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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: ilan on November 14, 2014, 01:17:45 PM

Title: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: ilan on November 14, 2014, 01:17:45 PM
So I have this late-70's Fender P that I want to sell/trade. The body is stripped to natural, some replacement parts (pickguard, bridge), but not butchered or hacked. It's a decent bass but I have better Fenders. Someone in a local board is offering a Gibson Grabber for trade. It's a natural finish bass and looks original. I am thinking of offering him my P for the Grabber+cash. How much $$ is fair to ask in such a trade? Thanks
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: uwe on November 14, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
I know nothing about the value of Fenders (do they have value at all?  :mrgreen: ), but even a Grabber in very good condition shouldn't fetch more than 1.000 bucks, a regularly used one more along 700 US-$. That bass got never over its budget image though it would probably make a lot of bassists more happy than its more valuable sibling, the Ripper.

Am I wrong? Have Grabber prices dramatically risen?
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: dadagoboi on November 15, 2014, 06:56:46 AM
Am I wrong? Have Grabber prices dramatically risen?

Difficult to find a decent one for less than $1000 IMO.  That's what I paid for this one last year on Ebay.  It was after a long search and returning one with a frozen saddle bridge with no cover or case to a respectable dealer.  That one was $900.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/GRABBER/P1040621_zps043ab925.jpg) (http://s976.photobucket.com/user/cata1d0/media/GRABBER/P1040621_zps043ab925.jpg.html)

No way I'd trade it for a late 70s stripped P with unoriginal p/g and bridge.   But that's just me.  I could build a similar bass for less than $500.
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: godofthunder on November 15, 2014, 08:38:14 AM
  I would take a Grabber over a Ripper any day and I have had plenty of both. I'm not a big fan of trades. I'd sell the P and get as much out of it as I possibly could then go with cash in hand. Grabber prices are up I paid $450 for my black one with case but that must be at least 6-7 years ago.
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: ilan on November 15, 2014, 09:43:41 AM
Thanks guys. I was under the impression that Grabbers were still $500-600. I guess that has changed.

I prefer a bolt-on over a set-neck for tonal and maintenance reasons, and I like the Grabber's simplicity. If the seller is at all interested in this trade, this could be a good cross-over bass for me, given my Fender/Ric preferences.
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: amptech on November 15, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
Though I´ve only looked out for EB0/3´s the last years, I always check Grabber values/auctions when looking for Gibsons - as I´ve had a Grabber since I was 14. $1000 seems to be the average price these days. I´ve only seen one that was priced way too high, but it was wine red autographed by some Gene Simmons guy. I have a nutural, and wouldn´t mind having a black or red - but the autograph didn´t wash off so I let it go:-)

Seriously, I´d never part with my Grabber - it always sounds good whatever style. I have a mid 70´s P-bass too, had it for about 20 years, but never really liked it like I like my Gibsons (or even my rick). Guess P´s are fine, but I keep tinkering with it to improve it, so there must be something wrong with it! Maybe it´s a tad heavy and therefore not comfy, maybe
I´m just not a fender guy..   
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: ilan on November 15, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
What is a typical weight for a Grabber?
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: amptech on November 15, 2014, 04:25:29 PM
What is a typical weight for a Grabber?

Mine is 3,58 kg (had to check it now)
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: ilan on November 16, 2014, 12:01:21 AM
So under 8 lbs.? Wow. I would have thought that this big maple body would be at least 9 lbs.
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: amptech on November 16, 2014, 03:01:37 AM
It surprised me too, though it´s lighter than my P bass for sure. I thought maybe my digital scale was off, but it measures one package of sugar just right (1 kg).  Mine is a 75 model, which they made (i think) with alder or maple both with maple necks. I assume it´s maple by looks, because the finish on the back wears off in flakes just like on my ´75 4001 rick.

It´s a wide body, but not very deep - and there´s plenty of routing under that big pickguard. They even removed more neck pocket wood than necessary on mine! Think I posted that in an early thread.

I´m really glad I got it, as a kid I wanted a slim, pink metallic Ibanez with ultra thin neck. My uncle (a Kiss fan) was selling his grabber for $200, and i went straight to the local guitar store to trade it for an Ibanez.  But they couldn´t trade it in for more than $200 and I had no money, so I kept it. The shop owner even advised me to learn to play on the grabber even though I thought it was big and bulky at the time. So I did, and when I found out the bass could be set up with a lower action an thinner strings a couple of years later, I had incredible speed :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: godofthunder on November 16, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
 Early Grabbers have alder bodies and are lighter. Later ones have maple  bodies and are heavier. I forget what year they changed maybe '78?
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: amptech on November 17, 2014, 01:50:08 AM
According to Jules, alder was an option as late as 77 but no mention of when they stopped making alder bodies.

Maybe mine is alder, then.
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: ilan on November 17, 2014, 02:45:10 AM
I've seen grabbers with black headstock fascia and others with a plain maple headstock. When was the change?

The bass in question is a '78. This is the pic he has uploaded:

(http://www.ibass.co.il/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4813.0;attach=1781)
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: uwe on November 17, 2014, 02:22:50 PM
The maple ones also sound different, more massive and dense with a bit more sub-lows, not as barky and low mid-rangy as the alder ones. The alder ones are a lot more dent-prone though, so if the Grabber in question is in good condition, it's probably a maple one because the alder ones do suffer over time unless they lie conserved in a case.

Does the one you're interested in have a skunk stripe? Those were the earliest one and had a different headstock angle too (actually no headstock angle as such, rather the headstock was recessed).
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: dadagoboi on November 17, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
My '75 is tight grain lightweight 5 piece alder.  7.5 lbs.  Until I saw Scott's post I thought it was soft maple but I took another look. 
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: amptech on November 17, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
Ok, mine is low midrangy-barky and dented to the brim, so it´s alder then! What you can learn in one day :)
Title: Re: Trading for a Gibson
Post by: dadagoboi on November 17, 2014, 03:52:53 PM
Ok, mine is low midrangy-barky and dented to the brim, so it´s alder then! What you can learn in one day :)

Mine isn't dented and sounds like my alder/maple/ Duncan Antiquity II/ Precision with the same settings on my B-15.  Same flats on both.  Grabber pup in bridge position.