Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - Alanko

Pages: 1 ... 107 108 [109] 110 111 112
1621
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 10, 2015, 03:19:30 AM »
I find the TSR2 endlessly fascinating. A certain tranche of the UK aviation scene like to suggest that the TSR2 was a faultless feat of engineering marvel killed off by greedy politicians, bumbling civil servants, meddling Royals and Johnny Foreigner. I think the truth is probably a bit more complex than that, not helped by the fact that the aircraft was right on the bleeding edge of technology for the time, and that every aspect of the design was innovative in one way or another. I would compare it to the APT trains we briefly developed; lots of innovation and design overkill but generally not well understood by the guys that had to work on them and hard to justify financially. The fact that the F111 was late rubs salt into the wounds, yes, but the decision made sense to go with it, for me. I think people try and simplify it into a 'death of British aviation' narrative, which it almost certainly wasn't. I think the failed attempt to upgrade the Nimrods to the MRA4 platform could work as a similar allegory.

Where TSR2 gets messy, and interesting, for me is when you try and figure out what happened to XR219; the only TSR2 to ever fly. The jigs for TSR2, along with various airframe components and models were very publically, and petulantly, scrapped. The official line for years after was that none of the TSR2s remained, yet a fairly complete airframe appeared out of Cranwell a while later, a less-complete airframe surfaced as well as a procedures trainer, which is now at Newark. Some jigs are, I think, at Brooklands as well though left in the long grass(!). Various other TSR2 parts have appeared over the years from the back of stores and teaching facilities and I recently saw the radar from one at East Fortune airfield here in Scotland. XR219 was, again, publically and theatrically dragged off to the weapons testing facility at Foulness and blown to bits. However, the main fuselage from about the engines forward was removed some time towards the end of the '70s, and supposedly scrapped. It seems to be an open secret, or wild conspiracy theory, that it was in fact saved from the scrappies. I have a couple of names on record as to who might be responsible for this intervention, though it is likely that it didn't happen at all. In reality if it did survive you would be left with a gutted, fragmented cockpit section minus any avionics. However it is a remnant of the only TSR2 to fly, so it would be nice to see it some day if it exists! TSR2 sections remained on Foulness until the early '90s, yet there was clearly a culture of denial even then.

If anybody wants more details then drop me a PM...

1622
Fender Basses / Fender Slabs, and what made them tick.
« on: August 08, 2015, 10:24:02 AM »
When I was still on Talkbass, *sniff sniff*, I spoke to John Kallas a couple of times about the 1966 Slab Precisions. He was of the opinion that there was absolutely nothing special about them in terms of circuitry. This flies in the face of John Entwistle's claims, but makes a lot of sense. the Slab I've seen gut shots of has a black fiber bobbin and a grey fiber bobbin on the underside of each pickup half, so clearly they were thrown together from existing parts. I've seen the maple cap on the neck cited as a contributing factor as well, but again I find that hard to believe.

My personal stance is that the players, the strings and the amps changed just as the Slabs appeared. The two major players were Ace Kefford and John Entwistle, and both used Rotosound rounds and cranked the treble. Could they have simply done the exact same thing with stock Precisions with the body contours? I initially hypothesized that Fender, struck with the challenge of making a 'Telecaster bass', used 1 M pots off the Jazzmaster production line to get more top end out of the pickups, but apparently this isn't the case either. Rather, Kefford and Entwistle were making new sonic territory by gunning the treble on tube amps with limited headroom, and the Slabs just happened to be the bass driving this ensemble. Both players were given a wider degree of musical freedom in their respective bands as well. It all comes together nicely...

To bolster my theory, take The Who's gig from the Isle of Wight, 1970. I've seen this cited as an example of how a stock Precision just lacked the bite and grind inherent in the Slab circuitry. Yet, we know that John was running a simple bi-amp setup. I wager that they only mic'd up the 'bass' half of his rig. There are times when Roger Daltrey stands close to John's rig and you can hear the more typical Leeds tone bleeding into the vocal mics, which again backs up my argument. I would need to find an audience bootleg of that gig to reinforce my view, but I wager that any P bass with John's low action and zero relief setup would get the same tone through that rig. The idea of overwound pickups and 'inherent distortion' is a myth!

I don't see Fender winding hotter pickups for a small run of corner-cut designed basses for the limey market. It doesn't make sense to reward us with such a bespoke product if it involves holding up the production line.

All of this is just my opinion, and I would like to hear what everyone else makes of the Slabs.

1623
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 08, 2015, 10:10:24 AM »
.  And apparently there are no fans of Japanese planes here?

They seem too utilitarian to love. They look bulky, they tend to have paint missing everywhere and they outperformed a whole bunch of Allied aircraft. What is there to love? British designs, like our cars, tended to be either graceful or pig ugly, and at least half of them had some fatal design flaw or handling characteristic that gave them further character.

