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Main Forums => The Outpost Cafe => Topic started by: Dave W on April 08, 2015, 02:34:15 PM
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From Uwe's latest out-of-office reply: "Yeehaw! Howdy! I'm on a road trip with my 20 year old son in the Grand Old Deep South: Borat would say: "Cultural Learnings of America for make Benefit of his Glorious Blues Guitar Playing!" I will catch up on your emails in the evenings in seedy motels and diners on unmapped roads, when fending off alligators or whilst consoling him how legal drinking age in the Land of the Free is - ooops - 21."
:mrgreen:
Wondering if he packed those assless chaps...
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Blues guitar... Southern States... hmm...
Are they coming home via Chicago to give them a proper grounding in the blues or are they just taking the scenic route...?
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I truly wish I could be there too! ;D
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Maybe #1 son is the designated driver.
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Wondering if he packed those assless chaps...
My wife & I are heading down as far as Missouri & Tennessee for a week, starting this Saturday. On the long shot that I might get mooned by a Global Moderator, I'm bringing my sunglasses.......... (Is he going to stop by Gibson & give Henry J. a piece of his mind??)
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Maybe he'll get some partners and buy Henry J. out! That would certainly open up new possibilities for ze kollekshun.
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in my best Foghorn Leghorn voice:
"Tennessee, the deep south?! As a suthun gentleman from the great state of Georgia I am o-ffended sir! A fine ally during the terrible war of northern aggression but the deep south Tennessee is not!"
Alright, I'll go back to being a transplant from Minnesota now...
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in my best Foghorn Leghorn voice:
"Tennessee, the deep south?! As a suthun gentleman from the great state of Georgia I am o-ffended sir! A fine ally during the terrible war of northern aggression but the deep south Tennessee is not!"
Alright, I'll go back to being a transplant from Minnesota now...
They are going to the deep south. After Nashville they were going to travel down the Mississippi Delta.
Foghorn would never say that, but the character who inspired him would. Senator Beauregard Claghorn was a character voiced on the old Fred Allen radio show. The man behind the voice, Kenny Delmar, was actually from Boston.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTB9cT1aG8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi_X4BFpvnY
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I often find the British actors to be the best at doing Southern accents. In general, they do a better job than American actors and actresses who aren't Southern. You've got the standard stereotype of Plantation Southern English. But there are many different Southern accents. Even Mississippi and Alabama are very different. I recently found these examples.
Here is Alabama. This is North and Central Alabama. South Alabama would be very different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3iouDIA6Dw
Here is Mississippi. The difference from Alabama is easily noticeable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt04Y5jqUyQ
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Having lived in Mississippi, I don't find that video accurate. But there are noticeable differences within different parts of the state, just as there are here in Minnesota. I assume the same is true almost anywhere else.
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Being from Alabama, I was a little shocked once I started spending time in Mississippi. I had a job that required me to work in different areas. I ended up working for months in places such as Jackson, Port Gibson, Clarksdale, and Gulfport. I was in all these places for months at a time. I was in Port Gibson the longest. It's close to Vicksburg. While I was in Port Gibson, I even briefly talked to an English professor (who wasn't from the South.) I told him that I had always assumed that Alabama and Mississippi were about the same, but that I was actually having a problem understanding people in Mississippi sometimes. It was so long ago, I can't remember the details. But he did go through some kind of explanation on why the Mississippi accent might sound indistinct to my ears. On the other hand, I'm really not very fond of the Alabama accent. As far as I'm concerned, the Mississippi accent might even sound better. However, I do think that lady in the video is admitting she is only doing a stereotype in the Mississippi video. Her Alabama accent is very accurate.
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While living in Texas, I could tell at least four different accents, with Deep East Texas being the most multi-syllabic and closest to a "deep south" sound. As you travel west in Texas the accent moderates.
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While living in Texas, I could tell at least four different accents, with Deep East Texas being the most multi-syllabic and closest to a "deep south" sound. As you travel west in Texas the accent moderates.
Yes sir about four plus! East Texas is most probably closer to the stereotypical Texas accent.
