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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: PWV on September 23, 2008, 02:44:04 PM

Title: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 23, 2008, 02:44:04 PM
So I had my Thunderbird set up with TI Jazz Rounds (real thin gauge) for B-E-A-D tuning and it is amazing!

I don't think I could pull it off at a jazz or country gig, but the church gig and its new Christian rock stuff its great!  Using a pick too, and I"m having a blast.  Most of the church stuff is just like being in a U2 Tribute band anyway, so this tuning seems to work on the fly.

At this point, the TBird seems like it was always made for the B string.  I'm not having floppy issues, guage is thin enough so it sits in the nut.  Maybe I'm at the end of the GAS road finally!

 ;)
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: TBird1958 on September 23, 2008, 03:43:15 PM

 Dave.......

Which 'Bird?   Pics?  ;)
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 23, 2008, 07:13:00 PM
Its like the one in my Avatar that I sold Mark.  Buyer's remorse led me to purchase an identical-looking one, but the original was a blem with offset pickups.  (Remember you warned me not to get rid of it).  This one is better all-around....but no pics yet!  I'll get around to it. 

*Still waiting for the Fenderbird from Mike.  Looks like next month.*   
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 23, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
*Off-topic Mark - but you're almost at 666 posts.  Let us know which thread gets the Evil post! *
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: drbassman on September 23, 2008, 07:23:09 PM
Cool idea! I assume the strings aren't causing any problems with the neck.  I've thought about trying that too.
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: Blackbird on September 24, 2008, 04:47:16 AM
So I had my Thunderbird set up with TI Jazz Rounds (real thin gauge) for B-E-A-D tuning and it is amazing!

I don't think I could pull it off at a jazz or country gig, but the church gig and its new Christian rock stuff its great!  Using a pick too, and I"m having a blast.  Most of the church stuff is just like being in a U2 Tribute band anyway, so this tuning seems to work on the fly.

At this point, the TBird seems like it was always made for the B string.  I'm not having floppy issues, guage is thin enough so it sits in the nut.  Maybe I'm at the end of the GAS road finally!

 ;)

Which strings are they???  My bandmates miss the range my SR5 had, and this might be just the thing...especially since I like to be down a whole step, then drop the now D to a C...
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 24, 2008, 05:16:01 AM
Which strings are they???  My bandmates miss the range my SR5 had, and this might be just the thing...especially since I like to be down a whole step, then drop the now D to a C...

They're the Thomastik-Infeld Jazz Nickel Roundwound JR345's:

(http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/juststrings_2017_62138272)

The B string is only .118 (E=.089, A= .068, D = .051) so they're thinner I'm used to, but they work great on the TB's neck imo. 
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: Dave W on September 24, 2008, 08:05:40 AM
Keep in mind that even with a larger gauge, a B will usually have lower tension than the G it's replacing in a BEAD setup. For example, using D'addario's tension figures for a 45-130 XL nickel wound long scale set, the 130 B has 34.5 lbs. tension, while the 045 G has 42.8 lbs. tension. And in the 40-125 set, the 125 B  is 31.4 lbs., the 040 G is 33.7 lbs.

So going BEAD isn't likely to put more tension on the neck. In some cases you may have to loosen the truss rod.
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 24, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
Thanks Dave - it does feel lower in tension.  But I'm not sure I follow you on the "B replacing the G" - I've got the B replacing the E.   Maybe I misunderstand - I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to set-up anyway!   ???
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: Dave W on September 24, 2008, 12:29:12 PM
I just meant that you're removing the G on the upper end and adding a B on the lower end. Your E A and D tension is unchanged, the B will probably be lower in tension that the G you no longer have.
Title: Re: I'm a gonna stay BEAD on the TB!
Post by: PWV on September 24, 2008, 01:16:24 PM
OK I get it!   ;D

Yes, the tension is low enough on that B where you can't really slap or pop (which I don't do anyway) without getting some floppiness.  But playing with the pick seems to level that issue...