What can you say about a Zero? It was scary fast and looked a bit like a Harvard.  :bored:

All said with half a tongue in half a cheek...

1624
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 07, 2015, 01:37:24 PM »
On the earliest example both cockpits were 'live', but on later models the port cockpit was retained whilst the starboard cockpit was used by the radar operator.  ???

http://xp-82twinmustangproject.blogspot.co.uk/

Anyway, to keep on topic (lol), In Cornick We Trust! I wonder where he got that three-ply black pickguard from?


1625
The Bass Zone / Re: Uwe's dream bass
« on: August 07, 2015, 12:27:18 PM »

 Back in the days of The Dudepit someone posted a shot of a Thunderbird painted in WWI lozenge camo (it may have been Glen Cornick's), I'd think that would work  ;)

Roger Waters had the Panzer camouflage bass...




1626
I would rather not route.   :-\

My latest wheeze is to put PJ pickups in my Jazz bass. I had a custom pickguard made up, but routing into Fender wood gave me the absolute fear.

The Jazz bass is probably worthy of this forum as I've stuck a lefty neck on it, ala Glenn Cornick.

1627
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 07, 2015, 11:25:45 AM »

 Somebody's Sea Vixen model needs help - Crappy decal job! Only the English could put the canopy off to one side!  :rolleyes:

It must have made sense on the carriers, or something, though some English Electric Canberras had the same thing.



That's the Martin B-57, to you yankees.  :mrgreen:

Speaking of US aircraft, I see another twin Mustang is being restored, presumably also taken from the Soplata collection. Shame they crashed the first one.





1628
The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 07, 2015, 07:40:53 AM »
I only know it was Ted because he's singing it on the Old Grey Whistle Test video. That 21 fret Rick is a thing of beauty.

1629
The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 07, 2015, 06:43:41 AM »
Credit where it's due, their voices all blend together really well even on the live recordings I've heard.

1630
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 07, 2015, 05:17:41 AM »
Stevie Wonder?  8)

I think the Charm of the Mosquito is those two massive props on the end of two massive nacelles. It looks like a bare-knuckle fighter with massive biceps or something. For a nicer cockpit.... how about the long-nose Bristol Blenheim/Fairchild Bolingbroke?



And for ugly...


1631
The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 07, 2015, 05:07:48 AM »
The section of Blowing Free 'In my dreams everything was all right/In your schemes you can only try' sounds like it could be a bit of Suite Judy Blue Eyes and Turner's frenetic bass licks in Sometime World remind me a lot of Hillman's lines on So You Wanna Be a Rock and Roll Star of the Byrds. Coincidence? I think there is a CSNY feel that crept in to both Pink Floyd and early Yes at different times as well, so I wouldn't rule it out!

1632
Well the Tokai is purchased, so watch this space. The first step will be to probably put a chrome bridge and tuners on it and see where I end up. The pickups appear to be narrower soapbar types, which raises a question for me.

When you have chrome '60s Thunderbird pickups, do they sit on the surface, given that they look about as thick as a modern cell phone, or do they sit in routes? Would I need to route out the pickup cavities wider, or just have the pickups sitting in their cavities with a wider pickup cover straddling the route, like a Mudbucker?

1633
The Outpost Cafe / Re: Bass on Argus.
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:52:12 AM »
I would say that there just isn't enough of anything on the 2002 mix. The drums are a bit underwhelming, being mono on most (all?) of the tracks and sitting dead centre in the mix. They don't meld with the bass at all. Some of the guitar tones are pretty ratty as well. I guess the mix just isn't very unified for my tastes.

Vaguely related, I purchased a Tokai Thunderbird last night as it was on sale. I purchased it online, and it is hopefully making its way to my inlaws' house. I went for a cream one, ala Martin Turner, Overend Watts... everybody has a black or sunburst T-bird, right?  8)

1634
sorry to be a heathen, but there are a bunch of Jazz bass clones that would probably sound as good...am I missing something?

I tend to agree. I would save up and get a builder to make me a tasty Jazz with all the good aspects of the refin. I would keep the TBII.

1635
Gibson Basses / Re: Thunderbird shootout.
« on: August 07, 2015, 02:38:44 AM »
Its a De Havilland Mosquito, a Merlin-powered plywood wonder.  :mrgreen:

It seems like De Havilland really liked wood, as they build the cockpit pods of the Vampire jets out of wood as well. Poorly maintained examples tend to delaminate over time.  :rolleyes: This seems very much like classic British engineering, a good mix of stylish design and 'what the **** were they thinking'?

De Havilland also made the Sea Vixen, which has to be their most brutalist design as it looks, to me, like part flatfish and part spacecraft.



Back to T-birds, I saw a link to a 7-string Chinese monstrosity today;

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=171881266163&globalID=EBAY-US


Pages: 1 ... 107 108 [109] 110 111 112