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i worked in central rural mississippi for while and thought the accents very mild, almost like the maryland, delaware coastal region. i was quite surprised.
that accent lady is laughable. mississippi, indeed. :o
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What many of the experts can't get right is the local vernacular and the way certain words are commonly used used. For example my first trip to New England I kept getting directions to take the "rotary", pronounced raWTry, and "jug handle" ??? After the first time I got it but damn was I one confused Texas boy when I started trying to communicate with locals - the locals were equally baffled ;)
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The people I LIVE around who were born here in East Tennessee can sometimes not understand me through my accent, but they're all native city-folk whose accents are a mixture of TV Midwestern and Michigan/Ohio/Illinois where their parents were from. Listening to my niece and nephew who were raised by my parents and television is a trip. They sound like perfect little Northerners until the odd "country" word comes out.
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This heading, sort of, works for London and the "South" of the UK as well...
The "Square Mile" (UK's Wall St) speaks CASH in various dialects and flavours...
The "West End" (Broadway) has just about any accent and language you care to think of...
To the East, the call of the minarets and a mix of Arabic can be heard...
To the South can be heard the lilt of a Caribbean accent, with smatterings of Korean to the South-West...
Acton to the West has a distinct Somalian twist...
In North London there can still be heard, that Turkish and Cypriot twang...
As for that "Gore-Blimey Guv'nor..." call of the black-cab driver, East-ender... almost resigned to TV...
As for Londoners in general, over all points, Rumanian, Latvian, Chech, Slovak, Lithuanian, and not forgetting Polish accents, can be found everywhere...
I often have trouble remembering what London was like only a decade ago...
... and, with luck, we will be up for sale by the end of the month... my "handle" beckons... ;)
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Polish and Polish-accented English are also very common in Dublin.
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There's a lot of Dublin in Kilburn (and the High-Roads) ... ;)
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There's a lot of Dublin in Kilburn (and the High-Roads) ... ;)
Considering how the Irish economy started going down after 2008, I can see how there would be those leaving in large numbers to places such as London. I was there before 2008. But I've heard that a lot of the Polish decided to go back to Poland and take their chances there again.
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Plenty of different dialects in my neck of the woods. Northeast Minneapolis has seen waves of immigrants for well over a century, starting with the Poles.
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Everyone forgets how long the Poles have been here, and the most obvious pointer is the two Squadrons of Spitfires that flew in the BofB, entirely crewed by Poles...
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Howdy! How y'all? Just to say I'm back. Will share my impressions later. Why was I silent for so long? My BlackBerry got caught in some incessant software loop a few days into our vacation and would not get out of start mode to load (until it ran empty everytime), so I could neither send nor receive any emails or have internet access. And getting a BB repaired or buying a new one (that was unlocked and could be employed with my Deutsch Telekom SIM card) proved impossible - I learned the hard way that the South is I-Phone and Samsung smart phone country.
Nashville, Memphis, Vicksburg, Natchez, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Pensacola and the Gulf Coast/Redneck Riviera, Montgomery and a lot more of Alabama, bits of South and North Carolona, the Great Smoky Mountains/Appalachians as well as Knoxville were hit along the way. Lots of things to learn and see (some pleasantly confirming what we had expected/hoped for, some utterly surprising: for instance I never thought that Alabama would have so many seemingly untouched woods and forests) - very friendly people, lots of rain (that is what you get when you travel in April, serves us right, but it didn't deter us) and oversize food servings.
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Everyone forgets how long the Poles have been here, and the most obvious pointer is the two Squadrons of Spitfires that flew in the BofB, entirely crewed by Poles...
But those were (valiantly) flown by Polish volunteers, ex-Polish Airforce men, who had made off to England after Poland surrendered.They were not so much immigrants but patriots re-enlisting in the army of an allied power to free their country and return there.
I always found that those Polish RAF squadrons (along with the French ones) had a fair share in getting mentioned in RAF history (as you would expect from those sporty Brits, I know no other country which commemorates the valor of its own lost men and the men who caused that loss in one and the same place - when we were in Scotland lots of churches commemorated the casualties of the sunk Royal Oak, but very often also mentioning "Günter Prien and his brave U-Boat crew"). There was even a nice film about a Polish Spitfire pilot falling in love with an English Rose a few years back (planes didn't play much of a role, it was a romance).
