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Gear Discussion Forums => Rickenbacker Basses => Topic started by: ilan on November 17, 2022, 02:07:06 AM
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Ben Hall posts a pic of a Monty 4005 and says they will be cheaper than the XC.
(http://bassoutpost.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12224.0;attach=4728;image)
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Surprising. Way beyond my price range, whatever the cost turns out to be.
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I just saw that this morning.
Ben’s been one for change. I expect everybody to complain about it.
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Great looking bass. I'd like to try one out. I haven't bought anything new from Rickenbacker in 30 years. That's unlikely to change.
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Great looking bass. I'd like to try one out. I haven't bought anything new from Rickenbacker in 30 years. That's unlikely to change.
The one I tried (1967) left me underwhelmed. I understand that Ric aficionados want their 4005 to be historically accurate but the bridge pickup on it is really useless.
The one in the pic is a beauty with Monty over flamed maple, it's nice to see them experimenting outside the FG/MG/JG box.
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Cue all those folk demanding a reissue on Talkbass to promptly not buy one...
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I came here to post this. I think it's a cool thing, no matter how limited the numbers end up being.
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At least one will get haphazardly drilled into a five string conversion...
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One if my favorite Ric body styles. Pretty!
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The original pickup positioning ... learning from design mistakes is overrated. :popcorn: A third pup smack-dab in the middle - there sure is enough room for it on this instrument! - might work wonders and keep those people happy who want the original pup positioning for treble and bass.
I have an early 80ies one I believe, shortly before they stopped making them. The sound of it is neither as great as legend might have it nor as bad as conventional wisdom seems to indicate. If you're fine with a bass that doesn't have the strongest cut-thru-mids, then you can get it to sound good, if somewhat scooped, with some tweaking. But it's not an automatic signature sound like, say, a 4001/4003.
Still, I'm happy to see it return to production, it has always looked great.
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I have an early 80ies one I believe, shortly before they stopped making them
But cell phone cameras are still being made ;)
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You want a pic? I'll have to take one then and see whether my photobucket account still works.
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why not just attach it?
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You're preaching colors to the blind, Ilan. I have no idea how that goes. We have a 24 hour IT Help Desk for stuff like that. Direct from iPhone (hell, I'm still missing my BlackBerry!) to this site without an intermediary storage? Since when? That never worked in the past.
And don't use any tekkie language explaining it! :mrgreen:
That bass escaped any pics in the past, but it's in excellent condition, Mapleglo. From The Netherlands with the Warwickhoer acting as agent. I hasten to add that I paid for it and no occupation administration measures were involved!
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You're preaching colors to the blind, Ilan. I have no idea how that goes. We have a 24 hour IT Help Desk for stuff like that. Direct from iPhone (hell, I'm still missing my BlackBerry!) to this site without an intermediary storage? Since when? That never worked in the past.
And don't use any tekkie language explaining it! :mrgreen:
That bass escaped any pics in the past, but it's in excellent condition, Mapleglo. From The Netherlands with the Warwickhoer acting as agent. I hasten to add that I paid for it and no occupation administration measures were involved!
When you reply to this post, look just below the posting area and you'll see Additional Options. Expand that and you'll see the Attach option. Upload your photo there.
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I'm not at the NAMM, but I heard the prototype is there.
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I'm not at the NAMM, but I heard the prototype is there.
Posted by a friend. Not sure of the source.
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That's a beauty!
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There’s also been some pics of a white 4002.
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I'm not at the NAMM, but I heard the prototype is there.
American woman are safe, for now!
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Posted by a friend. Not sure of the source.
I know that guy. He is also pictured (elsewhere) with the white 4002 RI (?).
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I totally dig the 4002 except for the bridge. Put a Schaller on there and I'll take out my wallet. :mrgreen: (I know it's not for sale) I don't know what those pickups are, but I'd go for two "hot" toasters.
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https://youtu.be/PSl6CyN0CnE
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May I ask something heretical? Why is it a cause for celebration if a bass doesn't feature a neck pup?
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May I ask something heretical? Why is it a cause for celebration if a bass doesn't feature a neck pup?
The 4002 does have a "neck" pickup in the middle position. Just like the 1992 and later Les Paul basses.
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May I ask something heretical? Why is it a cause for celebration if a bass doesn't feature a neck pup?
The 4002 does have a "neck" pickup in the middle position, just like all Jazz Basses do.
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May I ask something heretical? Why is it a cause for celebration if a bass doesn't feature a neck pup?
With the J pickup layout the neck (middle) pickup is more focused and the bridge pickup is more Jaco-esque. Many have waited for the 4002 to become a production model, not so much for the checkerboard binding, ebony boad, birdseye maple or low impedance output of the '77 model, just for the industry standard J layout. It wan't possible since 1985 when Rickenbacker has switched from the hairpin rods to compression rods requiring access from the body end for removal or service until recently when they've switched to single rods that don't require access routs at the body end. The Al Cisneros model also has a J/4002 pickup layout.
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The 4002 does have a "neck" pickup in the middle position. Just like the 1992 and later Les Paul basses.
But those lacked a true neck pup in my book too, I thought the pups too far back! :mrgreen: They changed that on the later worn satin, BFG and oversize LP models btw which I preferred for that reason.
Spare me with 'Jaco'esque' bridge pups, I hate that bony-skeletal sound. The worst thing about Jaco was his sound.
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Spare me with 'Jaco'esque' bridge pups, I hate that bony-skeletal sound. The worst thing about Jaco was his sound.
Probably why Ric used "Super Humbuckers" on the 4002 instead of their usual button-tops.
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But those lacked a true neck pup in my book too, I thought the pups too far back! :mrgreen: They changed that on the later worn satin, BFG and oversize LP models btw which I preferred for that reason.
Spare me with 'Jaco'esque' bridge pups, I hate that bony-skeletal sound. The worst thing about Jaco was his sound.
Bridge pups? We don't need no stink'n bridge pups.
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The 4000 just has the single bridge pickup , and sounds great. Two knob simplicity , the tone knob is thumpy at one end had has serious bite at the other.
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It's not really a BRIDGE pickup, it's about halfway between where a P and the rear J pickup would be.
As much as I love single pickup basses, and I really do, for me a Ric is not complete without the neck pickup. It's the Pictures Of Home sound, which for me is the epitome of Ric tone.
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As much as I love single pickup basses, and I really do, for me a Ric is not complete without the neck pickup. It's the Pictures Of Home sound, which for me is the epitome of Ric tone.
I know people love their 4000 basses, and rightfully so, but if I had to pick one, it would definitely be neck. Tom Petersson has a cool neck pickup only Ric.
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"As much as I love single pickup basses, and I really do, for me a Ric is not complete without the neck pickup. It's the Pictures Of Home sound, which for me is the epitome of Ric tone."
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d2/fd/ae/d2fdae7e7db314d465ea095d37b47f58.gif)
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I found that I was just fine with the single pickup , I was an old Pbass guy and was used to using my right hand to get tonal changes , rather than spinning a knob. It is strung with nicely broken in TI flats and does a nice warm thump.