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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Dave W on March 17, 2021, 02:23:14 PM
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Coming March 27, Here's your chance (https://hibid.com/catalog/261573/ted-nugent-collection-auction/?g=all-categories). Bidding is open now.
Advertised as Guns, Guitars and Cars, also includes everything from amps to crossbows. Ted's '68 Bronco Half Cab (https://hibid.com/lot/82955884/ted-nugents-1968-ford-bronco-half-cab/) is expected to fetch $50-80K.
Please, let's leave politics out of any comments.
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Okay, no politics.
But Ted sucks :popcorn: :mrgreen:
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Can't we all just get along? Nice to see even Tom Morello can extend an olive branch.
https://loudwire.com/tom-morello-ted-nugent-friendship/
That's a sweet Bronco. Would rather have one like that than whatever Ford's rolling out these days. Will be interesting to see what some of that stuff goes for.
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I don't have an issue with saying that Ted is a fine, fluid und rhythmically strong guitarist. I never cared much for his singing, hence I'm always pitching for Derek St. Holmes. I own all of Ted's studio and a lot of his live albums.
Ted has politicized his music himself. Modern day Lynyrd Skynyrd are hardly less conservative, neither are Jack Blades of Night Ranger or Rick Springfield or Alice Cooper. I own all albums of all these four artists as well. But they are not inane about it. Ted, unfortunately, relishes in being a buffoon and outrageous scarecrow for liberal minded people. That is best ignored when discussing his musical abilities. It sure hasn't helped his career either, but has obscured it.
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Ted Nugent signature ammo.....why?
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Ted Nugent signature ammo.....why?
Because, as Uwe notes, he politicizes things. Others who have a similar bent will no doubt buy it.
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I've never paid any attention to Ted's views on guns and ammo until a video kept popping up in my YT feed within the past year: "Ted Nugent Proves A Shotgun Is Deadlier Than An AR-15"
In the video, Ted "proves" that 12 gauge 00 buck shotshells are deadlier than the 5.56×45mm NATO cartridges that can pierce a helmet at 500 yards. Somebody better call the military and let them know! I'm no expert, far from it, but almost everything he says in the video is either wrong or misleading. The video was a segment from Alex Jones' Infowars. Go figure.
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I've never paid any attention to Ted's views on guns and ammo until a video kept popping up in my YT feed within the past year: "Ted Nugent Proves A Shotgun Is Deadlier Than An AR-15"
In the video, Ted "proves" that 12 gauge 00 buck shotshells are deadlier than the 5.56×45mm NATO cartridges that can pierce a helmet at 500 yards. Somebody better call the military and let them know! I'm no expert, far from it, but almost everything he says in the video is either wrong or misleading. The video was a segment from Alex Jones' Infowars. Go figure.
I would simply comment that the spirit and the levels of logic and reason are about equal between those two.
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Ted's shtick has been the same for ages: rub people the wrong way. I first saw him in 1977 touring Free for All and of course he did what he then always did at gigs: Tell the invented story how he and his band had coincidentally just met a group of Hare Krishnas at the local airport only to beat them up. Now I have never seen Hare Krishnas at airports, but Ted met them all the time even when he wasn't flying or when the city didn't even have an airport, but let's not quibble about details. He always won and came away unscathed too, which must be vital for a guitarist. Now we all know that Hare Krishnas like all preachy religions can be a pain in the proverbial body part, but even as a teenager I wondered why it was important for him to tell this night after night. Perhaps he liked the heroic image. Hare Krishna beater, wow!
Fast forward some 40 years und basically nothing has changed. When he shoots ("arrows") a bear, it's not sufficient for him to do that quietly and boast about it before his hunting pals (shoot unsuspecting bear with hi-tech arrow - wow!), he has to film a lurid vid about it, knowing full well how that will offend more people watching the creature die in pain (und trying to get away wounded) than entertain a hunting audience. His mindset is that he tries to be as offensive to people from the main street to the left spectrum as Marilyn Manson tries to be to, say, Evangelicals. Except that Brian is more artsy about it und leaves the bears out which are largely apolitical anyway so I've heard.