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A lot of the Polish never went home after the war and settled the area east-and-west of where they were based, so some have been here over 70 years; those that are still living...
My favourite war film is Das Boot, in German; not the dubbed version, though I have both... my Swiss/German ex neighbour - his dad was on U Boots throughout WWII...
A WWII U Boot sunk a ship my granddad was on, but he lived (not to) tell the tale...
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I understand that war-destroyed and Stalin-controlled Poland wasn't much of an attraction for them. Quite a few of the German POWs stayed too.
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... and the Italians... and they opened numerous little restaurants...
I still don't understand why lederhosen never caught on...
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Yup, we learned at the Orkneys that the Italian POWs there introduced pasta to the Scottish townfolk in the 40ies. While the Italian POWs were generally happy about their very fair treatment (not so much about the Orkney weather!), they found that the Orkney cuisine needed some development.
Oh, and they also showed how you can turn two Nissen huts into something beautiful, even sacred:
(http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/eastmainland/italianchapel/images/grillex.jpg)
(http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/eastmainland/italianchapel/images/chapel-450.jpg)
(http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/Images/Italian%20prisoners%20of%20war%20L_tcm4-568136.jpg)
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/eastmainland/italianchapel/images/grillex.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/eastmainland/italianchapel/&h=338&w=450&tbnid=gmX0PNSlzdJuLM:&zoom=1&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&usg=__1ZGFM57Nung0DQ-tXbyiysrLxfo=&docid=ZderkpG0wOCeEM
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Did you get into the Civil War stuff in any of those places, Uwe??
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Sure - we spent nearly a complete day at Vicksburg National Memorial Park. Reminded me of the fields of Verdun and the WWI slaughter there. It hadn't crossed my mind until then that the Civil War was the US' incisive first experience that old tactics and beginning modern weaponry equated in senselessly high casualties. And Grant might have not been the most naturally gifted tactician in the Civil War, but he sure was dogged and repeated failure seemed to breed thinking out of the box moments with him. That in turn reminded me a bit of how the Red Army eventually won its victories against the only initially superior Wehrmacht in WWII.
We saw a couple of smaller and larger Civil War cemeteries along the way too.
And to balance things: The very compelling Civil Rights Museum in Montgomery - the Martin Luther King National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis was unfortunately closed when we were there on Easter Sunday - so we just saw the fateful motel (where it is is located in) and its balcony where he was shot.
Plus: The new WWII Museum in Nashville (nicely done and still developing, but it needs to make much clearer how much the Red Army played a role in beating down Nazi Germany, it is very light on that; also one howler in claiming one military cap with a deathshead skull found in the North African theatre to be a "Waffen-SS cap" - it wasn't, both Wehrmacht tank soldiers and snipers had the skull insignia too, no Waffen-SS soldier ever saw Africa, maybe I'll write to them about that) and of course the Johnny Cash Museum there (very lovingly done). Plus Graceland in Memphis which I had expected to be much, much larger!!! By today's living home standards that is an upper middle class building (in a less than classy or glossy neighborhood) sizewise, nothing more.
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Sure - we spent nearly a complete day at Vicksburg National Memorial Park. Reminded me of the fields of Verdun and the WWI slaughter there. It hadn't crossed my mind until then that the Civil War was the US' incisive first experience that old tactics and beginning modern weaponry equated in senselessly high casualties. And Grant might have not been the most naturally gifted tactician in the Civil War, but he sure was dogged and repeated failure seemed to breed thinking out of the box moments with him. That in turn reminded me a bit of how the Red Army eventually won its victories against the only initially superior Wehrmacht in WWII.
We saw a couple of smaller and larger Civil War cemeteries along the way too.
And to balance things: The very compelling Civil Rights Museum in Montgomery - the Martin Luther King National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis was unfortunately closed when we were there on Easter Sunday - so we just saw the fateful motel (where it is is located in) and its balcony where he was shot.
