I thought it was all mahogany???
what color you going to paint her and any mods?
Finish influences ...
Probably will sound better with the maple, more like a LP
Now the maho doesn't breathe anymore on those things. I simply knew something was wrong ... :-\
Finish influences ... let's not go there!
Funny you should say that. My BaCH sounds more like my maple-less LP than my Fenderbird. Must be construction related. The BaCH and LP are both set necks vs. the bolt-on F-Bird.
I also got some of their amber-tinted clear. I'll experiment with that on a test piece. If it doesn't come out looking soylent-green, I might hit it lightly with that.
I tried that with my project eb-0 and I wopuld stay clear of that, unless you can do a perfect tint coat and not worry about leveling it later.
My problem was I got the white flat then the tint, then the clear, but had sand throughs into the tint. because of that you can not touch it up as tint is transparent, you have to start over from the white coat.
I would just use off white.
If it doesn't come out looking soylent-green, I might hit it lightly with that.
Now the maho doesn't breathe anymore on those things. I simply knew something was wrong ... :-\
Finish influences ... let's not go there!
That's a good point. If I did do that, I was planning to bury the amber coat under four coats of clear.... but yeah- what's to say I won't accidentally sand thru that later. I don't want it to come out blotchy-looking. Then there's also the question of whether I could lay the amber on evenly to begin with... I'm a n00b with this stuff - gotta try and keep it simple (famous last words :mrgreen:)Nitro will yellow on its own in fairly short order - the clear will speed that up. Sand throughs would be real bitch with the amber IMO ;)
The good news (and the reason I chose it) is that I think this ocean turquoise color already has a lot of green hue to it anyway - the amber would probably turn it nuclear! I liked that it falls into that vicinity of aged-pelham-blue-turning-greenish:
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I knew the Bach was heavier than my real NR ! The maple accounts for that. ;D
If I did do that, I was planning to bury the amber coat under four coats of clear.... but yeah- what's to say I won't accidentally sand thru that later. I don't want it to come out blotchy-looking.
All good if it involves stripping black plastic, but seriously the belt sander would be the difficult way to do that Joe - I used some small Xuron cutters and started at one corner and pulled off big pieces very quickly and was done in no time at all................Sorry Uwe!
I used a hacksaw and a wide, flat head screwdriver. I did a vertical cut at each of the four corners of the pup, then pried the plastic off with the screwdriver. I wouldn't use a belt sander because once you get the plastic off, the remaining epoxy block is perfectly proportioned for a nice tight fit in the NOS 70s chrome cover. You might end up distorting the size/shape with the sander.
Thats what I did, and you want it ass smooth, like a mirror so I ended up going through the amber. I had to sand it (tint) all off & start over!
One speck of dust or run, you're screwed with a tint. With a solid you dont have that problem. You better have a perfect dust & humidity free place (you are in AZ right, so that should be good)
What a great thread. That's gonna be beautiful when it's done!George I could not agree more. Regardless of the construction These basses feel like a real NR, and even with the stock pup they sound surprisingly close to the real deal. I like the Art tech pup all the mids and treble of a 60's tbird pup, has a clearer more focused sound, no blur, at least that's the way I describe it. On stage the bass just feels right (having spent years chasing the head stock of a NR around the stage). I run the bass through my Seymour Duncan pup booster pedal on the humbucking 1 setting. Sounds fantastic. Best $377 I ever spent. On the feel subject NR necks varied greatly, Some thin as pencils, my '69 like a baseball bat. The Bach falls somewhere in the middle, very comfortable yet substantial. Have I gone on enough ? I bet in 10 years time people will be faLling all over themselves for a Bach NR
I've been playing mine all week. It feels so comfortable and sounds great. Best $400 each I ever spent!
Mark, that lower one looks like a split coil (P-type) setup. Is that an earlier version?
Is 25% relative humidity ok? That's about what it is here now (and yeah- I'm in the outskirts of Phoenix, AZ). At what point do you risk getting a "cloudiness" in the finish? I should be okay on the wind. Dust is a b1tc4 here, but if the wind is calm I think I'll be okay.
This is the same one I wet sanded with low odor mineral spirits last month, and the color of the sandpaper seeped into the topcoat. I couldn't get it out; I had to shoot another 2 coats
Anyhow, after sanding to 2000 grit I buffed with 3M Finesse-it II Finishing Material Machine Polish, part #39003, with a buffer. Looked decent, but kind rough.
After that, I rubbed Perfect-it II Rubbing Compound, part #39002, by hand. This seemed to have a bit more abrasive that the machine polish, but it knocked down the small lines left from the buffing wheel nicely. The directions state to use with a buffer, but it worked well by hand. It also smoothed out the rough area on the edges that I never feel comfortable smoothing with sandpaper.