It's all not very adult and kind of tiresome, really.
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Ted's shtick has been the same for ages: rub people the wrong way. I first saw him in 1977 touring Free for All and of course he did what he then always did at gigs: Tell the invented story how he and his band had coincidentally just met a group of Hare Krishnas at the local airport only to beat them up. Now I have never seen Hare Krishnas at airports, but Ted met them all the time even if he wasn't flying or if the city didn't even have an airport, but let's not quibble about detalis. He always won and came away unscathed too, which must be vital for a guitarist. Now we all know that Hare Krishnas like all preachy religions can be a pain in the proverbial body part, but even as a teenager I wondered why it was important for him to tell this night after night. Perhaps he liked the heroic image. Hare Krishna beater, wow!
Fast forward some 40 years und basically nothing has changed. When he shoots ("arrows") a bear, it's not sufficient for him to do that quietly and boast about it before his hunting pals (shoot unsuspecting bear with hi-tech arrow - wow!), he has to film a lurid vid about it, knowing full well how that will offend more people watching the creature die in pain (und trying to get away wounded) than entertain a hunting audience. His mindset is that he tries to be as offensive to people from the main street to the left spectrum as Marilyn Manson tries to be to, say, Evangelicals. Except that Brian is more artsy about it und leaves the bears out which are largely apolitical anyway so I've heard.
It's all not very adult and kind of tiresome, really.
I've never had any interest in Ted Nugent. Mostly what I know about him is what I read on this site. After reading this post, however, I dislike him even more. I don't know if he has a personality disorder, is just an asshole or is an asshole with a personality disorder.
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On further investigation, I see that Ted Nugent has had some positive things to say about Golden Earring. In my book at least, this is a good thing. This doesn't mean his flawed behavior should be ignored. But I like Ted Nugent's taste in music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJvkBBm4Rs
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Nugent's own music has Motown influences all over, he's not just some white-bread heavy metal merchant. He has really ingested Detroit music on a comprehensive scale and it shows in his playing and groove - there is a bit of James Brown Soul Revue frantic-ness in Ted's live act too. Fellow Detroiters (let's count Flint in, ok?) Grand Funk Railroad had that underneath all their outward heaviness as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVJaB4mzIc
This ain't heavy metal. (Once again proof how much Derek St. Holmes elevates Ted's music when he allows him to sing.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTUGwn9inNM
And looking at Derek St. Holmes here - it never occurred to me before -, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't some Black ancestry with him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0bAAZ0kJVE
So Ted at least isn't a racist, what a relief.
That makes it all so ironic, underneath the idiot with his inane comments and actions lies a good musician.
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He's a disgusting human, I hope he dies in horrible pain.
Regarding his music, it was only good when St Holmes was involved with it.
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Speaking of Alex Jones, here's a heavy metal treatment to him speaking. Works well together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw8pz6OhPPM
Animal cruelty is indefensible but seeing what happens to a deer population when there are no controls on it's numbers is gross too. So many dead ones on the roads of eastern long island it's truly heartbreaking.
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He's a disgusting human, I hope he dies in horrible pain.
Regarding his music, it was only good when St Holmes was involved with it.
So... you won't be bidding on his guitars? :mrgreen:
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So... you won't be bidding on his guitars? :mrgreen:
Or the crossbow? :puke: :puke: :puke:
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Speaking of Alex Jones, here's a heavy metal treatment to him speaking. Works well together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw8pz6OhPPM
Animal cruelty is indefensible but seeing what happens to a deer population when there are no controls on it's numbers is gross too. So many dead ones on the roads of eastern long island it's truly heartbreaking.
