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Title: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: dadagoboi on October 10, 2012, 05:29:56 AM
On CBS Sunday Morning flogging his memoir, "Who I Am."  Nice to see his ExplorerBird in a place of honor.

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/PeteExbirdCBS.jpg)

(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae241/cata1d0/PeteExbirdCBS2.jpg)

Screen shots by Chad E., owner of JAEbird 0036.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: godofthunder on October 10, 2012, 05:39:59 AM
  I knew Pete had one, didn't know it was white. Nice to see it on the wall in Pete's studio.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Big_Stu on October 10, 2012, 07:48:31 AM
He's been doing a fair bit of promo on BBC radio this week; got a pit precious when asked about his police warning but should have known it would come up in conversation. Also seemed to have a memory lapse about the first time he smashed a guitar, now it seems he did it as a reactionary response, I'd read in several places that it was an accident in a low-ceiling venue.
There was also a fair bit of "Oh you'll have to buy the book about that one".
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: gearHed289 on October 10, 2012, 07:55:08 AM
Nice, thanks! He mentioned giving Pete a white one, I think in his Bass Culture book.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 10, 2012, 02:44:01 PM
One I wasn't aware of... looks like it may not be a wallhanger...?
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Aussie Mark on October 10, 2012, 03:37:33 PM
I visited the Sydney Hard Rock Cafe for the first time last weekend, and one of JAE's green Peter Cook Explorerbirds is in a glass case there
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 10, 2012, 04:07:26 PM
I thought they kept that one in the vault - maybe they have two - I believe the one he used in the Who Are You vid is not on display anywhere but there vault...?

I know they will not offer a copy of a detailed pic of them - asked that one and got a polite no for an answer...
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 10, 2012, 05:39:11 PM
Too bad Pete is dumb as a box of rocks. Here he is again (http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/9/3480238/watch-this-pete-townshend-jon-steward-daily-show-interview), running off at the mouth about how Apple should put some of its profits back into the music industry. He just can't seem to understand that iTunes is just another retailer. Not a record label.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: dadagoboi on October 10, 2012, 07:56:17 PM
Too bad Pete is dumb as a box of rocks. Here he is again (http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/9/3480238/watch-this-pete-townshend-jon-steward-daily-show-interview), running off at the mouth about how Apple should put some of its profits back into the music industry. He just can't seem to understand that iTunes is just another retailer. Not a record label.

Stating an opinion formed from almost 50 years of experience and success in an industry doesn't make you "as dumb as a box of rocks".

I'm also pretty sure Townshend understands the difference between a record company and Apple.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: gweimer on October 10, 2012, 08:17:12 PM
I still remember an interview with Daltrey, where he basically said that Townshend has a known disgust for the press and is always playing them.

I made it to 1:42, and got a chuckle when he mentioned "Holiday Inn Rolling Meadows" as where he wrote the lyrics for "Won't Get Fooled Again".  I know right where that is.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 10, 2012, 08:52:41 PM
Stating an opinion formed from almost 50 years of experience and success in an industry doesn't make you "as dumb as a box of rocks".

I'm also pretty sure Townshend understands the difference between a record company and Apple.

I don't think he does. It's not the first time he's come up with this. With the record industry robbing artists blind for years, he looks to a retailer which has done more for artists than the labels have done in their combined history, to plow some of its profits back into an industry that fought its existence tooth and nail. IMHO that's just plain stupid. The labels are responsible for the state of the industry; take them on if you want change.

I respect him as an artist. That doesn't make him smart. His 2003 arrest should have put that to rest.

Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: GonzoBass on October 10, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
One I wasn't aware of... looks like it may not be a wallhanger...?
True, not usually with a strap hanging on it.
It'd be nice if this was his go to bass for tracking.
 8)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 11, 2012, 03:38:49 PM
Wouldn't it just... ;)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2012, 03:41:59 AM
I don't think he does. It's not the first time he's come up with this. With the record industry robbing artists blind for years, he looks to a retailer which has done more for artists than the labels have done in their combined history, to plow some of its profits back into an industry that fought its existence tooth and nail. IMHO that's just plain stupid. The labels are responsible for the state of the industry; take them on if you want change.

I respect him as an artist. That doesn't make him smart. His 2003 arrest should have put that to rest.



Wait a minnit! Because intelligent people aren't child molesters or because intelligent people who are child molesters don't get caught watching kiddie porn? There is a difference.

Like all people on earth except me of course, Pete sometimes doesn't know what he is talking about. That said, he is a deep and thoughtful  man.