The finishing touch was 3M Professional Formula Imperial Hand Glaze, part #39007, which left a deep shine, and polished out any roughness. This stuff is GREAT! It says, "show car finish" on it, and contains no wax or silicones, so it's perfect for nitrocellulose.
Though both Maguire’s and 3M make products that will do a good job, my new favorite is Evercoat medium cut. This stuff works GREAT on lacquer finishes and costs 1/2 as much as the other products. Sometimes the grime is "in" the lacquer and you will take off a lot of finish getting it "out". The trick is in knowing when to stop, in this case. 0000 steel wool can be helpful in conjunction with polishing compound when the finish is really dirty. Follow that with a medium cut polish on a rag and then a finer polish and a glaze or detail polish like Mist and Shine.
Michael
Man, what a a great idea - I use a small block of cherry, that I carefully shaped and a pink erarser. The last nitro job I did I sanded with mineral oil - worked great but a bit on the messy side.
... sand paper and I soaked mine overnight is a mixture of water & soft soap (removes grease, finger prints when sanding)
I use hard white styrofoam blocks to sand
The last nitro job I did I sanded with mineral oil - worked great but a bit on the messy side.
Mark, do you have any pics of the NS II pickups? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!
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I use hard white styrofoam blocks to sand with...........
Man, what a a great idea - I use a small block of cherry, that I carefully shaped and a pink eraser. The last nitro job I did I sanded with mineral oil - worked great but a bit on the messy side.
Give me a day or two Andy, I'll get you some shots.
Oh, Chromium - don't forget the sanding sealer! It is your best friend ;) I like the ReRanch spray stuff
Das ist richtig. Gut observiert.Uwe, I love it when you talk German. ;)
Fascinating to see. Will it eventually start growing leaves?
I didn't know your name was Alex, man...
Alex is not here man... ;)
Alex?
Alex???
Alex's not here.
Bueller?
Bueller?
I just usually go to a finer grit of paper and sand carefully - I actually just screw more stuff up trying to be clever :-[
Hey - it looks just like it did when I started! ;D
When are you shooting the color? Wating for the humidity to drop? ;D
Overdid the spray-tan, Joe... ;D
How's the fin going, Joe...?
Saw it was 110 degrees in AZ.
Looking great Joe.
Joe, If no one knows the answer to the coil question I can pop one of my pickups tonite to verify it for you.
I expect the next photos will be in color
As for the color coat flaws I would post some closeups at RR - you'll have an answer by days end.
As a rule I stick with rule of 3 for the most part. One thing that I do is shoot extra coats on the edges as these are real bitch to sand without sand throughs >:(
As a rule I stick with rule of 3 for the most part. One thing that I do is shoot extra coats on the edges as these are real bitch to sand without sand throughs >:(
Oh noooooo!
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Well, back to pruning.
The latest:
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Gonna try to start the clear coats Friday...
Before I screw mine up too badly I was wondering how you cut the notches for the reverse tuners on the headstock? Also, how did you know where to cut the notches? I've got some I want to install but it seems like it is a tight fit.
I second that, even though that body has quite rounded edges, be careful when sanding.
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Oh man- thanks for the kind words, all! Its back hanging out in the garage now....
GARAGE!? Oh, wait you live in Arizona - no humidity to slow down the cure :-[ I've always hung my bodies in my office closet to dry so that they wouldn't get damp and would have an even temp to cure.
Regardless, that 'bird is the bomb ;D
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It must be a difference in the light, but the color in the first two shots is quite different than the color of the finished bass. Is it the light? Or perhaps that the first shots didn't have all the color coats in place? Or both?
And can you please remind me of the name of that color? I think it's ReRanch's Lake Placid Blue....
I think part of the color shift is the orientation of the metallic particles in the final coat...they change the reflective quality of the light depending on the angle viewed.
That phenomenon is a pain to car painters when they have to do a single panel like a door or fender - the color can look different from adjacent panels because the orientation of the metallic changes the way it reflects light.
Man, the body on that bass is chromalicious!
Thanks for the reminder on the color. If I get the EB-0 I have my eye on, it will probably become either Lake Placid Blue or Ocean Turquoise.
Has it been a month yet! ;D
This is just a thing of beauty! I'd be afraid to take it out of the house ;)
Haha - yeah I did strip it. It seemed like the conductive paint was impeding the natural resonance of the wood. :P
i always thought that sheilding paint was made from nickle dust. beetle poop? really?
Anyone want to know what E120 - Cochineal food dye is made of - totally natural... ;D
Anyone want to know what E120 - Cochineal food dye is made of - totally natural... ;D
If you read the USDA guideline there are very small amounts of all kinds of disgusting things that are allowed in food products - in very small amounts.
AHHHHH!!!!! the dead are risen...! :mrgreen:
Followed a link here from another recent post. Wow that thing is pretty. Are you still playing it a lot?