1. Alex is a real talent. He does lots of things right, but seldom something well.
2. I have no issues with hunting for population control or to eat or because an animal is posing a danger to humans. But that video of Ted killing a bear saw him practically have a boner while the bear was suffering. It was obscene. Can't find the vid right now, it's apparently no longer up, but this here is similar, if not quite as bad, but he still has a boner. Watch from 1:40 onwards at your own peril, not for the faint-hearted. I've been to hunts, but I never saw someone gloat like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXe5JdQGb0Y
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Fifty grand for a restored Bronco? I will pass. Lots of fun stuff there. I have always enjoyed Ted. Good luck.
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Some more Ted Nugent news.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-tests-positive-covid-130610881.html
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Hope he gets better soon. Regarding masks, this scientific study concludes they are ineffective at blocking covid-19 transmission between people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
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Some more Ted Nugent news.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ted-nugent-tests-positive-covid-130610881.html
Hope it kills him, worthless piece of $%#@
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https://youtu.be/tldGgGFe194
Nuff said. :rolleyes:
I don't wish him ill, just some - and I use the word cautiously with him - self-realization once he recuperates. Switch on your mind Ted next time you loudmouth about something you have no idea about.
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Hope he gets better soon. Regarding masks, this scientific study concludes they are ineffective at blocking covid-19 transmission between people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
Interesting article, but I checked the disclaimer on the page, and it stated in part:
"PMC is a repository of content primarily from two sources: peer reviewed journals that overall have met NLM’s standards for PMC; and peer reviewed author manuscripts deposited in compliance with the public access policy of NIH or other collaborating funders.
PMC is not a publisher and does not publish journal articles itself. Once a journal as a whole has been accepted for inclusion in PMC, NLM does not judge the quality of individual articles and relies on the scientific publishing process to identify and address problems through published comments, corrections, and retractions. NIH and other funders do not dictate the journals in which their funded authors may publish. Consequently, author manuscripts in PMC may be from journals that have not yet undergone scientific review by NLM, are traditionally out of scope for the NLM collection, or have not met NLM’s standards for PMC.
In addition, as of June 2020 PMC includes preprints reporting NIH supported research in support of the NIH Preprint Pilot. As preprints are interim research products that have not been peer reviewed, readers should be aware that any aspect of the research, including the results and conclusions, may change as a result of peer review.
The presence of an article in PMC does not reflect an endorsement of, or concurrence with, the contents of the article by NLM."
This particular article was published by them in November of 2020, and it appears to me that the world has had more experience and learned more about the efficacy of face masks related to Covid since then. It was not from a peer reviewed journal, and is a single author article which may or may not have been reviewed by peers. There is no indication of what review(s) the article may have undergone. I do note that the grammar is erratic and there are typos here and there. I therefore assume it has not been reviewed, but published under the June 2020 preprint pilot referred to in the third paragraph quoted above.
This article is not actually a scientific study, it is a compilation and interpretation of articles and meta-analyses and studies, some of which date back a few years. This approach is generally is OK with me, but we should realize it is not a report of a study conducted by the author or others. It is instead an interpretation of other studies reported in scientific literature. Cherry picking is by no means uncommon with an article of this nature.
The article is so relentlessly negative that I personally would take its interpretation with caution. If this sounds like I read it with a questioning attitude and looking for a basis to challenge its assertions, that is a correct assumption. YMMV.
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Regarding masks, this scientific study concludes they are ineffective at blocking covid-19 transmission between people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/
And there are scientific studies proving the earth is flat too ;)
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But that we already knew, why still investigate it?
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And there are scientific studies proving the earth is flat too ;)
The earth has less curvature than a Home Depot 2 X 4.
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Personally, I never went for that globe theory either, doesn't make sense.
(https://images.theconversation.com/files/218823/original/file-20180514-100722-1yxg7ip.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1200&h=900.0&fit=crop)
And as long as no one tips our earth disc on its head, we're all safe. Take a ride to the land (slipped) disc inside of your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dkqqxwQE1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6FOlFjI3os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga03-TotVyI
He's a good guitarist alright, very organic and rhythmically accurate, yet full of groove. Someone just tape his mouth shut.