And iTunes killed the CD cover and booklet. For that alone they deserve to fry in hell. Music without a cover and a booklet is like having sex with yourself. Plus they aided and abetted the commercial success of a crap sound quality. Double-fry in hell then.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Chris P. on October 12, 2012, 05:24:50 AM
Amen!
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 12, 2012, 06:56:45 AM
Hey, you two dinosaurs! Watch out for meteorites!  :P

Apple didn't invent digital music without the CD, they were just the first to figure out how to monetize it.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: gearHed289 on October 12, 2012, 08:17:45 AM
And iTunes killed the CD cover and booklet. For that alone they deserve to fry in hell. Music without a cover and a booklet is like having sex with yourself. Plus they aided and abetted the commercial success of a crap sound quality. Double-fry in hell then.

Agreed! I don't do iTunes. I like a hard copy/liner notes. I've bought a total of one song, and that was by a friend of mine's, and the only outlet to help support him. I DO download singles from Amazon for cover tunes.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-v4lyOIciPJI/Tpe_dCU421I/AAAAAAAABRc/QPHMwbWYDB4/s400/dino_with_base_color_decal_sticker__96732.jpg)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2012, 09:10:07 AM
That picture says it all. It's nice to be an ancient reptile! With a stero system that amplifies music like it should be heard.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Pilgrim on October 12, 2012, 11:21:30 AM
Ich bin eine reptilian.    ???
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: GonzoBass on October 12, 2012, 11:33:10 AM
the CD cover and booklet.
...who killed the album cover.
 :-\
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2012, 12:28:22 PM
True, but I got over that after two decades.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 12, 2012, 02:10:07 PM
... and you'll be whinging on about how good the good ole MP3 was in another twenty... :vader:
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2012, 03:23:29 PM
MPee3 is vile. Chopped up crap. CDs, at least initially, didn't sound so great in the highs, but have you ever tried detecting the bass drum on a sixties recording you first heard on CD on your old vinyl. CDs were never vile, just different acoustic strength. In the sub-bass department, nothing can beat a CD.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 12, 2012, 03:37:42 PM
DVD-A...?
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 12, 2012, 04:33:43 PM
Could beat it when they came out.

I don't like listening to 5.1 mixes of music, I'm a stereo guy. 5.1 sounds weird and hollow. I don't want Jim Morrison singing behind my back either and Robbie Krieger playing to my right in front or vice versa.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 12, 2012, 06:10:30 PM
...who killed the album cover.
 :-\


If you're my age, you remember when the LP killed the real album, which was six 78 rpm records in a bound album.

MPee3 is vile. Chopped up crap. CDs, at least initially, didn't sound so great in the highs, but have you ever tried detecting the bass drum on a sixties recording you first heard on CD on your old vinyl. CDs were never vile, just different acoustic strength. In the sub-bass department, nothing can beat a CD.

In blind listening tests, most people can't tell the difference between a 320 kbps CBR mp3 (or ca. 250 high VBR) and 1411 kbps WAV or CD music files.

You're hung up on albums as coherent collections, maybe that's one reason why you value CDs and their booklets. I couldn't care less; I like songs, not albums.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: TBird1958 on October 12, 2012, 09:14:52 PM


 I dunno.............I've had some pretty damm good sex with myself.  ;)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 13, 2012, 06:05:18 AM
If you're my age, you remember when the LP killed the real album, which was six 78 rpm records in a bound album.

In blind listening tests, most people can't tell the difference between a 320 kbps CBR mp3 (or ca. 250 high VBR) and 1411 kbps WAV or CD music files.

You're hung up on albums as coherent collections, maybe that's one reason why you value CDs and their booklets. I couldn't care less; I like songs, not albums.

That is to me like saying: "I like pages, not books."!!! A nice song is a nice song, but it is crowned by placement in a body of work. Hearing With a little help from my friends by itself ist not the same to hearing it in sequence on Sgt. Pepper.

And the fact that most people can't hear the dif between MPiss3 and CD quality, says a lot about how intensively people hear music and very little about the actual quality.

I've heard of a blindfold test where the winner was "CD with a little vinyl hiss artificially added".
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 13, 2012, 08:40:35 AM
That is to me like saying: "I like pages, not books."!!! A nice song is a nice song, but it is crowned by placement in a body of work. Hearing With a little help from my friends by itself ist not the same to hearing it in sequence on Sgt. Pepper.

Oh come on. The number of songs that can't be understood or appreciated outside of the context of an album is a drop in the ocean. Concept albums are a blip in the timeline of recorded music history.