Plus: The new WWII Museum in Nashville (nicely done and still developing, but it needs to make much clearer how much the Red Army played a role in beating down Nazi Germany, it is very light on that; also one howler in claiming one military cap with a deathshead skull found in the North African theatre to be a "Waffen-SS cap" - it wasn't, both Wehrmacht tank soldiers and snipers had the skull insignia too, no Waffen-SS soldier ever saw Africa, maybe I'll write to them about that) and of course the Johnny Cash Museum there (very lovingly done). Plus Graceland in Memphis which I had expected to be much, much larger!!! By today's living home standards that is an upper middle class building (in a less than classy or glossy neighborhood) sizewise, nothing more.
I'd like to see Vicksburg....I hit 7 or 8 sites last year from Gettysburg (x3) down to fredricksburg. It's taken over all my interests except bass.
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I've been to several--mostly because my work took me to the location. Chickamauga and Vicksburg stand out as being among the most interesting. I was working near both places for quite a while. So I went anytime I wanted to. I've also been to Shiloh, Murfreesboro, & even to the Brice's Crossroads site.
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I've been to several--mostly because my work took me to the location. Chickamauga and Vicksburg stand out as being among the most interesting. I was working near both places for quite a while. So I went anytime I wanted to. I've also been to Shiloh, Murfreesboro, & even to the Brice's Crossroads site.
I'm a total addict..fascinating stuff. The more you read about it, the deeper you get and the more you read..
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I'm a total addict..fascinating stuff. The more you read about it, the deeper you get and the more you read..
I agree that it can have that effect. Much of the drama involved goes far beyond what a fiction writer could ever begin to imagine.
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I hope those oversize food servings included plenty of grits. Everyone needs grits.
The Vicksburg National Park is probably the most sobering place I've ever visited.
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I hope those oversize food servings included plenty of grits. Everyone needs grits.
The Vicksburg National Park is probably the most sobering place I've ever visited.
I agree that grits are very good.
I also felt Vicksburg was the most sobering place I'd ever been to.
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Other impressions:
- Ignoring the Delta charm for a moment, Mississippi has real issues, rural flight is taking real toll on the (mostly all-black) communities there. We saw towns along the river and old highways where basically every second home was bolted shut (and had been for a long time by the looks of it), that can hardly be a good thing. And even those communities that by the looks of it were (still) doing well, once you hit Main Street a third of the shops had been regularly given up, blame it on the mall-o-itis everywhere, but that doesn't beckon well for the future of these small towns either.
- Baton Rouge is incredibly boring, a charmless administrative hub, nothing more. Montgomery, otoh, was real nice. New Orleans gets on your nerves after a while if you live in the French Quarter. And when we were in Pigeon Forge, I momentarily believed that we had lost our way and ended up in Las Vegas! :mrgreen: Lots of vintage cars there though.
- People - black or white - were incredibly friendly in the South, we were asked so many times where we came from when people overheard Leon and me talking German with another. The owner of an all-black smokehouse and B-B-Q in an all-black community (one of the better off ones by the looks of it) in Mississippi demanded to have a picture taken with us and there was this touching moment in northern Alabama when the (white) waitress at some lake lodge sighed (after having quizzed us about Germany): "I've never been anywhere, not even to Nashville ...". And after a while my son and I learned that you can tell many black neighborhoods by the fact that the cars parked before the houses are newer and/or in better shape/well-kept than the houses there. In white neighborhoods it tends to be the other way around. To each his own status symbol I guess.
- We both fell a little in love with Alabama, which came as a surprise, I had expected it a lot dryer, flatter and more agricultural, but it seems like the whole state is one huge forest (unlike Mississippi where the paddle steamers ate up everything) with gently sloping hills (or "buffs" as they are called there) and lakes and rivers. And when it doesn't rain there (the rain followed us around a little), the sky is indeed "so blue" as Lynyrd Skynyrd have always claimed.
- Compared to the East and West Coast, lodging is cheap in the South. We generally stayed in good places, but except in New Orleans in the French Quarter (where we paid 230 Dollars a night in a posh hotel that would have easily cost twice as much in California or New England), we never broke the 150 Dollar barrier for a room with two twin beds (question: "King size bed or twins?" answer: "Twins please, we're father and son which means we're close, but not THAT close!") prices were regularly more around a 100 Dollars ore less.
- The trip confirmed: There really isn't a region in the US that is not worthwhile exploring. You guys have a nice country, take care of it.
