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Gear Discussion Forums => Gibson Basses => Topic started by: rockinrayduke on March 27, 2008, 11:42:30 AM
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I figure this is probably pointless to ask but I thought I'd try anyway. Anyone got a beater EB3 that they'd trade for a recent ('05) T-Bird?
Thought I'd ask.
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Hmmmmm......You don't really want to do that! Does Fraulein Rommel have to fly to Texas to make you see the error of your thoughts? ;)
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Pictures at eleven. ;D
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Does Fraulein Rommel have to fly to Texas to make you see the error of your thoughts
Well, maybe..... ;D Bring the whip. ;)
Of the 2 Birds I have, the ObG is my favorite, probably because of the old school vibe.
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"Well, maybe..... Bring the whip."
Zere vill be discipline..... und you vill like it!
Cat o' 9 tails?.....Riding Crop?
On a serious note we can convert your 05' into a Chromey delight with very little work........a minor operation as they say.. ;)
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"Well, maybe..... Bring the whip."
Zere vill be discipline..... und you vill like it!
Cat o' 9 tails?.....Riding Crop?
On a serious note we can convert your 05' into a Chromey delight with very little work........a minor operation as they say.. ;)
I might pay to see this..................on second thought, no.............unless rockinrayduke looks like Patty Duke circa early '60s ? forgive the way my mind works.............................
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I've met Ray and there's no chance he'll ever be mistaken for Patty. Or Cathy. :D
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Hey, I just want to trade a Bird for an EB3. You guys are turning this thread into something tawdry and perverted!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Ummm, errr......................yea............... :D
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Hey, I just want to trade a Bird for an EB3. You guys are turning this thread into something tawdry and perverted!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Your point being.......what? :D
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Someone's gonna mention anal sex soon and it will be all over ...
Ray, Fräulein Rommel's disciplinary measures have never been more called for. Even a modern TBird is inherently a more valuable bass than an EB-3 as far as components, structure and versatility go.
I see the mudbug (mudbuck?) has bitten you, and that's fine, but there are other ways to quench your desire:
- Wait for the next Epi EB-3 Elitist on ebay. These are fine basses and awfully close to the original Gibson model. Closer than an SG RI though that is a fine bass in its own right (have you played one yet?).
- Buy a seventies maple neck EB-0 (and add an extra pup, almost any pup will be better than the original minibucker) or EB-3. It can be a total beater, these basses are much more sturdy than the sixties EBs and also feel a lot more substantial compared to the guitarish sixties EBs. The maple neck and middle pup position make them also more versatile, but I assure there is still plenty of El Mudo. They also sell a lot cheaper than the sixties stuff. This is for example my best-sounding EB-3/modded EB-0 (with maybe the exception of the clown fin EB-0L mentioned below) and I have quite a bunch from all eras:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_0019.jpg)
- And if you are a brave man and want to lead the pack then you should do what one of us should have had the guts to do a long time ago: Install a sixties mudbucker right behind the neck of your 05 TBird and have the two vol and the one tone control changed to vol controls for each of the then three pups, you won't miss the tone control I assure you as dialing in the mudbucker will cut all the treble you could ever want. Basically, your Bird would then be a mirror image of my EB-0L "+ 2" which sounds wonderfully gutsy, yet focused in any combination of the pups:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/uwehornung/DCP_2339.jpg)
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Pictures at eleven. ;D
Does that have a special meaning in English? I just know it as a Robert Plant solo album title, never gave it a thought to its meaning, but now you haff zis non-native speäker wondering ...
Please elucidate!
Uwe
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Years ago, in advertising the nighttime news, you'd often hear the teaser, "film at eleven" (the time the news comes on in most major U.S. metropolitan areas). I'd imagine it's a reference to that. In the early days of TV news, it was a big deal to have something shot in the field, processed, and cut in time for the news broadcast. Having 'film at 11' gave the network that had it an advantage over others reporting the same story sans pictures.
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Ah, danke, Gweimer was getting his hopes up high then.
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"Ray, Fräulein Rommel's disciplinary measures have never been more called for. Even a modern TBird is inherently a more valuable bass than an EB-3 as far as components, structure and versatility go."
Thank you Herr Moderator! See, tawdry (I love that word!) and perverse can sometimes lead to an educational experience too......... ;)
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As the proud owner of 5 T-Birds, I don't recommend getting rid of one. The Epi EB-3 Elitist is a great option as suggested and pretty affordable. I've been thinking about snagging one to refinish in white or sonic blue.
