The Last Bass Outpost
Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Blazer on March 17, 2009, 01:39:03 PM
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Okay you guys, I have gotten a mail by Uwe stating that there have been complaints about some posting I made in reply to several threads.
Thing is that it's difficult to express words when typing them down, you have to be very to the point, you can't use pitch or a questioning tone like you would when during a normal spoken conversation. Like for example during my thread about Paul McCartney's bass lesson where I figured that Macca wasn't using his famous Hofner because the taped on set list was gone. When Ilan corrected me I went "Oh really, I guess that he came back on his word" which was meant as to tell him that I didn't know about that and since Ilan held the instrument in question I knew he was right. As a token of good will I posted two links to two very respectable sites about Macca's 63 Hofner where the most recently happened removal of the set list wasn't mentioned because of both sides not being updated for a while. I then stated that one of the sites said that Macca's bass probably received a re-finish since the color became darker over a short period of time Ilan actually supported the idea after reading the thing himself and recalling that when he held the bass it showed traces of a refinish.
Unfortunately Dave saw my reply to Ilan's post as an attempt to correct him and to school him about things I have no knowledge about since I didn't see and never held the actual bass in my hands when Ilan in fact has, and that I had the nerve to even include links to prove Ilan wrong. I'm sorry Dave if you saw it that way but it was NEVER my intention to come across a wise guy here.
The Dick Dale thing is another one. I was paraphrasing what I learned from reading and seeing, over the years, Dick Dale's disease was mentioned frequently on shows about early Rock N Roll and in interview with people who worked with Dick over the years. The Jimi hendrix dedication of "Third stone from the sun" also was one of those things, I heard that so many times in documentaries about Hendrix even from the mouth of the late great Mitch Mitchell. I just assumed that it must be the truth.
Again, it's so difficult to express one's words by typing them down, you can't adjust your voice a little to sound either sarcastically, or inquisitive. I have learned a lot about Rock and the history of music and I know that I don't know everything. But it was NEVER my intention to come across as someone who's insensitive, a wise guy, a trouble maker or clueless.
So to get this off my chest, Dave, Ilan and everybody I failed to mention, I'm sorry.
Sincerely, Wouter Jaegers
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Wouter, apology accepted on my part. You said in a couple of threads that you didn't intend to come across as rude, and I believed you then. Sometimes you just need to step back, take a deep breath and realize that when you bombard people with too much information, links, videos etc. it comes across as if you think you always know more than everybody else, even if you don't intend it that way.
I hope everyone here understands that you can just relax here. You don't have to be an authority about anything to be a part of this forum.
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For the avoidance of doubt and speaking also on behalf of the great John Fertig: Fusion threads are strictly allowed!!!
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For the avoidance of doubt and speaking also on behalf of the great John Fertig: Fusion threads are strictly allowed!!!
Woo Hoo, Party time!! ;D
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Celebrate good times, come on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8cO5Fg3DmI&feature=related
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For the avoidance of doubt and speaking also on behalf of the great John Fertig: Fusion threads are strictly allowed!!!
I'm finding people in general here, not liking certain things (genre's), so shape your threads around that or if you really want post it in another forum with more "like" minded people. There are more Fusion, techno & metal genre fans at Talkbass.
Not that anyone is not allowed or can't post that stuff here, but you have to realize that your not going to make converts or get a large discussion (number of people) going on something that most here have little interest in.
I'm not suggesting going away, but other forums might be less frustrating trying to express the brilliance others can't seem to grasp.
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Let's not get carried away: Anybody is free to post about the music he likes here. There are no musical off-limits. No, and I would not deny Messrs Miller, Clarke and Wooten membership if they chose to join us. Free your mind.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3MiD_U4CHQ ;D
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There are no musical off-limits
So even this is acceptable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWB2e75BQuw
I feel freeeeeeee!!! :)
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I like Joan Baez. I like her voice too. There, I've said it.
And I also like the Village People though this version is perhaps a bit too daring! But it still is a great uplifting tune, YMSKA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZTevbp24Jk&feature=PlayList&p=66DD5E330B2E5757&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=42
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So even this is acceptable?
I feel freeeeeeee!!! :)
I'll gladly raise you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwYHZBXIggQ
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Apology without penance?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIY7jhg2CrA
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What's wrong with Ella's version? Jack Bruce is on record for saying he wrote the riff on double bass, so it's all snugly full circle.
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Every time I hear the word 'fusion' I reach for the nearest '69 EB-O and plug it into the nearest Ampeg SVT Stack consistin of 4X10's and 2X15's and start meditating!
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THATS IT! you guys, Im gonna proudly post my pseudo Sienfeld-esque ..um....thingy that did last year and make you all cry.........
/me goes off to find it in the archaic archives.
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OK as you will hear I am about as good at slapping as a dingo is at baby care but sometimes you just get those stupid things that keep sticking their heads up when you are noodling and annoy the hell out of you.
I've found that the best thing to do is to record the bastards and suddenly... they are excorsised.
In fact I had forgotten all about this thing until Uwe lifted the fusion/slap ban.(*Edit: Tongue firmly in cheek)
Its not a song its just a very annoying idea. Enjoy. :)
http://www.frog-host.net/music/Slap%20in%20da%20face.mp3 (http://www.frog-host.net/music/Slap%20in%20da%20face.mp3)
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Fusion/slap ban lifted? I dearly hope that no one thought anything of the like ever existed here. There is no forum Gestapo and fusion/slap is not thought-, ear- or playcrime. Dave doesn't mince words ("wanking") about some of his more, errrm, vocal concerns regarding music played with technical prowess (Albert Lee excepted however!), but by all means, if jazz rock means something to you, don't go into hiding here. Yes, you will meet ignorance and ridicule or just plain different tastes, but that shouldn't deter you just like the non-fusionists here need to accept that some people enjoy what they despise.
I despised fusion as a teenager. But then I heard the Ian Gillan Band's Clear Air Turbulence and after being aghast initially, I caught on to it. These days I can sing along to Suzi Quatro blaring from my car stereo and follow that CD by the new Return to Forever Reunion Live album. No, I can't sing along to that and some of it is indeed "wanking" (a tried and trusted male pastime after all, that can brighten up a day at least momentarily) but I meanwhile extract enjoyment from someone wielding his bass in a more athletic way. Stanley Clarke doesn't touch me, but his over the top playing can draw an appreciative smile on my face. I have no inclination (or talent) to compete, but I can listen to a CD of it.
Uwe
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Some people no doubt hate some of the music I love, and vice versa.
One disturbing thing I've noticed about guitar related forums over the years is that some people just don't understand that their own tastes aren't universal. What you think is good isn't objectively good, it's your taste.
I may post videos of what I like or talk about what I like, but it's intended for others who might like it, not to convince anyone else how good it is. If you know you don't like a certain kind of music or a certain artist, I'm not going to convince you by logic or by posting videos. It either touches you or it doesn't.
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I'm cool.
;)
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Sometimes you just need to step back, take a deep breath and realize that when you bombard people with too much information, links, videos etc. it comes across as if you think you always know more than everybody else, even if you don't intend it that way.
oops... ;D
Am I allowed to take my copy of "School days" off eBay, too...?