an appreciative audience. 
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2016, 05:47:41 AM
Let me tell you, krauts are jazz rock diggers, maybe the layered and engineered structure of the music speaks with our psyche. Cobham, Hammer, Stanley Clarke, George Duke, Weather Report, Jaco, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Al di Meola, Return to Forever, McLaughlin could all make a healthy living on the circuit in the 70ies and 80ies (and many still do, unless they have stopped touring).
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: Dave W on October 04, 2016, 12:25:58 PM
Let me tell you, krauts are jazz rock diggers, maybe the layered and engineered structure of the music speaks with our psyche. Cobham, Hammer, Stanley Clarke, George Duke, Weather Report, Jaco, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Al di Meola, Return to Forever, McLaughlin could all make a healthy living on the circuit in the 70ies and 80ies (and many still do, unless they have stopped touring).

And here I thought krauts were pining for the return of Nena.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Nena has become a national treasure, she is ever-present, no need for a comeback, even our neighbors to the west dig her (avec un SG Bass!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8HHLj-plUk

She's become a bit of a Kraut Chrissie Hynde:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjtBRsDabwY

Not bad for a grandmother of - meanwhile - three.

(https://cdn.okmag.de/f/styles/facebook/public/media/gallery/c73da5fd1daf91ae913912c30998df1f.jpg)

Nena has had her musical ups and downs and she's no Aretha Franklin, but I like a lot of her work.
Title: Re: Cool keyboard
Post by: uwe on October 04, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
Spotted the whammy Clav is this GH vid. Lachy Doley...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7P3zt11vQQ

That does remind me a bit of that other - organ-driven - band he played once with between Trapeze and Black Sabbath. I forgot their name, but they played a version of a Kula Shaker song once. Very nice.

But someone should tell Glenn that he looks and moves far better when he has a bass hanging from his neck rather than in "singer only"-mode.