- Oh, and my favorite TV evangelist is him now:
(http://bgntvgospel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/maxresdefault6-640x360.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8RXrDHjXC4
I just love his Texan aaaaaaaaa-ccent and the way he maaaaaaaaa-sticates every word plus the slightly unsettling similarity with Jerry Lee Lewis. And where a lot of TV evangelists are either trite (with endless quotes from preferably the Old Testament, you sometimes get the feeling with them like the New Testament was never even written) or blackmail-thuggish with sin, the devil, homosexuality and what have you, he has that David Copperfield type charm and everything is hunky-dory "juuuuuust aaaaaaas looooong aaaaaaaas you let Jeeeeeesus into your liiiiiiiiiiife". That is at least a positive message (and his joke at the start of the youtube vid ain't bad either). Whenever he came on the motel TVs, I was stuck/mesmerized. If they ever do a biopic on him, Matthew McConaughey dyed darkhaired should be perfect for the job.
- I hate to say it, but grits are an acquired taste. :-X
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Actually I love grits...
With lots of real butter for breakfast...sometimes I make cheese grits for lunch or supper. Sort of a mac n cheese substitute.
Greens too...mustard greens collard greens...
Glad you had a good trip. Hope your son soaked up his cultural enrichment lesson. Now he needs to put on those finger picks and play that 5 string.
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Other impressions:
- Oh, and my favorite TV evangelist is him now:
(http://bgntvgospel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/maxresdefault6-640x360.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8RXrDHjXC4
I just love his Texan aaaaaaaaa-ccent and the way he maaaaaaaaa-sticates every word plus the slightly unsettling similarity with Jerry Lee Lewis. And where a lot of TV evangelists are either trite (with endless quotes from preferably the Old Testament, you sometimes get the feeling with them like the New Testament was never even written) or blackmail-thuggish with sin, the devil, homosexuality and what have you, he has that David Copperfield type charm and everything is hunky-dory "juuuuuust aaaaaaas looooong aaaaaaaas you let Jeeeeeesus into your liiiiiiiiiiife". That is at least a positive message (and his joke at the start of the youtube vid ain't bad either). Whenever he came on the motel TVs, I was stuck/mesmerized. If they ever do a biopic on him, Matthew McConaughey dyed darkhaired should be perfect for the job.
- I hate to say it, but grits are an acquired taste. :-X
Joel is a Houston boy born and bred. His daddy was quite the preacher and built up a huge church on the near east side of town in a bad area. When daddy died they tapped his son to replace him - he was not involved too much with the church if memory serves me right. The money was on him falling on his kiester and failing - WRONG! Within ten years he'd grown the church to the point that he signed a long term lease, then purchased, the newly empty Houston Summit, the NBA arena that the Houston Rockets had outgrown. Once again the naysayers said he would fail but I do believe he fills the place up on a regular basis. He's a little too slick in my opinion but the word around town is that he's a very decent guy and is the real deal. His wife has a few critics though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Church_Central_Campus
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Grits are great and even better if you can get organic or non gmo.
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Grits are great and even better if you can get organic or non gmo.
Arrowhead Mills yellow grits. No idea if being non-GMO and organic has anything to do with it, but they taste so much better than Quaker grits.
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Joel Osteen gives me the creeps.
His church was burgled last year, and one weekend's take was $600,000.
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I will have to try arrowhead mills...grits are so simple and inexpensive,and when you learn how to cook them, they taste so good.
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bits of South and North Carolona, the Great Smoky Mountains/Appalachians as well as Knoxville were hit along the way.
How did you find my little redneckopolis?
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I thought Knoxville was cute and that bridge is spectacular, we had dinner by the river. All the downtown hotels were full, so we had to stay at the Airport Hilton which was fine.
(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000k9pfbVJL2BQ/s/1000/20141215-knoxville-tennessee-jb0150.jpg)
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Joel Osteen gives me the creeps.
His church was burgled last year, and one weekend's take was $600,000.
I think he's both unashamedly sleazy and glib in a refreshingly honest way, almost tongue in cheek. But I'm mostly enamoured of his accent on the verge of parody. He's like from a movie about a Southern TV evangelist. Plus he keeps his mouth shut about politics and is not into gay-bashing. I have no issues with the money he makes, he seems to make a lot of people happy, never mind whether with lasting effect or not.
