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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Hörnisse on January 16, 2014, 06:56:13 PM

Title: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: Hörnisse on January 16, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
I've always enjoyed the tone on the first Boston LP.  I understand that Tom played on every track but "Foreplay" and "Let Me Take You Home Tonight" which were played by Fran Sheehan.  I read in a 1977 Guitar Player interview that he used a Gibson bass with a Jazz bass pickup installed.  Never have seen a photo of the bass until a recent search.  The article was from last November.  Sort of looks like the J pickup is slanted a bit, and the bass is a slot head short scale EB-0. (of all things!)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/2qiahie.jpg)

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/tom-scholz-talks-recording-his-signature-gibson-les-paul-and-bostons-new-album-587537/6/1
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: lowend1 on January 16, 2014, 09:21:05 PM
>>Do you have a special bass you like to use?

I have a Gibson EBO with the whole middle part of it milled out where the pickups would normally go. It has a Fender Jazz pickup mounted on it. It's a very unusual bass and nobody else can play it except me. In fact bass players have picked it up and gone ugh, you play this?<<
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: uwe on January 17, 2014, 08:32:59 AM
The new Boston stuff sounds ... like a demo ... terrible drum sound, overall instrument imbalance, Scholz' is so secluded in his recording room, he doesn't seem to register how ever since the nineties there has been a return to more natural recording sounds at all. Or maybe the new recording quality is just unforgiving to that cut and paste approach he has always employed. In parts it sounds like classic rock/AOR must sound to people who don't like classic rock or AOR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdq0HXGITk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysz0-YDCQzQ

But thinking about it now, that could be an EB on those tracks.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: Basvarken on January 17, 2014, 09:49:53 AM
I think that drum sound has everything to with the guitar overload. There is no room for drums (or bass for that matter) left in that mix.
Sound like there are 4000 guitar tracks and about 5 for the rest...
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: uwe on January 17, 2014, 11:29:31 AM
Could be, he does spend too much time in his recording studio you know! I give him that he "invented" and shaped a sound with that first album, but since then there has been zilch pogression or even variation.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: copacetic on January 17, 2014, 12:56:00 PM
Re the jazz pup placed at an angle: well that would be the only way as the spacing is for a wider string spacing.
By no means a Boston fan and would not know them from any of the other crap, I would be interested in what a mudbucker and a Jazz pup together sound like.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: LoEndMaestro on January 17, 2014, 02:58:04 PM
Could be, he does spend too much time in his recording studio you know! I give him that he "invented" and shaped a sound with that first album, but since then there has been zilch pogression or even variation.

This.


Just because it takes you decades between records doesn't mean they're good.

Interesting bass though.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: gweimer on January 17, 2014, 03:17:50 PM
It was done, somewhat, before Scholz.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3r8Mo7PJl8GNVYZKNR9VL41_2PNbp1BTuETr_5qGduM_t2Re1)
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: LoEndMaestro on January 17, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
Dunaway?
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: 4stringer77 on January 17, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
I get a heavy dose of Boston on the old fm radio round these parts. It rocks enough to be tolerable all be it a tad sappy. The new stuff is about as good as I'd expect for something as far removed from it's heyday. Shame about Brad Delp taking his own life. I regret not seeing him in Beatlejuice.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: gweimer on January 17, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Dunaway?

Yes, indeed!
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: godofthunder on January 20, 2014, 07:44:14 AM
 Any time I have heard reference to this bass it has been vaguely  described as a old Gibson, no detail about the model, strings or mods. Nice to finally know what it is. I always enjoyed the playing on the first two albums and thought the bass had a great sound and was placed well in the mix. Always suspected it was a SS EB of some stripe.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: lowend1 on January 20, 2014, 08:38:59 AM
Could be, he does spend too much time in his recording studio you know! I give him that he "invented" and shaped a sound with that first album, but since then there has been zilch pogression or even variation.

I'd be willing to out on a limb and say that if he stopped after the first album, his legacy as a musician and songwriter would be virtually the same (which is considerable). Most of his name recognition after that was due to the development of the Rockman.
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: mc2NY on January 20, 2014, 10:29:51 AM
Yes, indeed!


I like that bass. Then again, I like most green basses :)

One of my ex guitarists (Rick Tedesco) who was in my band for a few years has been Dunaway's guitarist for a number of years now. Rather funny because another former guitarist of mine that Rick had replaced (Al Pitrelli) got stolen by Alice Cooper.

Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: Hörnisse on January 20, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
Tried to blow the pic up a bit.  Still would like to see a good shot of this bass.  Loved the playing on the first LP. 

(http://i44.tinypic.com/9sgcqo.jpg)
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: amptech on January 20, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
In fact bass players have picked it up and gone ugh, you play this?<<


My EB0F was set up like this when I got it. I plugged it in, and thought ´ugh, I can´t play this :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: Highlander on January 20, 2014, 03:44:44 PM
They toured here, '78 iirc, and it was a great show... Rainbow Theatre... still have the tee and prog... I presently do not have a single Boston recording on any format but still have Goudreau's solo LP knocking about somewhere...
Sheehan used a Jazz mostly...
Title: Re: Tom Scholz' Gibson Bass
Post by: godofthunder on January 20, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
The Frog! got to see that bass in person at the R&R hall of fame.
It was done, somewhat, before Scholz.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ3r8Mo7PJl8GNVYZKNR9VL41_2PNbp1BTuETr_5qGduM_t2Re1)