And the fact that most people can't hear the dif between MPiss3 and CD quality, says a lot about how intensively people hear music and very little about the actual quality.

In a legitimate double blind ABX listening test, the whole idea is to listen intently and discern a difference in quality if you can. It's not about casual listening.

I've heard of a blindfold test where the winner was "CD with a little vinyl hiss artificially added".

A test where sound is artificially added to recorded music would be bogus, not to mention being a dead giveaway.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 13, 2012, 12:25:48 PM
In the perfect world I'd own the perfect sound system and enjoy listening to music in an acoustically pefect room, but as most of my listen pleasure is between calls I choose convenience and ease over bulk and clutter anyday... I just don't have the room...

(http://www.coconutheadphones.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/driving_directions_local_search_google_places.jpg)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: gearHed289 on October 13, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Could beat it when they came out.

I don't like listening to 5.1 mixes of music, I'm a stereo guy. 5.1 sounds weird and hollow. I don't want Jim Morrison singing behind my back either and Robbie Krieger playing to my right in front or vice versa.

I haven't listened to a lot of 5.1 music, but I do have Rush Snakes and Arrows in that format. Can't say I'm crazy about it. Different tom-toms all over the place and such. I'm a stereo guy too. If I'm watching any kind of music programming/DVD in my living room, I'm always set to left/right/sub only. It just sounds better. I suppose it could be cool for certain types of music - Pink Floyd, Depeche Mode, KMFDM.... I still have my turntable, stereo tube amp, and a pair of Advents in my basement.  ;D
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 14, 2012, 02:55:58 PM
All my gear got packed years back but its all still in the loft - an old Wharfdale Linton amp up there somewhere too - I have some lovely old Wharfedale speakers I've had since the 70's - stripped the cabs - repainted to match the lounge - all I got was "size matters" and all SWMBO wanted was something small and convenient - a Panasonic theatre system fits that bill - neat little speakers - nice clean sound...

I have that Rush DVD too but don't get the chance to turn it up loud enough to enjoy too frequently...

Dark Side is available in 5.1, as is Tubular Bells - Rush' Moving Pictures is available now too...
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Chris P. on October 15, 2012, 02:35:47 AM
The CD is partly a Dutch invention, so I have to be proud of it;)
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: nofi on October 15, 2012, 05:16:09 AM
wow, tubular bells. the short, single version got massive airplay when it came out. oldfield was also the first artist signed by a  very young richard branson to virgin records. or so npr tells me.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: gweimer on October 15, 2012, 05:43:07 AM
wow, tubular bells. the short, single version got massive airplay when it came out. oldfield was also the first artist signed by a  very young richard branson to virgin records. or so npr tells me.

I just saw a little piece where Branson lists Tubular Bells as his favorite album of all time.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Pilgrim on October 15, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
When driving across large deserted portions of the western US late at night, Tubular Bells was a rather disquieting album to play on the car stereo.  Made one unwilling to stop and pee.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 15, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
The CD is partly a Dutch invention, so I have to be proud of it;)

Now that you mention it, it does share typically Dutch traits: Unimpressive look and made on the cheap. Kind of like DAF cars.

 :-* :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 15, 2012, 11:46:57 AM
I just saw a little piece where Branson lists Tubular Bells as his favorite album of all time.

Not all of Tubular Bells has aged well, but many parts have. Oldfield was always sourfaced about the amount of mistakes on the original (some of which even people other than him can hear), so he recorded a new version sometime in the noughties (with John Cleese doing the voice). That new version wasn't horrible, but kind of unneccassary if you ask me, I tend to prefer the old one with all its limitations for the atmosphere. It was one of the first progressive (and instrumental to boot!) albums I really liked, it was something different at the time.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2012, 01:36:23 PM
Tubular Bells made Branson - and forever linked to The Exorcist for people of that era...
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: Dave W on October 15, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
The CD is partly a Dutch invention, so I have to be proud of it;)

Nothing wrong with it, I wasn't implying that. Doesn't change the market, though. Looks like its heyday has passed.

Now that you mention it, it does share typically Dutch traits: Unimpressive look and made on the cheap. Kind of like DAF cars.

 :-* :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Don't knock DAF. Any day now, air-cooled belt drive two-bangers will be making a comeback. On riding lawnmowers.
Title: Re: Pete Townshend's Studio, JAE content
Post by: uwe on October 16, 2012, 07:23:57 AM
DAF had their moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB3gPZGT0bg