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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: Basvarken on February 24, 2024, 06:03:12 AM

Title: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: Basvarken on February 24, 2024, 06:03:12 AM: Did y'all see this before?

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Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: Alanko on February 24, 2024, 06:22:20 AM: I wish Gibson had shipped that behemoth to Jimmy Page.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: Grog on February 24, 2024, 08:00:20 AM: Wow! $50,000 with a non functioning FuzzTone circuit! I was at Carter Vintage a few years back, a very nice store. Gruhn’s & Carter’s are only about a block apart.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: ilan on February 27, 2024, 08:25:00 AM: I was going to be sarcastic and say that the fuzztone unit was put there just as a counterweight, but then I looked at the specs — 11.6lbs.! Very light for a 4/6 double neck. I have a '79 P that's heavier.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2024, 08:42:12 AM: "Wow! $50,000 with a non functioning FuzzTone circuit!"

Those things are hell to repair, really tricky and you don't get the electronic parts anymore.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: Alanko on February 27, 2024, 11:50:02 AM: Quote from: uwe on February 27, 2024, 08:42:12 AM
"Wow! $50,000 with a non functioning FuzzTone circuit!"

Those things are hell to repair, really tricky and you don't get the electronic parts anymore.

Damn. I assumed it would be six components and a battery. Presumably some obsolete transistors are involved?
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: D.M.N. on February 27, 2024, 12:17:59 PM: Quote from: Alanko on February 27, 2024, 11:50:02 AM
Damn. I assumed it would be six components and a battery. Presumably some obsolete transistors are involved?

It is a simple circuit, less than 20 components including the pots, values and transistor types varying by version (FZ-1, FZ-1A, etc, FZ-1S being quite different). The original transistor type can still be bought, though they are obsolete, and newer ones might not sound quite like the old ones, but you can still build the circuit very cheaply and use other transistors with similar specs. That said, having not seen the layout inside the control cavity, no idea how easy or difficult it would be to work on the original circuit.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: uwe on February 27, 2024, 05:01:58 PM: There is also continuous drain on the battery, so even if you don't use the fuzz, the batteries give up after a few months. Very steampunk.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: D.M.N. on February 27, 2024, 05:49:42 PM: Quote from: uwe on February 27, 2024, 05:01:58 PM
There is also continuous drain on the battery, so even if you don't use the fuzz, the batteries give up after a few months. Very steampunk.

True! I suppose you could rig up a battery disconnect using a stereo jack on the instrument or potentiometer with an off click. And it takes AA! So that's fun and goofy.
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: Grog on February 28, 2024, 07:56:43 AM: No matter how well the circuit works, it still sounds like an “Electric Fart”! It would be nice if you could use the FuzzTone on both the bass & the guitar………
Title: Re: 1966 EBSF-1250 Double neck with Fuzz
Post by: uwe on February 28, 2024, 09:34:58 AM: It's very limited in usage, a novelty effect more for recording than for playing live.