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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Tyrellp34 on March 29, 2011, 04:10:40 AM
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Hello……. aeeh…again!
Seems like a lifetime since I logged on to this great forum. But after I getting a new house, new car, new girlfriend, new band and bla bla bla I am finally back in the “bass business” again. Yeah yeah I hear ya, about time!!
I would like to ask you T-bird freaks about a 1966 Thunderbird sold at Chicago Music Exchange a while back. I have searched the forum already, but can’t find any topic about this bass. (But I notice some strong opinions about CME ;) )
You can see a small pic of the bass on their recent sale page.
http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/pages/Recent-Sales.html
It’s a 1966 Non-Reverse. It’s been refinished. Bridge is replaced. Tuners replaced. Some breaks in the pickguard. I also suspect it’s been refretted, rewired and that the strap buttons has been replaced. Covers are missing.
OHSC included, fair condition but one lock is broken.
So, have you t-bird gurus seen this bass before, do you know anything about it? And what do you think is a reasonable price?
Cheers
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Way over priced imho. Over the winter there were two original finish unbroken Thundebird IIs on ebay that went for around 2k. Of course CME is renowned for their optimistic pricing. Vintage prices have taken a bit of a dive latley. I think fair pricing would be $1,200-$1,500 , I'd pay closer to 1,200 than 1,500.
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Hi GOT, thanks for your comment.
I have no idea what the seller paid CME for this bass. It seems like he expect to sell it for something close to $3500. Way overpriced in my opinion as well.
Since it’s now sold “locally” the shipping cost will be very low compared to overseas shipment and customs fees is not an issue, I was actually thinking about a bid close to $2000. Still, maybe too much...
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So let me get this straight. It is now available where you are (Europe?) 2k is more than I would pay but if you REALLY want it I don't think it's super over priced but it is on the high end. You also have to take into consideration availability, this one is already close to you so as you said shipping and customs isn't a issue.
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Oh, sorry! Yes it’ available in Europe, Norway to be precise :)
I must admit that when I first noticed this bass I did not like the colour at all, even if I think the gold Jack Casady epi looks gorgeous. I have been staring at the pictures quite a lot now I really start to like it. Not sure if the colour suits me though :) If I can’t live with it and since it’s already a refin it would not brake my heart to give it another colour.
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Here's a few pic of the actual bass
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Is it really a Gibson?
The edges of the body look kinda sharp to me. Shouldn't they be rounded off more?
The pickup looks non original too. The radius of the edge looks too sharp in that pic you posted.
The serial number is in a strange location.
The tail of the pickguard looks a little blunt in the pic.
Did someone pimp a BaCHbird?
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The pickup is correct IMO. 70's have a bigger radius edge, cheaper to do than the very sharp 60s edge.
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Is it really a Gibson?
The edges of the body look kinda sharp to me. Shouldn't they be rounded off more?
The pickup looks non original too. The radius of the edge looks too sharp in that pic you posted.
The serial number is in a strange location.
The tail of the pickguard looks a little blunt in the pic.
Did someone pimp a BaCHbird?
My '69 has a very sharp radius on the body edge, nothing like my '67. This gold one does seem to have a sharp radius......................it is cause for concern but it could be legit. The pg looks trimmed down, the tail is to short. I am thinking the tip broke off, very common the screw is right at the end and the hole goes very close to the edge of the guard. I bet it was trimmed when the bass was refinished. No cover hole or a hole where the tail of the pg would be.
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Thanks for all the great comments.
Did someone pimp a BaCHbird?
Headstock front and body back side. Guess the back side pics confirms that it’s not a Bachbird pimp? (Or someone has put a lot of effort to the back cover).
The tail of the pickguard looks a little blunt in the pic.
My '69 has a very sharp radius on the body edge, nothing like my '67. This gold one does seem to have a sharp radius......................it is cause for concern but it could be legit. The pg looks trimmed down, the tail is to short. I am thinking the tip broke off, very common the screw is right at the end and the hole goes very close to the edge of the guard. I bet it was trimmed when the bass was refinished. No cover hole or a hole where the tail of the pg would be.
Guess you are right, seems like the pg has been trimmed and the hole filled. Guess also the original tuner screw holes where filled before the refin.
Other comments/opinions on the serial number location?
Yeah and by the way, pots date are -65 and -66
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My '69(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/69TBnewtailpiece001.jpg) and '67(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/67thunderbird004.jpg)
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I soooo remember you proudly showing that mojo babe off, you lucky fella... 8)
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What's with the reversed Badbird on the '69?
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The studs were moved forward on the '69 bass, the holes have been filled and false grained. Good eye Carlo! The '67 as I got her :rolleyes: she is doing much better now :) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/67thunderbird.jpg)
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Nice!
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I'm torn as to what to do with the '67. She started out as a II and someone hacked in the Bill Lawrence pup. Right now the bass goes to every gig I would hate to take it out of the line up for a full restoration and the way things are going a original finish tobacco sunburst is in danger of becoming a rarity. I know I could route her for another Tbird pup but I like IIs and I'll just be removing more material from the bass and as a preservationist that just rubs me the wrong way. Anyway it is a great sounding and playing bass.
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I considered buying that Gold NR from CME before I bought my 65' sunburst Thunderbird II from Olivia's. They told me: The original colour was gold Mist Poly, the original owner refinned it because it was checking. Non original tuners and bridge. And of course what Scott said about the guard. I couldn't justify $3300.00 for it so I backed out. i didn't even bother to go see it becuase kevin Borden told me about My '65 II at Olivia's and I was sold on that!!!!
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I can't see the pics that you posted of the gold bird but for some reason I can see the pics of the tobacco burst bass. What gives?
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My '69(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/69TBnewtailpiece001.jpg) and '67(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godofthunder59/67thunderbird004.jpg)
Damn. Pictures like this aren’t helping my NR GAS!! :)
Sent my bid to the seller just now, let’s wait and see if he likes it or not.....
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I can't see the pics that you posted of the gold bird but for some reason I can see the pics of the tobacco burst bass. What gives?
That’s strange. I guess the difference is that I attached the pictures to my post while GOT inserted a link to his pictures.
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As expected, the seller did not accept my bid. I am willing to increase but seems like he’s not interested. He’s very resolute and will not sell for anything less then $3500, guess I have to find some place else to put my money…… otherwise I might get stuck with them.