David Miscavige gives me the creeps. I'd prefer to give my kids to Joel and his wife any day, I'm a suppressive person alright.
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He makes a lot of money of his books - I've never read one. He, or his wife, do not take a salary - I don't think they need to. Like I've said not my cup o' tea but there's a lot of folks down here that love him.
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Don't know anything about this guy... are we talking "God will provide", and does...?
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He makes a lot of money of his books - I've never read one. He, or his wife, do not take a salary - I don't think they need to. Like I've said not my cup o' tea but there's a lot of folks down here that love him.
Why would they take a salary? Then they'd have to pay taxes. :puke:
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I thought Knoxville was cute and that bridge is spectacular, we had dinner by the river. All the downtown hotels were full, so we had to stay at the Airport Hilton which was fine.
(http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000k9pfbVJL2BQ/s/1000/20141215-knoxville-tennessee-jb0150.jpg)
That's the Gay Street Bridge, for real. The one about a quarter mile to the west of it, the Henley Street Bridge, has a cascade "waterfall" of fireworks during the Boomsday (Labor Day) and July 4th celebrations. If you're ever this way again, reserve a room at the Oliver Hotel (http://www.theoliverhotel.com/) or let me know and I'll kick the cats out of the spare bedroom.
My father died while you were over here so I lost track of your travels. We weren't close for many years: several strokes had taken away his ability to keep from picking fights with me constantly, so I stayed away.
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I kinda admire a conservative preacher who doesn't go down the road of hate and excluding others; instead, he concentrates on the classic job of raising money.
There is a purity about a guy who knows that his job in life is getting into your pocket. :o
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That's the Gay Street Bridge, for real. The one about a quarter mile to the west of it, the Henley Street Bridge, has a cascade "waterfall" of fireworks during the Boomsday (Labor Day) and July 4th celebrations. If you're ever this way again, reserve a room at the Oliver Hotel (http://www.theoliverhotel.com/) or let me know and I'll kick the cats out of the spare bedroom.
My father died while you were over here so I lost track of your travels. We weren't close for many years: several strokes had taken away his ability to keep from picking fights with me constantly, so I stayed away.
Sorry for your loss. But I was cut off via my malfunctioning BlackBerry anyway. Even out IT here cannot get it to run anymore, they are completely baffled.
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Don't know anything about this guy... are we talking "God will provide", and does...?
My "take" on it is like this. These are just general impressions. I haven't watched him very much. His father was a very successful pastor. As has been stated earlier, Joel stayed in the background all those years. When John Osteen died, that left the opportunity for Joel to take over. But he didn't feel he was qualified & neither did anyone else. When he started preaching, being a pastor or whatever it's exactly called, his approach was one of being very positive. Maybe he had a gift for that that had been totally unknown. For whatever reason, he also comes across as tolerant. How tolerant I don't know exactly. I have a first cousin with a master's in theology who absolutely cannot stand Joel Osteen. He seems to think Osteen is some kind of heretic. I really don't know why.
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my dad has a masters in theology as well. i doubt he knows who osteen is, or any of those other tv clowns. if its not catholic he ain't interested.
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My "take" on it is like this. These are just general impressions. I haven't watched him very much. His father was a very successful pastor. As has been stated earlier, Joel stayed in the background all those years. When John Osteen died, that left the opportunity for Joel to take over. But he didn't feel he was qualified & neither did anyone else. When he started preaching, being a pastor or whatever it's exactly called, his approach was one of being very positive. Maybe he had a gift for that that had been totally unknown. For whatever reason, he also comes across as tolerant. How tolerant I don't know exactly. I have a first cousin with a master's in theology who absolutely cannot stand Joel Osteen. He seems to think Osteen is some kind of heretic. I really don't know why.
Make no mistake about it - he's worth millions. The church does rake tons of money but it's fairly common knowledge that they spend big time on charities - local and otherwise. I've read articles regarding his success and, yes, he's tolerant - no fire and brimstone. A lot of his detractors seem to be upset at his approach but say what you will he's putting 16,000 butts in the pews, or comfy stadium style seating, every Sunday.
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Vintage basses are one thing but....A Blackberry?!?! Your collection has gone too far Uwe.