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I hate getting rid of any bass, but I think it's easier when you have some overlap in sound - like Ray's Orville and late-model Gibson Tbirds probably have. If I ever have to dump something, it will be the basses that cover a wider range of tones - like the Magnum and AEB-1. While the bases themselves are special to me, their sound honestly isn't - not as much as some, anyway. I could get those sounds on other basses (or close enough, anyway).
I love my 68/69 EB-3 for live playing. I use it a lot in a classic rock outfit, and it gets that nice dirty, punchy Andy-Fraser-ish tone on varitone position-3 thru the Orange+SVT stack. Position-1 works great too, but I have to EQ it, notching out the sub-lows to really be effective (at least with my 10" SVT drivers), or distort the heck out of it - which can be quite a breathtaking experience. The EB-0 (same year) works pretty good live for that matter, but I tend to like having the bridge pickup (on these basses) in live settings. Just my taste - adds a bit more bite. I think the EB-0 might be my favorite home recording bass, though. I just love the deep, rich tone that it gets.
Honestly - I don't think you could go wrong trying an old EB-3 on. The late model bird is easy to replace, and the old EB-3 would be easy to sell if things don't gel. With basses, I kind of like changing it up - going from long to short to mid to Ric scale. They're all fun in their own ways, and inspire different types of playing. Keeps me entertained. ;D
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I hate getting rid of any bass, but I think it's easier when you have some overlap in sound - like Ray's Orville and late-model Gibson Tbirds probably have. If I ever have to dump something, it will be the basses that cover a wider range of tones - like the Magnum and AEB-1. While the bases themselves are special to me, their sound honestly isn't - not as much as some, anyway. I could get those sounds on other basses (or close enough, anyway).
I love my 68/69 EB-3 for live playing. I use it a lot in a classic rock outfit, and it gets that nice dirty, punchy Andy-Fraser-ish tone on varitone position-3 thru the Orange+SVT stack. Position-1 works great too, but I have to EQ it, notching out the sub-lows to really be effective (at least with my 10" SVT drivers), or distort the heck out of it - which can be quite a breathtaking experience. The EB-0 (same year) works pretty good live for that matter, but I tend to like having the bridge pickup (on these basses) in live settings. Just my taste - adds a bit more bite. I think the EB-0 might be my favorite home recording bass, though. I just love the deep, rich tone that it gets.
Honestly - I don't think you could go wrong trying an old EB-3 on. The late model bird is easy to replace, and the old EB-3 would be easy to sell if things don't gel. With basses, I kind of like changing it up - going from long to short to mid to Ric scale. They're all fun in their own ways, and inspire different types of playing. Keeps me entertained. ;D
Well, you are certainly right. I just have this incurable love to TBs of any kind. You are so right about the "replacement" of a modern TB. It's easy enough.
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"Well, you are certainly right. I just have this incurable love to TBs of any kind. You are so right about the "replacement" of a modern TB. It's easy enough'
I'd generally agree with this however, I seem to recall several of you looking for white 'Birds which are now out of production........My '89 is finally a collectable piece! (hah!)
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"Well, you are certainly right. I just have this incurable love to TBs of any kind. You are so right about the "replacement" of a modern TB. It's easy enough'
I'd generally agree with this however, I seem to recall several of you looking for white 'Birds which are now out of production........My '89 is finally a collectable piece! (hah!)
Ah, yes, white. Didn't think of that. I'm glad I have mine already!
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Mr.Hornung and Ms. Rommel have made a convincing argument. I'm keeping the Bird and I'll just get along with my Epi.
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Ray,
Just buy more basses......you know you want to :D
I really have to be a bad influence, if only to help relive my very bad G.A.S. for one of those Orange Expbirds.......I wantee SO bad!
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Went to GC after work, picked up some new strings for the Bird plus a new G-K 1001RB. Just played it for 2 hours straight through the new amp. Thanks for talking me down from the ledge!
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GK 1001 = BIG THUMBS UP! I love mine! that and 2 4x10 SBX's, best rig ever! ;D
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Hey Ray, I didn't say keep the 05 Bird and don't buy something new, I said don't trade the 05 TB AND buy something new!!! Just like Gordon Gekko in Wall Street said: "Gas is good."
Uwe
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Right on Uwe. Played the EB3 and the Bird through the new 1001 RB at last night's gig and the band LOVED it. They thought it sounded better than the T-Bird (I don't necessarily agree)
I'll get a Gibson EB3 somewhere down the line, if I really can't stand the GAS anymore I'll call Kebo and snag one.