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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 12:20:47 PM »
ZZ Top were road heroes long before they became a household name and an MTV icon with Eliminator. Even in the 70ies there were (mainly Southern and Midwest) States where their gigs outsold, say, someone like Aerosmith. Some of their songs like La Grange were already then FM staples, Tush was a Top Twenty hit in the US. Billy Gibbons was a musicians’ guitarist of sorts, his sparse style with quirky tones/notes was appreciated by many as both rootsy and original.

In Germany they broke around Degüello (their first album after changing from London Records to Warner Bros. whose marketing and distribution clout gave them an international boost) with one single TV live appearance broadcast Europe-wide in 1980 (they had never played in Germany or Europe for that matter before, but had this reputation as a great live act from their circuit in the States).



No sequencers, electronic drums, extra guitar tracks or scantily dressed women back then. Just real drums, two guys swapping lead vocals, one guitar and a Telecaster bass with a broken pup that distorted. I don’t think they ever bettered that. I was aghast when I first heard Eliminator and what they had done to the three-piece. Frank Beard had always defied convention as a drummer and there they go and largely replace him with a drum machine programmed to the most mundane factory settings.
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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: CURRENT CATALDO
« Last post by Pilgrim on May 05, 2024, 11:43:10 AM »
I like it!
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Pilgrim on May 05, 2024, 11:41:48 AM »
I like ZZ TOp, including most of their newer stuff. They simply are what they are, and have been for years.
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Bill's Shop: Projects, Mods & Repairs / Re: CURRENT CATALDO
« Last post by dadagoboi on May 05, 2024, 11:00:16 AM »
'Cayuse' (Little Horse) Prototype

30" Scale, Split Coil, Series/Parallel option.


PAF DiMarzio and SX Bridge/tuners from the parts bin.
Probably go with a push pull pot instead of a switch for series/parallel. That's a modded Jazz control plate. P/G is cut from a self stick vinyl floor tile
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Alanko on May 05, 2024, 10:39:36 AM »
He has a whole army of canned rhythm guitar tracks behind him when they play the 80ies hits and the background vocals don't sound real either, let's not even talk about the sequencers, but does he lip sync too? It wouldn't surprise me. ZZ Top's legacy as a great live band goes back to the 70ies and early 80ies, ever since then they have become more and more "augmented" live.

I'm not really up to speed on ZZ Top chronology, but it seems like they were an amazingly tight bar band who got nowhere, then jumped the shark and added a lot of schtick, stage wizardry and sequencers? All the weird and mysterious custom guitars, complex back line stuff, mythology of Billy using five random unknown amps to track parts, etc. A larger than life band! Billy lip synching is disappointing as he is hardly a singer with a high range needing much breath control. Just grunt out the lyrics.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 09:19:13 AM »
He has a whole army of canned rhythm guitar tracks behind him when they play the 80ies hits and the background vocals don't sound real either, let's not even talk about the sequencers, but does he lip sync too? It wouldn't surprise me. ZZ Top's legacy as a great live band goes back to the 70ies and early 80ies, ever since then they have become more and more "augmented" live.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: Sam Ash on the decline
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 06:47:54 AM »
Yeah, the Hendon Museum is great, been there twice. Motörhead of course immortalized the Heinkel 111 look (with some artistic freedom like B-17 style lower gun turrets or exterior bombs which the He 111 did generally not have).



Crews liked it as it was generally perceived as a warhorse that brought you home no matter what and didn’t act up like the (performance-wise mostly superior) Ju 88 or the (visually more elegant) Do 17.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by Dave W on May 05, 2024, 06:47:34 AM »
I watched another video recently of a guy calling out lip synching, and they are all at it! Bon Jovi, Kiss, Roger Waters... worst example is Frankie Valli as he is using old studio tapes but appears to be barely lucid, so he is barely gumming the words while a young and sprightly Frankie comes out the PA.

Add Billy F. Gibbons to that group.
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The Outpost Cafe / Re: You can’t hiii-iiide your lyin’ tracks …
« Last post by uwe on May 05, 2024, 06:29:13 AM »
You know, when Britney Spears or Madonna do it - they’re dance acts. If Paul Stanley does it - KISS are putting on an amusement park type show. But if Don Henley does it - what the hell does he have to do on stage other than sing? And if Desperado is too high for him by now, then change the f***ing key and sing it lower.
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The Bass Zone / Re: Great secrets of rock revealed!
« Last post by Basvarken on May 05, 2024, 04:14:44 AM »
Klaus Voormann on the Vox Vootar
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