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Make no mistake about it - he's worth millions. The church does rake tons of money but it's fairly common knowledge that they spend big time on charities - local and otherwise. I've read articles regarding his success and, yes, he's tolerant - no fire and brimstone. A lot of his detractors seem to be upset at his approach but say what you will he's putting 16,000 butts in the pews, or comfy stadium style seating, every Sunday.
I looked on the Internet and can't find whatever it is that Joel Osteen's detractors are complaining about. I'm sure sooner or later I'll run into something. I did find something about his wife in which some people had got upset over some comments she had made. But to me it seemed to be much ado about nothing. If this is a scandal, it's about like a movie being moved from G to PG.
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Vintage basses are one thing but....A Blackberry?!?! Your collection has gone too far Uwe.
Uwe is deeply into antiques and vintage equipment, as we know.
:rolleyes:
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Uwe is deeply into antiques and vintage equipment, as we know.
:rolleyes:
EEssSSssssh! :puke: Why anyone that has choice in the matter would still be using a Blackberry is confusing. My very large corporation has had many thousands of us on BBs for years now - we have written much software that runs on the platform. When we started out with them they were great now they're nightmarish at best and impossible at the worst. We are migrating to Samsung Galaxy 5's any week now. The only detraction for me is size, too damn big, and durability, way the hell to damn fragile. Still for old eyes the big screen will be nice ;D
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EEssSSssssh! :puke: Why anyone that has choice in the matter would still be using a Blackberry is confusing. My very large corporation has had many thousands of us on BBs for years now - we have written much software that runs on the platform. When we started out with them they were great now they're nightmarish at best and impossible at the worst. We are migrating to Samsung Galaxy 5's any week now. The only detraction for me is size, too damn big, and durability, way the hell to damn fragile. Still for old eyes the big screen will be nice ;D
Just moved from a Galaxy 4 (dropped onto concrete from a height and smashed) to a Galaxy 6. I really like the platform and new software version, and Samsung has meddled less with the interface on the 6 than they did on the 4. But fragility is an issue with Gorilla glass front and back, and a slippery touch. I'm being hyper-careful with it until my protective cases arrive. From what I hear, the 5 is a very good unit too.
I understand that due to Blackberry's proprietary server setup it was a security-preferred platform at first, but at present it's fighting for life. Time to migrate out of the steam-powered phone world.
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I'm stuck on a Motorola ES400 brick... I enjoy demonstrating it's dropability survivability but somewhat sadly have yet to be let down... I do know they do not like immersion in liquid... that totalled one...
I still have a mains-powered Makita drill that was accidentally dropped into a vat of hot caustically soapy water and all parties lived to tell the tale... that drill's now circa 25 years old...
Jackie and Roshina are still using iPhone 3's...
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I still have a mains-powered Makita drill that was accidentally dropped into a vat of hot caustically soapy water and all parties lived to tell the tale... that drill's now circa 25 years old
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My Makita drill and circular saw are 31 years old. I've never bathed them, though. ;D
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I have a Craftsman 3/8" VSR drill that I bought used from a ski shop going out of business in about 1982. It's still hanging in there and works fine. I have no idea how many sets of bindings it installed before I got it.
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i guess dave wins the battle of old tools. ;D
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i guess dave wins the battle of old tools. ;D
I'll bet a number of us have tools from grandparents and such. Some of them (like square-jawed wrenches) aren't of much use anymore. I have an orbital sander and 3/8" single-speed drill that are both solid metal cases and probably date to the 50's. Heavy tools, for sure.
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My user planes are up to 100 years old. I can buy new ones that are as good but they are boutique things that cost a fortune. I think the most I've paid for one is $50
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i was only talking about power tools. probably most of us old hand tools from long ago family members.
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I've got a Bridgeport mill from the late 40s if that counts :o
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i was only talking about power tools. probably most of us old hand tools from long ago family members.
True, but how many of the old tools that many people have are relegated to collecting dust on a shelf of, gasp, being wired to wall as decoration? All of my old tools are well tuned, scary sharp and used used constantly. I have some of uncle's power tools as well - most if it early 60's or late 50's - they're a testament to what we used to manufacture right here in the states.