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I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« on: September 23, 2008, 02:44:04 PM »
So I had my Thunderbird set up with TI Jazz Rounds (real thin gauge) for B-E-A-D tuning and it is amazing!

I don't think I could pull it off at a jazz or country gig, but the church gig and its new Christian rock stuff its great!  Using a pick too, and I"m having a blast.  Most of the church stuff is just like being in a U2 Tribute band anyway, so this tuning seems to work on the fly.

At this point, the TBird seems like it was always made for the B string.  I'm not having floppy issues, guage is thin enough so it sits in the nut.  Maybe I'm at the end of the GAS road finally!

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 03:43:15 PM »

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2008, 07:13:00 PM »
Its like the one in my Avatar that I sold Mark.  Buyer's remorse led me to purchase an identical-looking one, but the original was a blem with offset pickups.  (Remember you warned me not to get rid of it).  This one is better all-around....but no pics yet!  I'll get around to it. 

*Still waiting for the Fenderbird from Mike.  Looks like next month.*   

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2008, 07:14:11 PM »
*Off-topic Mark - but you're almost at 666 posts.  Let us know which thread gets the Evil post! *

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2008, 07:23:09 PM »
Cool idea! I assume the strings aren't causing any problems with the neck.  I've thought about trying that too.
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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2008, 04:47:16 AM »
So I had my Thunderbird set up with TI Jazz Rounds (real thin gauge) for B-E-A-D tuning and it is amazing!

I don't think I could pull it off at a jazz or country gig, but the church gig and its new Christian rock stuff its great!  Using a pick too, and I"m having a blast.  Most of the church stuff is just like being in a U2 Tribute band anyway, so this tuning seems to work on the fly.

At this point, the TBird seems like it was always made for the B string.  I'm not having floppy issues, guage is thin enough so it sits in the nut.  Maybe I'm at the end of the GAS road finally!

 ;)

Which strings are they???  My bandmates miss the range my SR5 had, and this might be just the thing...especially since I like to be down a whole step, then drop the now D to a C...

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2008, 05:16:01 AM »
Which strings are they???  My bandmates miss the range my SR5 had, and this might be just the thing...especially since I like to be down a whole step, then drop the now D to a C...

They're the Thomastik-Infeld Jazz Nickel Roundwound JR345's:



The B string is only .118 (E=.089, A= .068, D = .051) so they're thinner I'm used to, but they work great on the TB's neck imo. 

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2008, 08:05:40 AM »
Keep in mind that even with a larger gauge, a B will usually have lower tension than the G it's replacing in a BEAD setup. For example, using D'addario's tension figures for a 45-130 XL nickel wound long scale set, the 130 B has 34.5 lbs. tension, while the 045 G has 42.8 lbs. tension. And in the 40-125 set, the 125 B  is 31.4 lbs., the 040 G is 33.7 lbs.

So going BEAD isn't likely to put more tension on the neck. In some cases you may have to loosen the truss rod.

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2008, 10:36:25 AM »
Thanks Dave - it does feel lower in tension.  But I'm not sure I follow you on the "B replacing the G" - I've got the B replacing the E.   Maybe I misunderstand - I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to set-up anyway!   ???

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 12:29:12 PM »
I just meant that you're removing the G on the upper end and adding a B on the lower end. Your E A and D tension is unchanged, the B will probably be lower in tension that the G you no longer have.

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Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 01:16:24 PM »
OK I get it!   ;D

Yes, the tension is low enough on that B where you can't really slap or pop (which I don't do anyway) without getting some floppiness.  But playing with the pick seems to level that issue...